Bulls-vs-Heat Game 3 Discussion

[houheffna]

They win games because Lebron and Wade are given and one's whenever they drive. They get touched, but "they're so strong" and can finish through it to get the and one right? I play basketball, and believe me, you call foul when someone puts a hand on your hip or touches your shoulder and people are not going to give you that foul. The refs on the other hand, always give that to Lebron and Wade. They used to give it to Rose too, but that isn't the case anymore. It's pretty clear that it's one way as of right now. I hope it changes and I acknowledge that the Bulls also cannot play offense right now, but maybe they'd play better defense if they didn't have a subconscious fear of having a foul called on them every time they help out on D or go for a tap offensively.

You are exaggerating quite a bit. Stars get calls...I sat and watched Jordan get the benefit of the doubt for 15 years, so that's nothing new. Plus the Bulls have been to the line more than the Heat have if I am not mistaken...

 

[clonetrooper264]

Maybe the Bulls win Game 2 if they hit their free throws also...can't blame the refs for that...the Bulls got the calls...they missed 10 free throws. That is the kind of stuff I look at, not how the referees cheated the Bulls...that ain't really happening...

Which is why I said that I acknowledge the Bulls' offensive woes as well. I'm not blind. I watch the games. That's your thing, you always watch the games. I see the Bulls playing like crap offensively, but I can also see why. They can't drive effectively because they will get mugged at least half the time. Rose's game is predicated on the drive. I honestly think the Bulls got scared from driving because they knew they would probably get hacked, but no call. Now this does not excuse them from things like missed open shots or missed free throws (a la game 2), but the refs are affecting how they play. They have to play better offensively in the sense that they have to make more shots, yes, but their instinct is to get layups and other kinds of easy shots and they are getting no called out of doing that.

 

[Glide2keva]

Houh really doesn't have an argument, I'm willing to admit that the Heat are playing light years away from us offensively but he refuse to admit fouls have anything to do with the games. I better leave him alone otherwise he might start calling me names like Glide

I learned my lesson dealing with him. He stays on my ignore list. He's been on it so long he might start getting mail there.

Funny thing is, you do the same thing to him, he acts like you offended his dead ancestors.

 

[PrideisBears]

Blaming the refs now? The better team is winning.

Stop crying like a fucking woman.

Hey Joehawks you didn't randomly show up last time we lost so assumed that something was wrong, glad to have you back

 

[clonetrooper264]

Blaming the refs now? The better team is winning.

Stop crying like a fucking woman.

Troll. I know the Heat are playing better, but the refs are helping keep the Bulls at bay with fouls. It's a freaking combination that's what I'm trying to get at.

 

[PrideisBears]

Which is why I said that I acknowledge the Bulls' offensive woes as well. I'm not blind. I watch the games. That's your thing, you always watch the games. I see the Bulls playing like crap offensively, but I can also see why. They can't drive effectively because they will get mugged at least half the time. Rose's game is predicated on the drive. I honestly think the Bulls got scared from driving because they knew they would probably get hacked, but no call. Now this does not excuse them from things like missed open shots or missed free throws (a la game 2), but the refs are affecting how they play. They have to play better offensively in the sense that they have to make more shots, yes, but their instinct is to get layups and other kinds of easy shots and they are getting no called out of doing that.

Bingo. Also I don't think the Bulls have been to the line more this series either, Il look it up

 

[Rush]

If you can't recognize the awful officiating, you know nothing about basketball.

Sorry guys.

 

[houheffna]

If you can't even acknowledge it as a factor, AMONGST MANY, then how is anyone supposed to take you seriously?

You don't have to take me seriously...I think its lame to blame referees or even consider them a factor in whether these games are won or lost. Over the first 3 games the team that played the best wins...simple as that.

My thing is...who on here said this stuff after game 1? Did you?

 

[PrideisBears]

If you can't recognize the awful officiating, you know nothing about basketball.

