Brilliant comment of the day

[Chris J]

Wait Dabs was I right in your eyes for once? haha

 

[KBisBack!]

Yeah, and on top of that I'm not even sure how Wainwright is relevant to his point. The Cards in that case traded proven MLB players(Drew, Marquis, Marerrro) for a prospect(Wainwright). Who didn't even make his debut until late 2005. It wasn't some big spending move by the Cards. If anything it was a salary dump of sorts so they didn't have to pay Drew after the 2004 season.

And what did they do to replace JD Drew??

Sit back and wait for a prospect to take over in RF or give the RF job to a prospect??

Or did they sign a veteran 36 year old to play RF??

Whoops.

They didn't trade Jason Marquis either. He was allowed to leave via free agency. He was replaced not by a prospect, but by a FA signing in Kip Wells.

Whoops.

And Eli Marrero was a utility guy. A throw in to Atlanta. Not some core player.

 

[mountsalami]

The Cubs will take a shot to get Price, trust me.

Funny how I haven't read this anywhere from a credible source. But since I don't know you, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

I have come to the strongest conclusion that you are one of the few people on Earth that's on a message board......

........That gets their information from either at the Epstein dinner table, via personal invitations, OR your information has been delivered via alein spacecraft.

Either way it's sure nice to know you. I and the rest of the board will have to ride your shirt-tails on what extraterrestrial transmission comes next.

This is AWEESOME !!!!

I guess the reports out of Tampa Bay saying that they are going to do everything they can to sign Price and retain him. Means nothing.

I guess it also means nothing that Tampa has stated that they have the funds available to do so.

Now that I know who your credible sources are. I can quit reading the Tampa news papers online.

Thanks.

 

[Chris J]

Funny how I haven't read this anywhere from a credible source. But since I don't know you, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

I have come to the strongest conclusion that you are one of the few people on Earth that's on a message board......

........That gets their information from either at the Epstein dinner table, via personal invitations, OR your information has been delivered via alein spacecraft.

Either way it's sure nice to know you. I and the rest of the board will have to ride your shirt-tails on what extraterrestrial transmission comes next.

This is AWEESOME !!!!

I guess the reports out of Tampa Bay saying that they are going to do everything they can to sign Price and retain him. Means nothing.

I guess it also means nothing that Tampa has stated that they have the funds available to do so.

Now that I know who your credible sources are. I can quit reading the Tampa news papers online.

Thanks.

1. I guess Buster Olney and Phil Rodgers arent credible sources. Theyve just been doing this their entire lives. But ok
2. Tampa wont be able to keep Price. They already dished money to Longoria. Idk if youve turned on a Rays game, they have no attendance or money. So I can 99% say that Price wont be with the Rays in a few years.
3. Did you not know that im acutally good friends with Theo and help run the show?

 

[mountsalami]

1. I guess Buster Olney and Phil Rodgers arent credible sources. Theyve just been doing this their entire lives. But ok
2. Tampa wont be able to keep Price. They already dished money to Longoria. Idk if youve turned on a Rays game, they have no attendance or money. So I can 99% say that Price wont be with the Rays in a few years.
3. Did you not know that im acutally good friends with Theo and help run the show?

I'm still trying to figure out which part of your reply made sense.

Didn't know Tampa was capable of signing just one superstar. Why would they do that if they are not going to compete anyway without Price. I've read quotes directly from Freidman's lips, not the ones you deem credible.

Why would we want Price, since there's nothing here to compliment him. Theo has stated that he doesn't know how to spend the money wisely.

 

[Chris J]

Ok youre just being stupid.
Of course Friedman isnt gonna come out and say "theres no way we can afford him and we will trade him". you just cant do that. Then the other GMs will have the advantage in talking about a trade.

And yea idk where tampa is gonna get $350 million to spend on two guys. You dont know what youre talking about.

The fact that you dont want one of the best lefties in the game says it all

 

[mountsalami]

And yea i dont have a kidnergaten naptime because im in fucking preschool you dipshit.

