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Boo, you're probably right about all that. But don't we need to finally go after guys like that again if we're going to be serious about winning?

Yes.



If Cano can be productive through 4 or 5 years of a 7 year deal, wouldn't it be worth it, especially if he was serviceable for the other 2 or 3?

Yes.

Also, I was originally very happy with the Soriano contract. I then turned on him through 09-11 when he was swinging at everything bounced up to the plate. Now, looking at the body of the deal, it really has been a good deal. he gave the Cubs a good chance of winning for a few years, was mediocre for a couple, and if the Cubs were good around him now he'd be a nice complementary player. If you added a guy like Cano now, Soriano could be a real nice 5 or 6 hitter even next year.[/QUOTE]

Soriano's contract and production have been fine, despite the experts who whine and cry about how he has crippled the franchise.

I also think a big part of Soriano's down seasons from 09-11 is that he was clearly hurt for long stretches of those seasons and yet still went out there and tried to carry the team.
 

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Don't you think Rizzo is coming along?

Rizzo has been great the last month. I actually watched a bit of the game yesterday and was surprised that when he struck out early in the game with runners on base that was his first strikeout in 40 AB's. I don't think he can sustain that.

But it was also about a month ago when he was hitting well under .200 and there was talk of maybe even sending him back to the minors.

But everyone wants to forget that and declare him a franchise 1B for the next seven seasons based on one hot month.
 

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Soriano has been WAY more productive in his time with the Cubs and the sheep clan like yourself have bitched to high heaven about him.

Wow, only you would quote that part of the post, where I made an example I haven't bitched about Soriano keep trolling, and ever heard of multi-quote? It puts all your shit into one post so you don't take up an entire page of posts.
 

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Rizzo has been great the last month. I actually watched a bit of the game yesterday and was surprised that when he struck out early in the game with runners on base that was his first strikeout in 40 AB's. I don't think he can sustain that.

But it was also about a month ago when he was hitting well under .200 and there was talk of maybe even sending him back to the minors.

But everyone wants to forget that and declare him a franchise 1B for the next seven seasons based on one hot month.

That was Dale Sveum being an idiot. He also threatened to send Castro down. It was one of the dumbest things I have ever heard him say. His average dipped to start the year, but he was still hitting for power and walking. What has impressed me the most is he adjusted to left handed pitching. He was God awful against them last year and the first month. Now, his line against them is .321 BA, .387 OBP, .625 SLG, 1.012 OPS. If he can hit left handed pitching, he will be fine for a long time. I dont expect him to keep that line but if he keeps it respectable then I have little worry over him. I noticed he changed his approach against them. He chokes up on the bat against them now and just tries to take it where it is pitched. Before, he seemed to try to yank everything from them. He is a big strong boy. He can take balls out opposite field. I think it clicked in his head and he has been fantastic against them.
 

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yea your right.. maybe if we all ignore him KBISBACK will go away..

Which would then open the lines for some more of this board's stupidity to go unchallenged.

If you want to lower the board's overall IQ, without it going unchallenged, then you need to find a baseball for crackheads forum.

You have done nothing but "talk" in circles, provide nothing of any real substance, and start this thread with nothing behind it but the winds from your ass.

Then to top it off. Actually believe your mind contains enough knowledge (both historical and recent) to try and argue an empty point that you've made.

Good Job Spankie !!!!

Keep up the great work. It truely is entertaining and hilarious.

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Let's see here. Jackson is making almsot 200 million less than Hamilton. Plus Jackson has pitched good in his last 2 outing and Hamilton is still sucking. Man we have a lot of dumb asses here now... thankfully I don't come on much anymore because of that and just stick to the homepage.
 

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Let's see here. Jackson is making almsot 200 million less than Hamilton.

And where does 125 million dollar contract for Hamilton suddenly become 200 million more than a 52 million dollar contract for Jackson?

Plus Jackson has pitched good in his last 2 outing and Hamilton is still sucking.

We will just see what these guys are doing at the end of the year. Remember LaHair versus Pujols and Fielder at this time last year? And where is LaHair again?

Man we have a lot of dumb asses here now... thankfully I don't come on much anymore because of that and just stick to the homepage.

And the homepage is chock full of intelligence so that is where you should be. Say hi to Wriggs224 and HurricaneDJ for me.
 

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And where does 125 million dollar contract for Hamilton suddenly become 200 million more than a 52 million dollar contract for Jackson?



We will just see what these guys are doing at the end of the year. Remember LaHair versus Pujols and Fielder at this time last year? And where is LaHair again?



And the homepage is chock full of intelligence so that is where you should be. Say hi to Wriggs224 and HurricaneDJ for me.

^This
 

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Rizzo has been great the last month. I actually watched a bit of the game yesterday and was surprised that when he struck out early in the game with runners on base that was his first strikeout in 40 AB's. I don't think he can sustain that.

But it was also about a month ago when he was hitting well under .200 and there was talk of maybe even sending him back to the minors.

But everyone wants to forget that and declare him a franchise 1B for the next seven seasons based on one hot month.


When a player comes up from the minors, there will be a period when pitchers start to make adjustments and learn how to pitch to him. Rizzo then adjusted to that.

Simple baseball logic to me
 

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When a player comes up from the minors, there will be a period when pitchers start to make adjustments and learn how to pitch to him. Rizzo then adjusted to that.

Simple baseball logic to me

Where in your simple baseball logic does it tell you that a player who was called up before the All Star Game LAST YEAR is a long ways removed from coming up from the minors?

Clearly that is too advanced a concept for your simple baseball logic.
 

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