Bulls-vs-Heat Game 3 Discussion

[Glide2keva]

So I suppose Lebron and Wade's presence allows them to have 6 players on the court with no technical called? I suppose this allows for more time to clean up blood on Wade's elbow? I never recall the 90s Bulls getting that kind of treatment. Granted I was still young and my memory may fail me, so I will defer to your all knowing wisdom of basketball on this one.

Trust me, they didn't. This is coming from someone who was at every home game for 3 season during the Jordan years and this was Championship time.

 

[clonetrooper264]

So Im assuming they are good playoff calls again now that the Bulls are losing like they were against the Pacers? To answer your question it's a combination of bad calls and poor offense that is hurting us

Exactly, it's BOTH.

 

[PrideisBears]

It's pretty simple now. Win game 4, or the season's over.

Pretty much. We need more offensive plays out there. I think that Korver might be coming out of his slump but he does need to shoot off the screen like he was doing earlier (I don't know if Thibbs stopped calling that or he just is trying)

 

[Steveo16220]

Maybe the Bulls win Game 2 if they hit their free throws also...can't blame the refs for that...the Bulls got the calls...they missed 10 free throws. That is the kind of stuff I look at, not how the referees cheated the Bulls...that ain't really happening...

True

 

[Glide2keva]

But hey you know, Hou is right and he's pleased as punch.

He's happy for lebron.

 

[Jysen]

All I can say is; DAMN IT!!!

 

[bleacherbum54]

Where did I ever state anything about the reffing costing us the game? I just stated it was fucking terrible.

Let's read guys.

MY only point is the refs are always bad and is a tough job to be completely good and constant . I mean you could complain on nearly every call if you want to. Dealing with a refs calls is part of the game just like in the NFL week 1 when everyone thought the Lions won it is part of the game. Of course they are gonna be biased toward star players like LBJ and Dwade that has been in the NBA for years.

 

[Crystallas]

But hey you know, Hou is right and he's pleased as punch.

He's happy for lebron.

opcorn:

+12 pages to this thread.

 

[Gunzaan]

You don't have to take me seriously...I think its lame to blame referees or even consider them a factor in whether these games are won or lost. Over the first 3 games the team that played the best wins...simple as that.

My thing is...who on here said this stuff after game 1? Did you?

I'm not taking you seriously, so I am not going to respond to you.

Go bait someone else.

 

[houheffna]

So I suppose Lebron and Wade's presence allows them to have 6 players on the court with no technical called? I suppose this allows for more time to clean up blood on Wade's elbow? I never recall the 90s Bulls getting that kind of treatment. Granted I was still young and my memory may fail me, so I will defer to your all knowing wisdom of basketball on this one.

Well, your memory is failing you, because I have seen the Bulls and other teams get away with a lot in the past. Jordan included...but NEVER did I think the Bulls won a playoff series because of the refereeing...never. Nor did I consider it a factor in their winning. The Bulls in the 1990's were the better team and outplayed their opponents on most nights. That is why they won games.

In the NBA, 9 out of 10 times, the better team wins in the playoffs...just the way it is.

 

[Rush]

MY only point is the refs are always bad and is a tough job to be completely good and constant . I mean you could complain on nearly every call if you want to. Dealing with a refs calls is part of the game just like in the NFL week 1 when everyone thought the Lions won it is part of the game. Of course they are gonna be biased toward star players like LBJ and Dwade that has been in the NBA for years.

Terrible officiating.

No justification. It's their job, they should do the shit right.

 

[PrideisBears]

MY only point is the refs are always bad and is a tough job to be completely good and constant . I mean you could complain on nearly every call if you want to. Dealing with a refs calls is part of the game just like in the NFL week 1 when everyone thought the Lions won it is part of the game. Of course they are gonna be biased toward star players like LBJ and Dwade that has been in the NBA for years.

You can't be awful 3 games in a row though, kind of hard to do that. It was even worse this game though if you look at the FT's they were completely lopsided unlike both Chicago games. Anyways the Bulls have problems offensively but the refs aren't helping anything at all

 

[clonetrooper264]

No, the refs didn't cost the Bulls the game...and I don't think anyone who thinks it did knows what they are talking about...period.

