Corey Crawford Appreciation Thread

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i think a lot of people just want the Ray Emery feel good story (i even want it but not at the cost of taking focus off what have been real issues) Has been no need at all to put him in net like you said Ton. Silly talk. A goalie change is only needed when a teams getting destroyed on the scoreboard..Hawks have not been.</p>
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you know what else is a feel good story?</p>


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The goalie that was written off. The one who rotted in the juniors for five years, beat Niemi for a job twice, only to not get anything to show for it. The guy who could have kicked up a fuss and demanded out, but instead put his head down and worked harder only to be where he is right now, even though a huge chunk of the fanbase wants his head on a platter no matter what. He's never complained, he just plays better. That's a damn good story. I can't help but feel inspired to what Corey has gone through to get to where he is right now.</p>
 

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you know what else is a feel good story?</p>


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The goalie that was written off. The one who rotted in the juniors for five years, beat Niemi for a job twice, only to not get anything to show for it. The guy who could have kicked up a fuss and demanded out, but instead put his head down and worked harder only to be where he is right now, even though a huge chunk of the fanbase wants his head on a platter no matter what. He's never complained, he just plays better. That's a damn good story. I can't help but feel inspired to what Corey has gone through to get to where he is right now.</p>
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Totally agree accept the bolded part. Never heard anyone hate him, at least all this year.</p>
 

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I have a couple women friends who during the season had a pretty heated debate on Crow vs Razor. At that time their stats were almost exactly the same. I was at Saturdays game and the girl who prefers Razor texted me that the Hawks would lose with Craw in net. My response ..... :icon-smile:
 

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Totally agree accept the bolded part. Never heard anyone hate him, at least all this year.</p></blockquote>


you must not have twitter, facebook or the internet. There are people who STILL want his head on a platter.
 

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Add the 5th circle of Dante's Inferno (the O-boards) to that.  You have plenty of assbags there that seem to be waiting for us to lose so they could blame it on him.</p>


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Yeah, Dr. Craw should have had that knuckler, but he was good enough in that game overall and did make a couple of monster saves.</p>
 

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Crow is not the reason this series is having a game 7 and is also the reason the Hawks get to play a game 7.</p>


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Yes the 2nd goal was soft but considering what his offense has done to help this series, I would say he has done a fine job thus far.</p>


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People will always blame the goalie. He is always the easiest to blame.</p>
 

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If the coaching staff figured out the PP a couple years ago, this series would be over already.</p>
 

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*****, piss, moan.

3/4 last two games, i dont think it is luck when it extends past a single game. They have two D on the point for the first unit now instead of loading up on fancy forwards.

Also, i never gave up on crow, i actually liked his slow ascent to the starting job. Last good goalie prospect who didnt fall in dale's lap (niemi) was Anderson, who got totally rushed when T-bo broke his hand and whatever else happened (i can't exactly recall at the moment) to push him into a starting spot way too early.
 

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Also, i never gave up on crow, i actually liked his slow ascent to the starting job. Last good goalie prospect who didnt fall in dale's lap (niemi) was Anderson, who got totally rushed when T-bo broke his hand and whatever else happened (i can't exactly recall at the moment) to push him into a starting spot way too early.</p>
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This +1. Hawks have a piss poor modern history of grooming their goalies and letting them develop. Craw has been the guy to be groomed properly and they have been doing it. Guys still only what 3-4 years into the league? Hes been perfectly fine and at times fantastic and at moments he has done what young goalies do. Someone go talk to Hab fans about the slow process of watching Price develop and listen to them still tell you he is young and has a lot of work to do. Someone go talk to a Pens fan who still thinks Fluery is the guy for the job (a guy who has been on national teams). Crawford is certainly better than Fluery and he in my opinion is better than Price.</p>


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I think a lot of people get down on Crow because he isn't an acrobatic goalie like the Rasks of the world. So he doesn't make every save look like he made the world crumble. Lazy fans don't understand the goalie position. They don't understand the small things that are actually huge things of the position like communication btw defenders and positioning and rebound control. All they see or want to see are spectacular saves that look good on montages. Craw has those, maybe not as much as some of his counter parts, but more importantly is his positioning has become more sound as has his puck handling his communication and certainly his rebound control has. For a goalie that is still in development hes been damn good. has he got help from his blueline? Of course he has..since when was that a bad thing in team sports esp this one?</p>


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I for one have enjoyed watching Craw develop on the Hawks and wish to continue doing so. Its been a long time since we fans have been given that.</p>
 

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man those were dark days of Anderson/Passmore/Leighton rotation while T-bo was on the mend. Yikes!!

i remember his second or first year in rockford being matched up in a playoff against price on the bulldogs. also rememeber his first call ups when he wasnt quite ready and needed to work on the positioning you mentioned hes great at now. He used to not use his big frame enough and lets rebounds out too much as well. The shutout against thedefending champ Ducks was a big signal that he was about to prosper in my eyes.