Sorry guys.

Well Rush apparently you have no clue, sorry man. It was just the Heat being better, nothing to do with horrible calls.

 

[Glide2keva]

Which is why I said that I acknowledge the Bulls' offensive woes as well. I'm not blind. I watch the games. That's your thing, you always watch the games. I see the Bulls playing like crap offensively, but I can also see why. They can't drive effectively because they will get mugged at least half the time. Rose's game is predicated on the drive. I honestly think the Bulls got scared from driving because they knew they would probably get hacked, but no call. Now this does not excuse them from things like missed open shots or missed free throws (a la game 2), but the refs are affecting how they play. They have to play better offensively in the sense that they have to make more shots, yes, but their instinct is to get layups and other kinds of easy shots and they are getting no called out of doing that.

They can't keep missing layups and free throws. They need to stop this every time they make a run they get a foul shit too. It's hard to watch. We get a close game going and then the bullshit starts (and by close game, I mean score tied 0-0)

 

[PrideisBears]

You don't have to take me seriously...I think its lame to blame referees or even consider them a factor in whether these games are won or lost. Over the first 3 games the team that played the best wins...simple as that.

My thing is...who on here said this stuff after game 1? Did you?

I did. Didn't like the calls then either especially the 6 men on the court call

 

[Glide2keva]

If you can't recognize the awful officiating, you know nothing about basketball.

Sorry guys.

Well, that can't be true because certain posters know everything.

 

[bleacherbum54]

If you can't recognize the awful officiating, you know nothing about basketball.

Sorry guys.

But did the refs cost u guys the game? NBA reffing is a tough job and reffing guys like Drose and LBJ is a tough job. Blown calls happen every game and is part of the sport it sucks but that's part of the game. NBA reffing is always pretty bad.

 

[nwfisch]

If you can't recognize the awful officiating, you know nothing about basketball.

Sorry guys.

You can recognize it, but we all know how shaky (to say the least) NBA officiating is. I don't see how you can completely blame the officials when you lose by 10+ both times.

Bulls have the upper hand in the series going every other day now, but they still have to show up and play.

 

[Glide2keva]

But did the refs cost u guys the game? NBA reffing is a tough job and reffing guys like Drose and LBJ is a tough job. Blown calls happen every game and is part of the sport it sucks but that's part of the game.

You mean like calling a foul on Noah 5 seconds into the game? Calling Deng out of bounds on the steal when he was clearly inbounds?

Yeah they do happen.

 

[Rush]

Where did I ever state anything about the reffing costing us the game? I just stated it was fucking terrible.

Let's read guys.

 

[X]

It's pretty simple now. Win game 4, or the season's over.

 

[PrideisBears]

But did the refs cost u guys the game? NBA reffing is a tough job and reffing guys like Drose and LBJ is a tough job. Blown calls happen every game and is part of the sport it sucks but that's part of the game.

So Im assuming they are good playoff calls again now that the Bulls are losing like they were against the Pacers? To answer your question it's a combination of bad calls and poor offense that is hurting us

 

[clonetrooper264]

You are exaggerating quite a bit. Stars get calls...I sat and watched Jordan get the benefit of the doubt for 15 years, so that's nothing new. Plus the Bulls have been to the line more than the Heat have if I am not mistaken...

So I suppose Lebron and Wade's presence allows them to have 6 players on the court with no technical called? I suppose this allows for more time to clean up blood on Wade's elbow? I never recall the 90s Bulls getting that kind of treatment. Granted I was still young and my memory may fail me, so I will defer to your all knowing wisdom of basketball on this one.

 

[houheffna]

But did the refs cost u guys the game? NBA reffing is a tough job and reffing guys like Drose and LBJ is a tough job. Blown calls happen every game and is part of the sport it sucks but that's part of the game.

No, the refs didn't cost the Bulls the game...and I don't think anyone who thinks it did knows what they are talking about...period.