Brother's suicide

[Rustysurf83]

If anyone should ever be banned, it is Spartan. What a piece of fucking shit.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

If anyone should ever be banned, it is Spartan. What a piece of fucking shit.

You know nothing, shit for brains. You've rallied behind people who approve of poisoning babies and now you rally with people who attack people with disease and then disrespect the dead. I spit on the likes of you.

 

[Rustysurf83]

You know nothing, shit for brains. You've rallied behind people who approve of poisoning babies and now you rally with people who attack people with disease and then disrespect the dead. I spit on the likes of you.

go **** yourself loser.

 

[Capt. Serious]

You know nothing, shit for brains. You've rallied behind people who approve of poisoning babies and now you rally with people who attack people with disease and then disrespect the dead. I spit on the likes of you.

You truly are an idiot.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

go **** yourself loser.

Big words from a stupid little *****. I've seen 10 year olds come up with better material.

 

[Rustysurf83]

Note to the mods: I am fucking out of here until this fucking sociopath is banned. I am sure there are others that he has caused to stay away from or leave this site.

 

[Warrior Spirit]

You truly are an idiot.

Easy to act tough on the internet. Go away, dolt.

 

[Dogstar]

Have a nice vacation.



Long overdue, I might add...

 

[Urblock]

Thanks you guys.

 

[Parade_Rain]

Even though it has been 3 years, I'm sorry for your loss, Urblock.

 

[nwfisch]

Thanks you guys.

Now...get working on the nuclear powered football

 

[KittiesKorner]

Sorry urblock

 

[brett05]

Lauren Bacall just died as well...is goin on??

For those who are too young..She played opposite Bogart

So she was what...95?

 

[Rush]

My brother did this shit 3 years ago yesterday. Went out as a coward and selfish.

Regardless of whether you feel he was a coward or not, I am sorry for your loss. I don't wish that pain on anybody.

 

[Tjodalv]

Man, some fucking people. :smh:

The sad thing is that if he weren't such a complete ****** he could actually have brought up some points worthy of discussion. I'll preface this with pointing out that I've been on both sides of this situation in that I have suffered from clinical depression accompanied by suicidal thoughts (not serious considerations, but fleeting moments of "what if" or "maybe it would be easier for all involve" or similar brief flashes before reason returned) and have also had friends commit suicide (for reasons both selfish and ostensibly selfless [from their perspective]):

In some cases there is definitely a failure of support structure where friends and family simply fail to recognize the issues or get tired of trying to help someone that has no desire to help themselves. This is not a declamation of blame, but a simple observation of the reality of certain situations. And obviously this is not always the case, and each incident is as complex as any human interaction; but it does occur.

Sometimes there is the perception from the viewpoint of the sufferer that -- correct or not -- all that is required to bring them back from the brink is a specific action by a group or individual. This is also something that virtually everyone I've ever known who has had a loved one commit suicide asks of themselves -- is there something that I could have done differently? It's virtually impossible to answer either way and, in my opinion, is one of the most severe lasting consequences to those that carry on afterwards; the constant doubt.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

If Spartan is ever unbanned for this shit, the mods are pussies.

 

[DaaBears]

This is very sad. You never know entirely what the people around you are going through. I am sorry for the loss Urblock, and you seem like a really good guy. I also appreciate the thoughtful and open comments made by the others in this discussion, except for one person, and that is obvious.

 

[L GUAPO]

My brother did this shit 3 years ago yesterday. Went out as a coward and selfish.

I'm really sorry to hear that. Sometimes their pain is soo great that I guess it outweighs other factors. I feel bad but wish they would get help before impulsive decisions.

 

[L GUAPO]

Easy to act tough on the internet. Go away, dolt.

One less troll for all of us to deal with

 

[WCL]

Man, some fucking people. :smh:

The sad thing is that if he weren't such a complete ****** he could actually have brought up some points worthy of discussion. I'll preface this with pointing out that I've been on both sides of this situation in that I have suffered from clinical depression accompanied by suicidal thoughts (not serious considerations, but fleeting moments of "what if" or "maybe it would be easier for all involve" or similar brief flashes before reason returned) and have also had friends commit suicide (for reasons both selfish and ostensibly selfless [from their perspective]):

In some cases there is definitely a failure of support structure where friends and family simply fail to recognize the issues or get tired of trying to help someone that has no desire to help themselves. This is not a declamation of blame, but a simple observation of the reality of certain situations. And obviously this is not always the case, and each incident is as complex as any human interaction; but it does occur.

Sometimes there is the perception from the viewpoint of the sufferer that -- correct or not -- all that is required to bring them back from the brink is a specific action by a group or individual. This is also something that virtually everyone I've ever known who has had a loved one commit suicide asks of themselves -- is there something that I could have done differently? It's virtually impossible to answer either way and, in my opinion, is one of the most severe lasting consequences to those that carry on afterwards; the constant doubt.

I suffered from depression for over a decade, and it's the worst thing I've ever been through. Along with all of the obvious stuff, there's actual physical pain involved, and it can also screw up your sleep to the point that your mind starts to go. That's what happened with me.

At my worst, I woke up every day thinking about killing myself and then thought about it all day (sometimes, I was up for several days in a row thinking about it). That would go on for months. I couldn't get the thought out of my head. I'd try listening to music, watching movies, etc. Nothing worked.

You can't really describe how persistent it is. With me, it lead to anxiety, and I eventually started becoming short of breath and having panic attacks. That's when I got help. Luckily, I had a couple of people who were there to help. I've been fine for about six years, now. I don't take any medication or see a therapist or anything like that. I just got through it.

But when someone actually goes through with suicide, that means that they've probably battled it off more times than you can imagine. Those people are fighters, and they fought that shit and won a bunch. They just lost one time, and that's all it takes.

I can't imagine a person's mind being more messed up than mine was at my worst. But then I read about someone killing themselves and I realize that they were way worse off than I ever was, because they actually went through with it.

So, I don't judge those people. I have no idea what was going on in their mind when they did what they did, and I don't know if I could have handled it any better. I'd rather acknowledge the bravery it took for them to last as long as they did. That's all you can do. Holding a grudge isn't going to bring them back or help the survivors.