Chiefs Trading Tyreek Hill to Dolphins

[EDPeezy]

Not as odd as your answer........ as I said on IR another season .....yes the "dude" retired because of a knee injury...still a SB winner....and ur comment has nothing to with my point. I guess Belichick must be an idiot to have had him on the team. To Lol at a player who had to retire because of a knee injury....well.... I guess that's expected from a dude. Dude it up, bro.....later dude....

McClellan sucked in New England too.

It’s funny how you think because he signed with the pats that means something. Even New England takes flyers on busts from other teams. He didnt do shit in New England and was out of football not soon after.

He started 4 games in New England. And that was because the starter got hurt. He was a backup.

 

[UChiLAbear]

boring troll job man.

Saying he's a SB winner has what exactly to do with the fact he was a terrible 1st round pick? There's a bunch of other scrubs that won the SB amigo. Oh, and did Belichick give a 1st round pick to get him? No....right? Make sense?

Either you're not capable of basic logic or you're trolling.

LAY........laughing AT you.....whatever you say....

 

[Canth]

If you have a franchise QB then you trade that WR for picks and you draft other WRs. Hence why KC dumped him. If Mahomes is a great QB then he doesn't need Hill. This makes sense for Miami because they have loads of draft capital but even so I would never pay a WR 30m a year period. WR has been one of the deepest positions the last few years and with more and more spread concepts in the NFL, the transition to the NFL for WRs has gotten easier IMO.

The other concern I would have with Hill is: Will he stay as motivated after the big payday? He already has a ring and reputation. So, would he approach with the same mindset in a new location with a lot of distraction like Miami?

 

[bufordht]

I’m not saying he cant. But it’s a No brainer that the more weapons and protection he has, the better his chances will be to progress.

Also, if he struggles again next year with avg talent around him, how are the coaches and front office going to know whether its fields fault and he may not be the guy, or is it the talent around him or lack there of.

Surrounding Fields with talent does two important things:

1) increases his chances of reaching his max potential as quickly as possible. The biggest advantage for any team is having a stud QB on a rookie contract

2) helps speed up and increase the accuracy of his evaluation.

When is the last time we had a QB like fields with such a high ceiling? I’m 39 and I can honestly say never. Why not do everything you possibly can to increase his chances of reaching his max potential as quickly as possible? He plays the most important position in all of sports and already a year has been wasted with Nagy’s shit offense.

You didn't address my point at all. You just said the same things you've been saying.

Like I said before, having more talent around him will allow him to put up better numbers but that doesn't necessarily mean he is progressing. I think you are confusing stats with development. I'll ask again, does having a number one wide receiver help him learn to read a defense?

 

[Toast88]

You didn't address my point at all. You just said the same things you've been saying.

Like I said before, having more talent around him will allow him to put up better numbers but that doesn't necessarily mean he is progressing. I think you are confusing stats with development. I'll ask again, does having a number one wide receiver help him learn to read a defense?

No. Does having a quarterback who can read a defense help a receiver get open and catch the ball?

 

[bufordht]

No. Does having a quarterback who can read a defense help a receiver get open and catch the ball?

No...

Are we just asking random questions now or did you have some kind of point?

 

[Toast88]

No...

Are we just asking random questions now or did you have some kind of point?

It takes two. A good receiver can help a quarterback's growth, and a good quarterback can help a receiver's growth, even if each is ultimately responsible for his own success or failure.

 

[remydat]

Hill is an idiot. That roster was stacked for another super bowl run, have fun in Miami being a perpetual 8-9 team., while KC is probably trading for DK and another SB appearance.

30m a year says otherwise. This is a job for them not a game. Most are in it to get paid and he already won a Super Bowl.

 

[bufordht]

It takes two. A good receiver can help a quarterback's growth, and a good quarterback can help a receiver's growth, even if each is ultimately responsible for his own success or failure.

How does a good receiver help a QB grow?

 

[Bear_Assed]

You didn't address my point at all. You just said the same things you've been saying.

Like I said before, having more talent around him will allow him to put up better numbers but that doesn't necessarily mean he is progressing. I think you are confusing stats with development. I'll ask again, does having a number one wide receiver help him learn to read a defense?