Hou, more often than not I agree with you. But to say that the refs didn't affect how the Bulls played their game is simply ignoring what is happening. Bulls are playing poorly offensively, but the reason is the way the game is being called. Naturally we can't win when we're letting the Heat shoot 50% either, but the touch foul and one's being called are just giving them points. The Heat win based on two things, first transition play. No one can stop them when they're in the open court. This is why Korver should just stop trying to take a charge in transition. He'll NEVER get the call, be it whether he wasn't set (which he probably wasn't since it's Korver) or because the Heat player will get the benefit of the doubt. This leads to the second reason why the Heat win: free throws. Wade, James, and Bosh probably shoot a combined 86% from the free throw line and they all get a high number of attempts per game. The high number is coming from all the benefit of the doubt calls they get. You say it goes both ways and that Jordan got the treatment. Well, I doubt this is some kind of payback from games 20 years ago. We are not getting those calls on the other end of the floor.

 

[Glide2keva]

opcorn:

+12 pages to this thread.

I give it 13, but since I'm ignoring him. I don't care what he says.

 

[Gunzaan]

MY only point is the refs are always bad and is a tough job to be completely good and constant . I mean you could complain on nearly every call if you want to. Dealing with a refs calls is part of the game just like in the NFL week 1 when everyone thought the Lions won it is part of the game. Of course they are gonna be biased toward star players like LBJ and Dwade that has been in the NBA for years.

The fact that you are complacent about the fact that the refs are sub-par is sad, not you personally, but the fact that the average fan just accepts it as part of the sport. That is very, very sad.

 

[NealKleren]

Today we were outplayed. Did the refs suck? Yes. But our defense wasn't that great and we couldnt get anything going on offense. We just need to be able to move the ball well and we'll be fine. Hopefully we get our stuff together next game and if we lose then it'll be over.

 

[houheffna]

I'm not taking you seriously, so I am not going to respond to you.

Go bait someone else.

I guess the truth hurts...get over it because it ain't going anywhere...

 

[bleacherbum54]

So Im assuming they are good playoff calls again now that the Bulls are losing like they were against the Pacers? To answer your question it's a combination of bad calls and poor offense that is hurting us

losing to the Pacers? You guys damm near swept us. It is part of the game dealing with the refs in the Pacers series they let us play and so we played. Most Pacer fans agreed that the series was very poorly officiated both ways. BTW I picked Chicago to win the title pre playoffs im rooting for Chicago to win it isnt about you guys losing. Most of my family is Bulls fans so i root for them as long as they aren't playing the Pacers.

 

[Glide2keva]

Hou, more often than not I agree with you. But to say that the refs didn't affect how the Bulls played their game is simply ignoring what is happening. Bulls are playing poorly offensively, but the reason is the way the game is being called. Naturally we can't win when we're letting the Heat shoot 50% either, but the touch foul and one's being called are just giving them points. The Heat win based on two things, first transition play. No one can stop them when they're in the open court. This is why Korver should just stop trying to take a charge in transition. He'll NEVER get the call, be it whether he wasn't set (which he probably wasn't since it's Korver) or because the Heat player will get the benefit of the doubt. This leads to the second reason why the Heat win: free throws. Wade, James, and Bosh probably shoot a combined 86% from the free throw line and they all get a high number of attempts per game. The high number is coming from all the benefit of the doubt calls they get. You say it goes both ways and that Jordan got the treatment. Well, I doubt this is some kind of payback from games 20 years ago. We are not getting those calls on the other end of the floor.

Dude hou is right. Leave it alone.

 

[PrideisBears]

Today we were outplayed. Did the refs suck? Yes. But our defense wasn't that great and we couldnt get anything going on offense. We just need to be able to move the ball well and we'll be fine. Hopefully we get our stuff together next game and if we lose then it'll be over.

Meh I thought our D was good but we obviously couldn't stop Bosh's Jumpshots, he was just hot