Coaching /GM Interview Tracker (Cunningham makes second round interviews in Jax)

[zabavka]

So did the Bears do any interviews yet or is their IT Dept still trying to get Zoom to work for the 10 plus panel conducting the interviews?

 

[DanielCCSBears]

The conflict in your statement was not that any ASU coach would be a great NFL coach. The conflict in your statement was that you had made two statements in direct opposition to each other. You stated that you wanted a smart hire that isn't a media-driven storyline about a one-year turnaround, and then you talk up a one year turnaround for a college team that doesn't exactly face top competition.

But the conclusion of your statement also does not make sense. It is not easy to identify coaching talent because football is football. I used an AI to compile this data, so please bare with me and feel free to point out any data point it missed. I am stereotypically a luddite, and so I only use AI for data compilation, and this felt like a good use. My request criteria was to compile all coaching hires since 2000, and to list every coach that lasted at least 6 years in the league, appeared in at least one conference championship game, and have an overall winning record as an HC (feel free to object to this criteria, but it felt like something anyone would accept as a minimum for the next HC).

AI gave me the following results: Bill Belichick, Andy Ried, Mike Tomlin, John Harbaugh, Sean Payton, Pete Carroll, Mike McCarthy, Bruce Arians, John Fox, Sean McVay, Mike Holmgren, Gary Kubiak and Mike Vrabel out of 175+ HC hires. Jim Harbaugh fits this criteria after next season. If he can get a big enough winning season together next year, Zac Taylor joins this bunch. There just arent a lot of guys out there that sustain success to identify, and most of these guys were HCs for multiple teams. If it shouldnt be so hard to find a good coach at the NFL level, and a good organization knew where the best talent was, then this list would be longer and the coaches would have stuck with one team. I really don't think your point holds water (cue My Cousin Vinny, the greatest courtroom movie of all time).

I put this criteria together not knowing that Vrabel fit the criteria, because I thought he was only HC for 5 years. My mistake, but I wanted the criteria to extend beyond what Vrabel had accomplished in Tennessee.

To your point about finding good coaches is hard yeah sure because most coaches rely on relationships instead of making the right hire.
Coaches will rely on friends instead of competent men.

But the true question is it more about Jimmy's and Joe's than Xs and Os. 10 of those guys had Hall of Fame QBs.

 

[TexasBearfan]

So did the Bears do any interviews yet or is their IT Dept still trying to get Zoom to work for the 10 plus panel conducting the interviews?

I wonder if the HR lady asked vrabel about porn they'll prob try to head that off at the pass going forward..."do you or have you ever spent time with Joy what's her name"

 

[Rise]

So did the Bears do any interviews yet or is their IT Dept still trying to get Zoom to work for the 10 plus panel conducting the interviews?

George is waiting for his new H1-B IT team to arrive. The DEI lady is just writing everything down for now as they talk over speaker phone.

 

[Canth]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1877091440041316369

I can't remember if Kingsbury was mentioned yet or not, but apparently he is also on the list.

 

[remydat]

Since this is in writing, can we sue him if he doesn't pay?

Unless the law has changed since I took the CPA, for a contract to exist both parties have to offer consideration. Since only one party has this would constitute a gift and gifts are not legally enforceable and thus can be rescinded prior to being given without issue. Once given however they are considered the property of the owner and cant be taken back if the giver changes his mind.

The famous case on the CPA exam was the engagement ring. If it is an absolute gift it doesnt have to be returned if the couple breaks up. If it is considered a conditional gift (and thus akin to a contract) because the ring is being offered in exchange for a promise to marry then the giver can legally enforce a right to its return. Some states adopt a no fault approach and thus it must be returned regardless of cause of the breakup while other states only require the return if the receiver was at fault for the breakup.

 

[gallagher]

To your point about finding good coaches is hard yeah sure because most coaches rely on relationships instead of making the right hire.
Coaches will rely on friends instead of competent men.

But the true question is it more about Jimmy's and Joe's than Xs and Os. 10 of those guys had Hall of Fame QBs.

Oh man, my biggest "promotion" was a lateral hire that I was only offered because someone owed me a solid. This is a benefit to a small group made of limited circles - when the franchise wants better odds of success, they count on people they know, or bringing in the guy who knows a guy. And when it is my turn to make a recommendation for a job, I have a rolodex to work through. Relationships count a lot when you are weeding through a sea of strangers relying on their reputation. C'est la vie mon frere. We both know it doesn't always work out - look at how the Jets gambled on Rodgers knowing who to put around him to win games, including the coaching staff!

Anyway, to the topic. I don't think we can discount that several of those top HCs also helped make the HoF QBs. Or, at the very least, some of those were "matches made in heaven" (in reference to Sean McVay, who is an excellent playcaller and never pushed a raw QB to their maximum potential - Stafford is the same QB he was in Detroit, and Goff is performing far better now than when he played for McVay). I really think that, in sum, these are all educated guesses at who can do the task - whether it is a QB or an HC, or even the damn punter. And it being an educated guess doesn't mean much, because half of the games come down to whether a kicker made a field goal or not. The Jimmys and Joes have to execute the Xs and Os, and a good program identifies how to maximize their players with good Xs and Os. Kyle Shanahan has a reputation for being that sort of coach (and is another name that my AI search missed completely - for all the excitement and fear around AI, its most remarkable trait is that it is bad at its job faster than I can ever hope to match).

