Complete cherry-picked, misleading, niche numbers: Eye on Caleb & Jayden

[playthrough2001]

Put another way seems to me Daniels is closer to his ceiling than Caleb is which makes sense given Daniels had 5 years in college and had an OC that has unlocked more of his ceiling than Bears' OCs have unlocked for Caleb.

Yesterday, I was disappointed in the way Brown chose to attack the Lions especially early in the game.

The Lions were in single high, man to man, and they were crowding the LOS. Instead of looking to leverage the CBs inside and vertically and making the safety make a coverage decision, Brown was calling all kinds of bubble screens and jet sweeps.

You can’t attack that scheme east to west. It was maddening.

 

[TheEarlofRobin]

Put another way seems to me Daniels is closer to his ceiling than Caleb is which makes sense given Daniels had 5 years in college and had an OC that has unlocked more of his ceiling than Bears' OCs have unlocked for Caleb.

It "makes sense" that Daniels is 'closer to his ceiling' because he just threw 5 TDs against the #1 defense, while Caleb is struggling against Detroit's B-Team defensive players. Thanks for the pro tip.

 

[msadows]

kinda a dumb argument cause if you flipped their situations jayden would be snapped in two after all these hard sacks while caleb would be ROTY

5 years in college doesnt fix his frail frame

 

[remydat]

Kingsbury won't get a HC job

I doubt any NFL team hires KK as a head coach. Maybe he goes back to college

Someone will be tempted IMO especially if they are drafting a QB in 2025.

 

[remydat]

Does he get as many chances if Hurts is playing and the Eagles are controlling the clock and continuing to score points?

Probably not but he did get those chances and he did deliver.

 

[remydat]

According to PFR, Jayden is above the league average in: comp%, TD%, INT%, Succ%, YPA, AYPA, YPC, Passer Rating, NYPA, ANYPA

Caleb is above the league average in: INT%

Caleb is below the league average in: comp%, TD%, , Succ%, YPA, AYPA, YPC, Passer Rating, NYPA, ANYPA

Yeah I was referring mostly to Yards, TDs and Ints but thanks for the info.

It "makes sense" that Daniels is 'closer to his ceiling' because he just threw 5 TDs against the #1 defense, while Caleb is struggling against Detroit's B-Team defensive players. Thanks for the pro tip.

And 2 Ints but that has nothing to do with one's ceiling.

 

[msadows]

these debates are always stupid as ****.

These guys aren't playing in the same situations.

 

[bamainatlanta]

Yesterday, I was disappointed in the way Brown chose to attack the Lions especially early in the game.

The Lions were in single high, man to man, and they were crowding the LOS. Instead of looking to leverage the CBs inside and vertically and making the safety make a coverage decision, Brown was calling all kinds of bubble screens and jet sweeps.

You can’t attack that scheme east to west. It was maddening.

Brown was a loser for Carolina and no surprise that the Bears hire him and he’s a bum here too. Somehow the Bears hire the one McVey disciple that can’t scheme.

 

[msadows]

Brown was a loser for Carolina and no surprise that the Bears hire him and he’s a bum here too. Somehow the Bears hire the one McVey disciple that can’t scheme.

Not defending the guy but lol.


What happened to thomas brown MVP and future head coach?

He's the last guy im blaming, dude is in over his head.

He was doing just fine as an OC, but you nutjobs needed blood. Now that he's focusing on the whole team every unit has gotten worse. Flus should have been fired after week 18 and you shoulda let TB focus on caleb and the offense.

He's also still running waldrons scheme, so its not like whatever he's doing now is his own.

 

[bamainatlanta]

Not defending the guy but lol.


What happened to thomas brown MVP and future head coach?

He's the last guy im blaming, dude is in over his head.

He was doing just fine as an OC, but you nutjobs needed blood. Now that he's focusing on the whole team every unit has gotten worse. Flus should have been fired after week 18 and you shoulda let TB focus on caleb and the offense.