His pads were cooler back then though, i like black/dark designs better than the white ones (even though i know at pro speed the white is more advantageous cuz it "appears" like a wider five hole. Funny to think that shit started with Roy's Koho Avalanche pads and pretty much in all designs now; having white at least from the knees down to the mid-foot)
 

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Crow is not the reason this series is having a game 7 and is also the reason the Hawks get to play a game 7.</p>


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Yes the 2nd goal was soft but considering what his offense has done to help this series, I would say he has done a fine job thus far.</p>


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People will always blame the goalie. He is always the easiest to blame.</p>
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The best part to me is how he recovered and played really solid after that 2nd goal. A few years ago, that goal would have been a big issue for him.</p>
 

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I love this whole thing about the knuckle puck in game 6.  How often do you hear people call that a soft goal?  All the time, right?  How often do you see goalies give that one up?  ALL THE TIME!  Therefore, it must not be a friggin soft goal after all.</p>
 

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Okay, technically Rask's goal was a real softie--that had shades of Huet in it.</p>


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As for Crawford, I think people forget he's a sub-$3M goalie.  He's not Brodeur, he's not Roy, he's not Lundqvist, and he's not what Vancouver had Luongo (falsely) pegged at.  If Crawford was as good as some people expect him to be he would be making as much as Keith, Toews, Hossa, etc. and would be a perennial all-star.  Further, if he was, we wouldn't be able to afford him.</p>


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I think though a lot of fans lose perspective.  Crawford flubs a knuckleball and he "lets in complete softies!" or "hasn't proven he's a money playoff goaltender."  Sharp blows his coverage, Keith gift-wraps a turn-over that leasts to a breakaway or odd-man rush, etc. and it's "Crawford has to bail them out."</p>


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I'm all for calling out Crawford when he screws the pooch, but let's have some sembalance of balance here.  Last game you could argue that Crawford was responsible for a goal (the knuckleball), and Hossa was responsible for the bonehead penalty.  Sub-3m goalie vs. 5M+ all-star vet RW; Hossa should get as much, if not more ire, because he knows better and is paid to know, and play, better.</p>
 

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I love this whole thing about the knuckle puck in game 6.  How often do you hear people call that a soft goal?  All the time, right?  How often do you see goalies give that one up?  ALL THE TIME!  Therefore, it must not be a friggin soft goal after all.</p>
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Honestly, I didnt give that second goal a second thought. Crow gets no blame from me. He has played a solid series throughout and the most consistant player on the squad thus far.</p>


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"Soft" is actually a term I dislike as well, but it saves keystrokes. I use that term, more so when a goalie is playing well and makes so many save that dwarf the one he let in.</p>


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And as mentioned, he got amnesia 10 seconds after it went in. Didnt phase his game and the 3rd goal was unstoppable by anyone's view.</p>


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I have been a Crow fan for a long time, pissed when Niemi beat em out, even passed the Cup Joy, happy to see the net offered to him, happier to see him claim his net, happier now that he has earned it, and his play has been everything a team could ask for.</p>


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Any opinion less then this about Crow, I would have to throw out the infamous and ever-trumpting internetwebs call-out: "You dont know shit about hockey."</p>
 

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It's funny the amount of shit he has been taking for the knucklepuck</p>


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short memories, people forget that Quick let in TWO goals from center ice in the playoffs last year.</p>
 

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The chat was ridonkulous after that goal. If that knuckle puck was the game winner, Crawford sure would've had a long summer of looking at himself in the mirror if the Hawks hadn't finally managed to score more than 1 fucking goal in this series.</p>
 

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It's funny the amount of shit he has been taking for the knucklepuck

 

short memories, people forget that Quick let in TWO goals from center ice in the playoffs last year.</p></blockquote>


Correct...and Quick let in a couple real stinkers in games 1 and 2 vs StLoser this year. Niemi let in a turd in game 1, round 1 vs Nashville the cup year, etc...
 

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And then there's the 21 goals in the Final he gave up. But he's a Cup Winnar! lol</p>
 

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And then there's the 21 goals in the Final he gave up. But he's a Cup Winnar! lol</p>
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Still doens't matter; he won the cup.  Much like us blowing the team up afterwards.</p>


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It's one of the reasons I'm really hoping we can pull it off this year.  I thought Crawford rebounded bigtime between this year and last.  The Jennings is nice, but I think he, and the rest of the team, should get the prize.  They still have to earn it and have a lot to go through to earn it--not just the hurdle tonight; don't get me wrong.  I'm just really hoping he can win it and make most of the fans who still doubt him wonder where their god is now...Especially since he won't have a Norris-winning D-man in front of him (maybe a Selke-winning center; that's it).</p>
 

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And then there's the 21 goals in the Final he gave up. But he's a Cup Winnar! lol</p>
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A lot of goalies are cup winners. Nemo didn't have to be great in that playoff, he just had to be all right.</p>


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And some games, he was just bad. Luckily we were able to score 6 goals to bail him out. </p>
 

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