Dumb.

 

[nwfisch]

A few inaccruacies and illogical things here:


Chronologically:

Harper was drafted in June of 2010. Werth signed with the Nats 6 months later.

The Nat's improved by 12 wins in 2011 despite Strasburg missing pretty much the entire season.

In 2012 Strasburg comes back, Harper makes the majors, they win 98 games.


Their forecasting was pretty much correct with in two seasons of signing Werth they won almost 100 games. I'd say they were "getting ready to contend" or had a pretty good idea when they signed Werth.

The resident Cardinal fan comes in to save the day.

 

[mountsalami]

Ok youre just being stupid.
Of course Friedman isnt gonna come out and say "theres no way we can afford him and we will trade him". you just cant do that. Then the other GMs will have the advantage in talking about a trade.

And yea idk where tampa is gonna get $350 million to spend on two guys. You dont know what youre talking about.

The fact that you dont want one of the best lefties in the game says it all

I guess I'm stupid. So did Friedman pay Olney and Rodgers to leak the REAL information you have decided to share here? Or are you just being stupider ?

I suppose the next thing you are going to tell me is that Marv Albert's teeth marks are scarred into RuPaul's ass. The same place where you get your information.

 

[waldo7239117]

So, yeah I get more dumb by listening to posters on here. No wonder I rarely post.

Price will available in the off-season, but prolly won't be traded until mid-season of next year. The Cubs will know more on their future roster by then and if it looks good, they will go all in for Price.

I agree with Chris and I'm on his side. Cubs fans are split, half like the rebuilding effort and half don't. you can please them all. So, you guys will never agree.

 

[mountsalami]

The fact that you dont want one of the best lefties in the game says it all

Never said a thing about not wanting Price. Just have no clue why they would have passed up on all other equally reasonable options to this point.

Some they wouldn't have had to give up prospects for.

I guess it makes more sense to give up your talented "top ten" farm hands and have to pay Price at the same time.

 

[mountsalami]

So, yeah I get more dumb by listening to posters on here. No wonder I rarely post.

Price will available in the off-season, but prolly won't be traded until mid-season of next year. The Cubs will know more on their future roster by then and if it looks good, they will go all in for Price.

I agree with Chris and I'm on his side. Cubs fans are split, half like the rebuilding effort and half don't. you can please them all. So, you guys will never agree.

You are dumb. That's why you rarely post. I can see why you are on his side.

 

[waldo7239117]

You are dumb. That's why you rarely post. I can see why you are on his side.

If you say so... I'm on his side right now, too early not to be. If nothing is going good in a couple years, then I won't. I like a lot of his trades and signings. But the Stewart one is a big fail, the Jackson signing isn't look good (but I do like it, especially with no SP on FA for years). Bullpen sucks and that's his worse of getting guys for. Scott Baker one is looking bad as well and not trading Garza before he got injured is bad too.

What signings/trades do you think was bad?

 

[mountsalami]

How many good ones could have possibly been made that equal watching a last place team.

You are watching the same team on the field as I am.

Looks pretty good. Doesn't it ?

 

[waldo7239117]

How many good ones could have possibly been made that equal watching a last place team.

You are watching the same team on the field as I am.

Looks pretty good. Doesn't it ?

Let's see here:
*DeJesus signing
*Travis Wood trade
*Anthongy Rizzo trade
*Possily Demp trade, trading to Texas. (Thanks Demp). Delgado sucks in Triple-A.
*Navarro back-up catcher
*For now, Villanueva signing and Schierholtz signing
*Jorge Soler signing.
*Marlon Byrd for Michalel Bowden. To get anything was nice and Bowden has looked pretty good beside last outing.

(Camp waiver claim, from last year though.)

