Bulls-vs-Heat Game 3 Discussion

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I said the two best players, which is generally considered to be Rose and Noah by virtually everyone. And despite the fouls Noah was on the floor for 29 minutes, he wasn't very good while he was out there. Regardless of whether you think the refs were harsh on him early he compounded it himself with a stupid over the back foul on a rebound Gibson probably would have gotten anyway (costing the team a bucket in the process).

Not sure if Noah deserves to be considered one of our best players but that's just me. I don't people would consider Rose and Boozer maybe but not Noah. Honestly Noah seemed like he was just trying to play D but kept getting called for everything
 

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I haven't seen the Bulls use fouls as an excuse...I see you doing it...we should just admit that Miami won the game legit and come back next game and hope for something different to happen.

Fouls aren't an excuse. Fouls aren't helping either. Clearly we need to freaking shoot better and play better defense next game. Heat shot 51% and we shot 41% or something like that. Clearly we're not going to win, especially when the Heat players get free and one's whenever they get slightly touched. Granted there's a few more shots that we would've made/wouldn't have been counted if we had been given the foul, but our offense simply isn't cutting it.
 

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So why is it that our starters have more fouls against them? Miami doesn't get penalized when the clock is delayed or they have 6 men on the floor? Houh to pretned like the refs have nothing to do with some of the Heat's succees is just ignorant I agree that the Heat are scoring better and we aren't but some calls are just bad like Noah getting called for a foul 5 seconds into the game or Haslem still moving while a charge is called

Why do the starters have more fouls called against them?????????

Because Lebron and Wade are on the floor! That is how they win games! Don't blame the refs for that...blame the Bulls for not playing better and the Heat for playing well. Its what I figured would happen when I said Heat in 6. If that is the case, the Bulls were helped by the refs in game 1...I don't see many saying that though...

It goes both ways people...and please somebody put the basketball Special person Dick2Keva back in his cage for crying out loud...
 

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What I don't understand about Miami's trap, is that Atlanta did the same to Derrick Rose, and Rose backed out and gave someone a layup/dunk.
 

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I haven't seen the Bulls use fouls as an excuse...I see you doing it...we should just admit that Miami won the game legit and come back next game and hope for something different to happen.

Oh so now the players are allowed to complain about the refs without getting fined or suspended because Im pretty sure a lot of players would speak out if they were. Ill admit Miami had a great game period though.
 

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You don't see me doing it, because I'm not. Learn to read.

It is one factor amongst many on why it is a 2-1 series.

Special person.

Its not a factor idiot! The better team is winning...give me a damn break...
 

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Why do the starters have more fouls called against them?????????

Because Lebron and Wade are on the floor! That is how they win games! Don't blame the refs for that...blame the Bulls for not playing better and the Heat for playing well. Its what I figured would happen when I said Heat in 6. If that is the case, the Bulls were helped by the refs in game 1...I don't see many saying that though...

It goes both ways people...and please somebody put the basketball Special person Dick2Keva back in his cage for crying out loud...

How come you aren't commenting on all of the comments that are discussing other reasons, aside from fouls, on why the Heat are up 2-1?
 

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What I don't understand about Miami's trap, is that Atlanta did the same to Derrick Rose, and Rose backed out and gave someone a layup/dunk.
Simple answer, they became scared of Miami.
 

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Its not a factor idiot! The better team is winning...give me a damn break...

If you can't even acknowledge it as a factor, AMONGST MANY, then how is anyone supposed to take you seriously?
 

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How come you aren't commenting on all of the comments that are discussing other reasons, aside from fouls, on why the Heat are up 2-1?
That's what he does. He picks an argument that no one really can win, while ignoring points other people make and calling people names in the process.

That's his shtick.
 

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Why do the starters have more fouls called against them?????????

Because Lebron and Wade are on the floor! That is how they win games! Don't blame the refs for that...blame the Bulls for not playing better and the Heat for playing well. Its what I figured would happen when I said Heat in 6. If that is the case, the Bulls were helped by the refs in game 1...I don't see many saying that though...

It goes both ways people...and please somebody put the basketball Special person Dick2Keva back in his cage for crying out loud...

So because Wade and James are playing all our starters get called for more fouls? Now I can see this if they were driving more to the rim but they really aren't. Go look at both teams FT and see who had more in the all 3 games also calling someone names is ridiculous and makes you look bad
 

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That's what he does. He picks an argument that no one really can win, while ignoring points other people make and calling people names in the process.

That's his shtick.

I gotcha.. I will now ignore.
 

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Why do the starters have more fouls called against them?????????

Because Lebron and Wade are on the floor! That is how they win games! Don't blame the refs for that...blame the Bulls for not playing better and the Heat for playing well. Its what I figured would happen when I said Heat in 6. If that is the case, the Bulls were helped by the refs in game 1...I don't see many saying that though...

It goes both ways people...and please somebody put the basketball Special person Dick2Keva back in his cage for crying out loud...

They win games because Lebron and Wade are given and one's whenever they drive. They get touched, but "they're so strong" and can finish through it to get the and one right? I play basketball, and believe me, you call foul when someone puts a hand on your hip or touches your shoulder and people are not going to give you that foul. The refs on the other hand, always give that to Lebron and Wade. They used to give it to Rose too, but that isn't the case anymore. It's pretty clear that it's one way as of right now. I hope it changes and I acknowledge that the Bulls also cannot play offense right now, but maybe they'd play better defense if they didn't have a subconscious fear of having a foul called on them every time they help out on D or go for a tap offensively.
 

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Fouls aren't an excuse. Fouls aren't helping either. Clearly we need to freaking shoot better and play better defense next game. Heat shot 51% and we shot 41% or something like that. Clearly we're not going to win, especially when the Heat players get free and one's whenever they get slightly touched. Granted there's a few more shots that we would've made/wouldn't have been counted if we had been given the foul, but our offense simply isn't cutting it.

Maybe the Bulls win Game 2 if they hit their free throws also...can't blame the refs for that...the Bulls got the calls...they missed 10 free throws. That is the kind of stuff I look at, not how the referees cheated the Bulls...that ain't really happening...
 

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They win games because Lebron and Wade are given and one's whenever they drive. They get touched, but "they're so strong" and can finish through it to get the and one right? I play basketball, and believe me, you call foul when someone puts a hand on your hip or touches your shoulder and people are not going to give you that foul. The refs on the other hand, always give that to Lebron and Wade. They used to give it to Rose too, but that isn't the case anymore. It's pretty clear that it's one way as of right now. I hope it changes and I acknowledge that the Bulls also cannot play offense right now, but maybe they'd play better defense if they didn't have a subconscious fear of having a foul called on them every time they help out on D or go for a tap offensively.

Houh really doesn't have an argument, I'm willing to admit that the Heat are playing light years away from us offensively but he refuse to admit fouls have anything to do with the games. I better leave him alone otherwise he might start calling me names like Glide
 

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Must be nice to have the refs on your side every game no matter what. Screw the Heat. If we lose this series I want the big 2.5 knocked on their butts. Every. Single. Time.

Blaming the refs now? The better team is winning.

Stop crying like a fucking woman.
 

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Maybe the Bulls win Game 2 if they hit their free throws also...can't blame the refs for that...the Bulls got the calls...they missed 10 free throws. That is the kind of stuff I look at, not how the referees cheated the Bulls...that ain't really happening...

Bulls did miss a lot of FT that game but it's weird that the calls in Chicago were even while once we are in Miami they are loopsided but like you said no way that can be a reason
 

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