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Let me be clear I'm not saying any of the guys at ASU would make a great NFL coach or that they should be considered for NFL jobs, I'm saying the Bears should be able to accomplish what ASU did by hiring the right guy here just as easily. A good organization knows where the best coaching talent is and how to hire them. It shouldn't be so hard to find a good coach AT ANY LEVEL of football because football is football.

The caveat being I don't know if the college coaches have the chops of the complexity of the NFL.

But you should just as easily be able to identify coaching talent at all levels of football if that makes sense.
The conflict in your statement was not that any ASU coach would be a great NFL coach. The conflict in your statement was that you had made two statements in direct opposition to each other. You stated that you wanted a smart hire that isn't a media-driven storyline about a one-year turnaround, and then you talk up a one year turnaround for a college team that doesn't exactly face top competition.

But the conclusion of your statement also does not make sense. It is not easy to identify coaching talent because football is football. I used an AI to compile this data, so please bare with me and feel free to point out any data point it missed. I am stereotypically a luddite, and so I only use AI for data compilation, and this felt like a good use. My request criteria was to compile all coaching hires since 2000, and to list every coach that lasted at least 6 years in the league, appeared in at least one conference championship game, and have an overall winning record as an HC (feel free to object to this criteria, but it felt like something anyone would accept as a minimum for the next HC).

AI gave me the following results: Bill Belichick, Andy Ried, Mike Tomlin, John Harbaugh, Sean Payton, Pete Carroll, Mike McCarthy, Bruce Arians, John Fox, Sean McVay, Mike Holmgren, Gary Kubiak and Mike Vrabel out of 175+ HC hires. Jim Harbaugh fits this criteria after next season. If he can get a big enough winning season together next year, Zac Taylor joins this bunch. There just arent a lot of guys out there that sustain success to identify, and most of these guys were HCs for multiple teams. If it shouldnt be so hard to find a good coach at the NFL level, and a good organization knew where the best talent was, then this list would be longer and the coaches would have stuck with one team. I really don't think your point holds water (cue My Cousin Vinny, the greatest courtroom movie of all time).

I put this criteria together not knowing that Vrabel fit the criteria, because I thought he was only HC for 5 years. My mistake, but I wanted the criteria to extend beyond what Vrabel had accomplished in Tennessee.
 
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They did already. Leftwich and pep Hamilton. A complete mockery of the rule but they got it out of the way yesterday. They can hire Vrabel today.
Oh ok. If he were offered and accepted that quick then Bears were never an option so a moot point. When you have options like him you dont take the first offer unless it was already your top choice.
 

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Oh ok. If he were offered and accepted that quick then Bears were never an option so a moot point. When you have options like him you dont take the first offer unless it was already your top choice.

it’s a good bet that New England is his top choice.
 

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The conflict in your statement was not that any ASU coach would be a great NFL coach. The conflict in your statement was that you had made two statements in direct opposition to each other. You stated that you wanted a smart hire that isn't a media-driven storyline about a one-year turnaround, and then you talk up a one year turnaround for a college team that doesn't exactly face top competition.

But the conclusion of your statement also does not make sense. It is not easy to identify coaching talent because football is football. I used an AI to compile this data, so please bare with me and feel free to point out any data point it missed. I am stereotypically a luddite, and so I only use AI for data compilation, and this felt like a good use. My request criteria was to compile all coaching hires since 2000, and to list every coach that lasted at least 6 years in the league, appeared in at least one conference championship game, and have an overall winning record as an HC (feel free to object to this criteria, but it felt like something anyone would accept as a minimum for the next HC).

AI gave me the following results: Bill Belichick, Andy Ried, Mike Tomlin, John Harbaugh, Sean Payton, Pete Carroll, Mike McCarthy, Bruce Arians, John Fox, Sean McVay, Mike Holmgren, Gary Kubiak and Mike Vrabel out of 175+ HC hires. Jim Harbaugh fits this criteria after next season. If he can get a big enough winning season together next year, Zac Taylor joins this bunch. There just arent a lot of guys out there that sustain success to identify, and most of these guys were HCs for multiple teams. If it shouldnt be so hard to find a good coach at the NFL level, and a good organization knew where the best talent was, then this list would be longer and the coaches would have stuck with one team. I really don't think your point holds water (cue My Cousin Vinny, the greatest courtroom movie of all time).

I put this criteria together not knowing that Vrabel fit the criteria, because I thought he was only HC for 5 years. My mistake, but I wanted the criteria to extend beyond what Vrabel had accomplished in Tennessee.
Before I get any credit for this, AI missed Tony Dungy. So there are other coaches that I am sure it has missed as well. But with so few HCs that fit a reasonable criteria for a good HC (and heck, who knows if there even is one out there not named Vrabel, given my above criteria), I just think that you have to rethink your opinion on the subject. None of these guys are a sure bet, and sometimes someone who gets fired comes back a better candidate the second time around.
 
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Sure. So the Bears taking it slow is irrelevant.

Hopefully. It’s not really the speed that worries me it’s them getting bamboozled in an interview again just like with Trestman, Nagy, and Flus.
 

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I would rather Thomas Hammock of Northern Illinois. He at least has been an NFL coach. He was a rb coach for the Ravens.
I would rather neither.
 

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Same. But Campbell? At least get a college HC who has been on an NFL staff. Steve Sarkisian makes more sense.
I really don't think we'll be hiring any of these college coaches we interview.
 

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I don’t think it’s anything to brag about, but I know Poles and he thinks Johnson cannot lead men or women and won’t hire him.
 

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Same. But Campbell? At least get a college HC who has been on an NFL staff. Steve Sarkisian makes more sense.
Campbell is a better coach than Sarkisian. Sarkisian is only benefiting from NIL. Texas was irrelevant until NIL started. Texas is the richest school in the country. They can out pay anyone and that is how they got good. I have seen a lot of Iowa State games and Campbell is a hell of a coach just to have Iowa State in the mix at times. Given that, I do not think he is a serious candidate for the job. Would be fun to watch him on the sidelines though as he has some Mike Ditka in him.
 
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