Can go either way: Haren for Marmol.
Bad: Conception signing

 

[mountsalami]

Let's see here:
*DeJesus signing
*Travis Wood trade
*Anthongy Rizzo trade
*Possily Demp trade, trading to Texas. (Thanks Demp). Delgado sucks in Triple-A.
*Navarro back-up catcher
*For now, Villanueva signing and Schierholtz signing
*Jorge Soler signing.
*Marlon Byrd for Michalel Bowden. To get anything was nice and Bowden has looked pretty good beside last outing.

(Camp waiver claim, from last year though.)

Can go either way: Haren for Marmol.
Bad: Conception signing

Nice list. Looks like we are headed in the right direction. My bad.

Add David Price to this list, minus about four of your "big Time" prospects that we have been tanking seasons to receive, and you have yourself a winner.

 

[dabynsky]

Wait Dabs was I right in your eyes for once? haha

This is ultimately what I think both sides fail to see. There isn't a right or wrong in this circumstance. Managers make the wrong decision, based on all empirical evidence, and it works out for them. Baseball is so different from every sport in the North American landscape it is hard to accurately appreciate it. As much as people want to make it either about completely accepting or rejecting what the current front office has done, neither answer is truely correct. The front office is going to make mistakes like every front office has made. Hopefully they make fewer than others which is how the consisently successful teams have managed to do that. I have a few reasons to believe that will happen, but what they are doing right now could very well fail. So ultimately you are right on some things and others not so much. As are we all.

 

[Flacco4Prez]

This is ultimately what I think both sides fail to see. There isn't a right or wrong in this circumstance. Managers make the wrong decision, based on all empirical evidence, and it works out for them. Baseball is so different from every sport in the North American landscape it is hard to accurately appreciate it. As much as people want to make it either about completely accepting or rejecting what the current front office has done, neither answer is truely correct. The front office is going to make mistakes like every front office has made. Hopefully they make fewer than others which is how the consisently successful teams have managed to do that. I have a few reasons to believe that will happen, but what they are doing right now could very well fail. So ultimately you are right on some things and others not so much. As are we all.

Exactly. Only time will tell on this debate. It's like debating who is going to win the Super Bowl next year? You can't say whose right until the game is over. If Theo succeeds then the haters will look like idiots, and if he fails then the Cubs organization will continue to be an embarrassment and will be set back another 10 years.

 

[FirstTimer]

Marrero was a career .240 hitting back up catcher who's career highlight was catching Bud Smith's no-hitter in 2001. And it wasnt 3 for 1, it was 2 for 2; Drew and Marrero for Marquis and Wainwright.

It wasnt big spending, it was a smart move by the cards. They shipped drew for pitching; as their rotation was Woody Williams (4 ERA), Jeff Fassero (5.68), Brett Tomko (5.4 ERA) traded for Sterling Hitchcock with a >4 ERA at the end of his career, and rookie Dan Haren with a >5 ERA.

I think starting pitching was a need.......Wainwright was a good prospect to match Drew and Marquis to match Marrero. Safe to say Marquis came back with a 3.7 ERA.

Smart

Actually it was 3 for 2. The Cards got Ray King back too.

Ok, who said it wasn't smart? I was simply refuting the idea of lumping Wainwright in with Cardinals FA signings.

 

[FirstTimer]

You are right. I was thinking Strasburg was 2010 and blew his arm out at the end of the season he was drafted.



AFTER signing Werth.

The Nationals were a 93 loss team with their best player out for a year when they signed Werth to a mega deal.

No way they knew they were going to be a contender this quickly when the signed Werth. Sure they HOPED they would be and went out and aggressively added players. Not just sat back and waited for the system to develop more players.

How do you know what they were thinking or knew or didn't know? You just said no way they thought they were contenders and within two years of getting two fast track spects at the top of the draft and having other solid young pieces(Desmond, Zimmermann, clippard, storen ) etc they ascended. You're acting as though the Nats feel ass first into this. They didn't. it was well built and planned. Werth was a guy they felt they could go out and spend on since most of their other core pieces were cheap and team controlled.