Coaching /GM Interview Tracker (Liam Coen is a Jag, Pirate Pete is a Raider, Cowboys hired a guy)

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It was mostly JHood but yes they're idiots. I always hate myself about 30 seconds after i click to watch their show on youtube.
Oh shyt, i just blamed JHood more than Kaplan.

Please don't come at me @remydat
 

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It was a terrible call but so was the penis sewage throw too.

I didnt see bears fans saying WHAT AN IDIOT CALL after that penis sewage one, they said he's a genius for even thinking of that one.

The difference is jamo was the wrong guy to let run that play. Guy may be the dumbest player on the lions.
 

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Oh shyt, i just blamed JHood more than Kaplan.

Please don't come at me @remydat

Hood used to not be bad, I feel like all these years w/ kap have wore on him. He's always negative and seems like he's not enjoying doing this anymore.

TBH i would as well if i had to spend 3 hours every morning with david kaplan
 

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So many damn weird Rooney Rule takes.

Bottom line:

Rooney Rule is the law of the land. All the talk of "how it looks" is pointless as most teams, unfortunately, are just going to comply with the rule to get it out of the way and then go on to hire whatever coach they want anyway. Turns out, you can't actually FORCE people into being different people (a lesson every person from every walk of life would do well to learn).

At its heart, the Rooney Rule had good intentions, but unfortunately in execution hasn't provided a ton on what it was intended to deliver. There are some success stories, but mostly, teams treat it like a hoop to jump through - bureaucratic red tape.

It might be worth it for the league to take a look at the whole thing and try to come up with something different, that perhaps incentivizes teams to bring in more minorities without adding more red tape to their operations.

As to what that could be - I don't have an answer. It's a tough nut to crack. But I am not going to pretend one team is better than another or more "tolerant" than another because they checked off their rooney rule requirements in a more subtle way...
 

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For me I wouldn’t call it a trigger. I just view it as a pointless interview for the Bears HC search. It’s different if they brought him in to interview him as a positional coach. And that only makes sense if your top candidates wanted George as a positional coach.
You keep mentioning that it’s pointless to interview him for head coach so clearly you don’t view him as head coach material for some reason, though we don’t know what that reason is.

Why do you feel it is pointless to consider him as a head coach?
 

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So many damn weird Rooney Rule takes.

Bottom line:

Rooney Rule is the law of the land. All the talk of "how it looks" is pointless as most teams, unfortunately, are just going to comply with the rule to get it out of the way and then go on to hire whatever coach they want anyway. Turns out, you can't actually FORCE people into being different people (a lesson every person from every walk of life would do well to learn).

At its heart, the Rooney Rule had good intentions, but unfortunately in execution hasn't provided a ton on what it was intended to deliver. There are some success stories, but mostly, teams treat it like a hoop to jump through - bureaucratic red tape.

It might be worth it for the league to take a look at the whole thing and try to come up with something different, that perhaps incentivizes teams to bring in more minorities without adding more red tape to their operations.

As to what that could be - I don't have an answer. It's a tough nut to crack. But I am not going to pretend one team is better than another or more "tolerant" than another because they checked off their rooney rule requirements in a more subtle way...
That is such a black thing to say.
 

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this is juts a fallacy
I’m not saying it’s true just providing a perspective that isn’t discussed.

Alternatively BJ is Kyle Shannahan and we screwed it up.

Bottom line - both scenarios are possible and we have a bunch of dummies who can’t tell the difference.
 

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They don't do it with the timing the Bears did it with, which is the entire point of my post. They waited months and then scrambled, and made it totally obvious they were doing it to satisify the rule.

It doesn't matter what people think of the rule. That again isn't the point.
That’s ridiculous
 

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I’m not saying it’s true just providing a perspective that isn’t discussed.

Alternatively BJ is Kyle Shannahan and we screwed it up.

Bottom line - both scenarios are possible and we have a bunch of dummies who can’t tell the difference.
But it’s has been discussed ad naseum. Really what you mean to say is that “it COULD be…” so and so.

McCarthy is a SB winning coach, how many SBs did Arians have at the time? BJ is a young coordinator, Trestman has been in football for a very long time, dating back to working with Steve Young lol. And the CFL. The parallels really aren’t as close as you make it seem to be.
 

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The bears must hire Mike McCarthy. BJ is too much of an unknown at HC and McCarthys resume speaks for itself.
 

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If you don't see word of an interview of a non serious minoity candidate seconds after the Lions loss as bad optics and different than I can't help you.
Whether announced or leaked matters not, that the Bears let it play out that way is just so Bears.
1. Do you think the Bears arranged the interview with Eddie George at the same time you found out about it? Do you think they called him when Goff threw a Pick Six?

2. Why are you so sure he’s not a serious candidate? Tomlin and John Harbaugh would have been considered nonserious at the time they were hired,too, no?
 

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Not ridiculous at all. You just dont agree.

They interviewed an OC and made him passing game coordinator. Same concept.

Under Pace, they interviewed Fangio for HC after his contract expired at the end of 2017. He eventually accepted the DC job when they hired Nagy for HC instead of him.
It’s not the same concept at all. A HC vs OC vs Passing game coordinator are 3 completely different roles and interviews.

Fangio was in house candidate. He was already the DC for the Bears. He never took a lesser role.
 

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You keep mentioning that it’s pointless to interview him for head coach so clearly you don’t view him as head coach material for some reason, though we don’t know what that reason is.

Why do you feel it is pointless to consider him as a head coach?
I don’t view him as HC material for the 2025 Bears. Clearly no team with HC openings views him as HC material in 2025.

He has no real NFL coaching experience while other legit candidates do. It’s simple. There’s a reason why the Bears didn’t fly him out in a private jet or setting up a second interview with him. He never had a real chance.
 

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