I think it is more accurate to look at the other side of the coin on this one - it may be hard to find the right talent for the job, but it should be easier to rule out guys who clearly don't have it. Applied to Chicago - I think we all understand that Nagy was going to get a HC gig somewhere, and we all had reason to be excited for him to coach the Bears for a while. I think that as long as the coaching hire is someone who has shown some durable success at the NFL level, we should have some confidence that the team is heading in the right direction.

Outside of the three I named before - Vrabel, Johnson and Moore - who are your preferred candidates, and what makes you think they have "it?"

 

[iueyedoc]

So did the Bears do any interviews yet or is their IT Dept still trying to get Zoom to work for the 10 plus panel conducting the interviews?

They are just using one video feed with 10 people squeezed tightly together. Bandwidth ain't cheap.

 

[gallagher]

Unless the law has changed since I took the CPA, for a contract to exist both parties have to offer consideration. Since only one party has this would constitute a gift and gifts are not legally enforceable and thus can be rescinded prior to being given without issue. Once given however they are considered the property of the owner and cant be taken back if the giver changes his mind.

The famous case on the CPA exam was the engagement ring. If it is an absolute gift it doesnt have to be returned if the couple breaks up. If it is considered a conditional gift (and thus akin to a contract) because the ring is being offered in exchange for a promise to marry then the giver can legally enforce a right to its return. Some states adopt a no fault approach and thus it must be returned regardless of cause of the breakup while other states only require the return if the receiver was at fault for the breakup.

You are not wrong, this is a valid offer, but this one runs into an enforceability issue. Suppose Donald Trump made a valid offer by tweet - you would know where he made the offer so you would know what jurisdiction applies, and you would know who to sue to enforce the contract. The twitter person here is named Thanos, has a cartoony picture, and only has 38 likes on the tweet right now. You're going to run out of resources before you even figure out who this guy really is. If you had enough in the pool to actually pursue this, he could spend a year making you do paperwork to prove that there was an actual intent to make an offer.

Anyway, if 1,000,000 Bears fans like his tweet, I would gladly offer to represent the fandom for 20% of the total pool of potential earnings (before court costs are considered). Now, is THAT a valid offer that you can accept and enforce?

 

[dabears70]

So did the Bears do any interviews yet or is their IT Dept still trying to get Zoom to work for the 10 plus panel conducting the interviews?

So it sounds like every 1st interview they do with every candidate will be over zoom or whatever as was Vrabel and the Arizona guy yesterday.

 

[dabears70]

George is waiting for his new H1-B IT team to arrive. The DEI lady is just writing everything down for now as they talk over speaker phone.

To your new avatar:

 

[cameronkrazie86]

So did the Bears do any interviews yet or is their IT Dept still trying to get Zoom to work for the 10 plus panel conducting the interviews?

They're definitely using free zoom too, gotta cut expenses where you can!

 

[msadows]

i know you guys are joking but they probably already know vrabel is a patriot

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

Todd Monken and Arthur Smith are very interesting candidates to me.

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

I feel like we aren't going to get much between now and Saturday. Once all the main interviews are done on Friday and Saturday, I would expect from Saturday to Monday we will start to see some things begin to leak.

 

[msadows]

I feel like we aren't going to get much between now and Saturday. Once all the main interviews are done on Friday and Saturday, I would expect from Saturday to Monday we will start to see some things begin to leak.

Only thing that will leak is @ILoveDick's asshole.

I doubt any coaching decisions are close to being made outside of vrabel to the pats*. None of these guys likely are making decisions based on a 30 minute zoom interview.

 

[Hawkeye OG]

Campbell is a better coach than Sarkisian. Sarkisian is only benefiting from NIL. Texas was irrelevant until NIL started. Texas is the richest school in the country. They can out pay anyone and that is how they got good. I have seen a lot of Iowa State games and Campbell is a hell of a coach just to have Iowa State in the mix at times. Given that, I do not think he is a serious candidate for the job. Would be fun to watch him on the sidelines though as he has some Mike Ditka in him.

Boomer Sooner is butthurt

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

Only thing that will leak is @ILoveDick's asshole.

I doubt any coaching decisions are close to being made outside of vrabel to the pats*. None of these guys likely are making decisions based on a 30 minute zoom interview.

Agreed. And honestly, I feel like there's some boomer-ism in the media the more I look at the process.

We got this stupid long list of names, sure.

But they are doing it all virtually and if they don't like the guy, it doesn't have to go 3 hours. In short, this is an initial screening.

So given that, I don't buy the narrative that they have to bring guys in for these interviews, or that they are cheap for doing them all virtually. This is literally how many job screenings are done now, and its just part one of a longer interview process.

Given that, the long list doesn't bother me as much any more. Now if it is this long for round 2 of interviews, then we have an issue.

 

[Certified Troll]

What are "boomers"?

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

What are "boomers"?

Google it.