He's also still running waldrons scheme, so its not like whatever he's doing now is his own.

lol the scheme doesn’t excuse his crappy play calling that make no sense like his 4th down playcalling against the Vikings or the calls we saw yesterday. No legitimate franchise holds onto Flus after his numerous game ending debacles.

Have to love reading “I’m not defending the guy” but then go on to defending the guy. Make it make sense.

 

[hyatt151]

You know you are part of that group too right? Everyone here is. In fact all adults are. Welcome to this we call life.

how dare you insult the king of the salary cap like that

 

[Anytime23]

Holy Crap Jayden won a QB duel with...Kenny Pickett? Oh...that's really...impressive. Maybe next he can get a chance to outscore Josh Rosen.

he put up over 30 points vs the eagles defense, which is one of the best in the league.

Are you more impressed with Caleb vs Goff where Caleb scored 17 vs a defense has like 2 starters on it?

He also out-dualed Joe Burrow earlier this season. Hes no will Levis or Bryce young but still pretty good!

 

[hyatt151]

Not defending the guy but lol.


What happened to thomas brown MVP and future head coach?

He's the last guy im blaming, dude is in over his head.

He was doing just fine as an OC, but you nutjobs needed blood. Now that he's focusing on the whole team every unit has gotten worse. Flus should have been fired after week 18 and you shoulda let TB focus on caleb and the offense.

He's also still running waldrons scheme, so its not like whatever he's doing now is his own.

that's exactly what you're doing

 

[Nads786]

Do people realize you don’t have to bad-talk one in order to give credit to the other?

Seriously! I watched Drake Maye and I was impressed by his throwing ability. I would say the QB I'm least impressed with is Bo Nix. He makes some horrifically bad decisions and the system feeds him easy TDs much like Jordan Love.

Maye and Daniels seem to consistently earn their TDs. That's a new stat I just invented btw "earned TDs." It's based on my bias toward whatever QB I seem to like that day. You can find out more on my YT channel - "WillDoAnythingForClicks"

 

[Anytime23]

predominantly justin stans anyway

Odd how I always hear this from the biggest Fields haters. I’m sure it’s just coincidence.

 

[didshereallysaythat]

kinda a dumb argument cause if you flipped their situations jayden would be snapped in two after all these hard sacks while caleb would be ROTY

5 years in college doesnt fix his frail frame

No but steroids do.

 

[didshereallysaythat]

he put up over 30 points vs the eagles defense, which is one of the best in the league.

Are you more impressed with Caleb vs Goff where Caleb scored 17 vs a defense has like 2 starters on it?

He also out-dualed Joe Burrow earlier this season. Hes no will Levis or Bryce young but still pretty good!

Here is the thing though. When you watched the game, did you honestly think the drives were stalling because of Caleb? Or because everything around him was a clown show? Odunze fumbling, offensive holding penalties, false starts, etc. And then you look up and it is 20-0.

 

[hyatt151]

he put up over 30 points vs the eagles defense, which is one of the best in the league.

Are you more impressed with Caleb vs Goff where Caleb scored 17 vs a defense has like 2 starters on it?

He also out-dualed Joe Burrow earlier this season. Hes no will Levis or Bryce young but still pretty good!

sctually 5, Arnold, Reeder and Campbell, Joseph and Branch, but your point stands

 

[Anytime23]

Here is the thing though. When you watched the game, did you honestly think the drives were stalling because of Caleb? Or because everything around him was a clown show? Odunze fumbling, offensive holding penalties, false starts, etc. And then you look up and it is 20-0.

Washington had 5 turnovers.

 

[bamainatlanta]

Here is the thing though. When you watched the game, did you honestly think the drives were stalling because of Caleb? Or because everything around him was a clown show? Odunze fumbling, offensive holding penalties, false starts, etc. And then you look up and it is 20-0.

It’s all of the above. Caleb’s a rookie so at least his fuckups are explainable/understandable. He’ll get there