A few things here:

Most of the time, when people number their points, #1 is their main point. Just an fyi

Ryan poles himself has talked about the importance of a true #1 receiver at this years combine:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498708356021825545

Lastly, look at all of the playoff teams this year, including one in the super bowl who had a QB in his second year. How many of those teams had a top 10 receiver? Almost every single one of them. Lol

Your main point is wrong. Recent history is proof and Poles said so at the combine. Sorry bud

 

[remydat]

A few things here:

Most of the time, when people number their points, #1 is their main point. Just an fyi

Ryan poles himself has talked about the importance of a true #1 receiver at this years combine:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498708356021825545

Lastly, look at all of the playoff teams this year, including one in the super bowl who had a QB in his second year. How many of those teams had a top 10 receiver? Almost every single one of them. Lol

Your main point is wrong. Recent history is proof and Poles said so at the combine. Sorry bud

1. It is entirely possible Poles wants to take this year to see if Mooney can be a true No 1.

2. Poles did not claim a true No 1 has to be acquired immediately.

3. We are not on a SB trajectory so we don't need a true No 1 right now. We likely need a true No 1 before we take the SB leap.

 

[Bear_Assed]

1. It is entirely possible Poles wants to take this year to see if Mooney can be a true No 1.

2. Poles did not claim a true No 1 has to be acquired immediately.

3. We are not on a SB trajectory so we don't need a true No 1 right now. We likely need a true No 1 before we take the SB leap.

If Mooney is not a number 1 which most people feel is the case, then thats really going to hurt fields development. Which is too bad because he’s the most important player this team has likely had in decades. Just a reminder, QB is the most important position in all of sports. Most teams know you have to surround your young QBs with legit playmakers to maximize their potential.

If poles doesn’t think bears are ready to compete why did he guarantee $26 mil to a DT?

 

[Spitta Andretti]

A few things here:

Most of the time, when people number their points, #1 is their main point. Just an fyi

Ryan poles himself has talked about the importance of a true #1 receiver at this years combine:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498708356021825545

Lastly, look at all of the playoff teams this year, including one in the super bowl who had a QB in his second year. How many of those teams had a top 10 receiver? Almost every single one of them. Lol

Your main point is wrong. Recent history is proof and Poles said so at the combine. Sorry bud

now name the #1 WR that was a free agent. yall keep ignoring that.

youre bringing up the #1 WR term and are bitching about losing out on JuJu Smith Schuster, DJ Chark and Russell Gage?
difference maker is in the draft. rookie or not, wasnt happening in free agency

 

[Toast88]

How does a good receiver help a QB grow?

Hard to go through the progression to find an open receiver if there is no open receiver.

Hard to work on your Red Zone offense if you're never in the Red Zone.

Hard to develop a rapport with your receivers if they don't catch the ball.

Et cetera.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

If Mooney is not a number 1 which most people feel is the case, then thats really going to hurt fields development. Which is too bad because he’s the most important player this team has likely had in decades. Just a reminder, QB is the most important position in all of sports. Most teams know you have to surround your young QBs with legit playmakers to maximize their potential.

If poles doesn’t think bears are ready to compete why did he guarantee $26 mil to a DT?

I know you haven't watched this entire offseason and had your main takeaway be that poles thinks this team is ready to compete because of the contract he gave ogunjobi..

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

30m a year says otherwise. This is a job for them not a game. Most are in it to get paid and he already won a Super Bowl.

Tom Brady disagrees. Aaron Rodgers does not, connect the dots.

 

[Bear_Assed]

now name the #1 WR that was a free agent. yall keep ignoring that.

youre bringing up the #1 WR term and are bitching about losing out on JuJu Smith Schuster, DJ Chark and Russell Gage?
difference maker is in the draft. rookie or not, wasnt happening in free agency

Every single receiver you listed as well as MVS is better than who we’ve signed.

Not to mention KC and GB now need receivers. Guess which two teams have two picks each before bears get to their pick. And that’s just two teams!

 

[Bear_Assed]

I know you haven't watched this entire offseason and had your main takeaway be that poles thinks this team is ready to compete because of the contract he gave ogunjobi..

I’m just saying, don’t tell me “poles is not spending big $ because the team isn’t ready to compete” when he guaranteed $26 mil to a DT. It’s one or the other. Not both.

I don’t think the bears are ready to compete and I also think guaranteeing $26 mil to a DT is stupid when the most important thing for next year is the evaluation and progression of Fields. Not anything related to the defense.

 

[Bear_Assed]

How does a good receiver help a QB grow?

Ask Poles:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498708356021825545

Some of you are sticking up for Poles and his moves or lack there of, when poles himself is making you look stupid with your feeble attempts. It’s hilarious and I’m enjoying every min of it ?

 

[Spitta Andretti]

Every single receiver you listed as well as MVS is better than who we’ve signed.

Not to mention KC and GB now need receivers. Guess which two teams have two picks each before bears get to their pick. And that’s just two teams!

You still ignored my point. Neither one of those is a #1 WR or a "difference maker"

And both those teams lost multiple WRs, not just their #1