Crosstown Classic: Cubs (15-26) vs. White Sox (21-21) 5/18-5/20 Discussion Thread

[DewsSox79]

Someone apparently didn't read the article or has his imaginary reading glasses on to find where anyone here suggested that the call going the other way would have resulted in the Cubs winning.

On the otherhand I don't think it is unwarranted on our part to wonder if you guys caught a break though. It is at least as valid as wondering if Jeff Samardzija was trying to hit PK when he had 2 strikes on him and with his splitfinger.

you caught a nice break with Rios dropping the ball. couldnt take advantage of that.

as far as shark, im 50/50 on the hbp. he did the same thing to heyward but i dunno.

 

[dabynsky]

you caught a nice break with Rios dropping the ball. couldnt take advantage of that.

as far as shark, im 50/50 on the hbp. he did the same thing to heyward but i dunno.

You've got to be kidding me. First of all, if he was going to drill him why wouldn't he do it on the first or second pitch? Second of all, once he has two strikes on him why is he going to put a runner on base? Third of all, why is he throwing his slowest pitch to hit him if he is trying to retaliate for PK hitting a homerun?

Why is it so hard to say you guys caught a break? It doesn't change the outcome of the game. It doesn't mean there is an asterik by the game. It happens, but to sit there and say we can't talk about it in our forum is stupid.

 

[Rice Cube]

I don't care about the "break" thing. I care that it was a bad call. The Rios play was defensive stupidity. I can live with the Cubs being defensively stupid. I can't live with them being penalized by umpire brain farts.

 

[dabynsky]

Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | CWS@CHC: Konerko hit near eye by pitch, leaves game - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia

Watch Samardzija's reaction to the play.

 

[DewsSox79]

You've got to be kidding me. First of all, if he was going to drill him why wouldn't he do it on the first or second pitch? Second of all, once he has two strikes on him why is he going to put a runner on base? Third of all, why is he throwing his slowest pitch to hit him if he is trying to retaliate for PK hitting a homerun?

Why is it so hard to say you guys caught a break? It doesn't change the outcome of the game. It doesn't mean there is an asterik by the game. It happens, but to sit there and say we can't talk about it in our forum is stupid.

relax sweet tits. IST for home team is here, so we are going to be here just like when we are at home you will be with us the whole time. Im saying 50/50 and your defending him like he 100% didnt try to hit him.

if you guys arent using it as an excuse why keep talking and talking and talking about it. So much convo about the beckham play one would tend to say you guys are making excuses.

 

[Uman85]

Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | CWS@CHC: Konerko hit near eye by pitch, leaves game - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia

Watch Samardzija's reaction to the play.

Not just the reaction, but the fact that he walked to the plate to see if Paulie was okay. That's the first time in recent memory that I've seen a pitcher do that after hitting a batter. I gained a lot of respect for Jeff for that move. It baffles me how pitchers can show such complacency and apathy after they bean someone. Good to see a change in that for once.

 

[DewsSox79]

Baseball Video Highlights & Clips | CWS@CHC: Konerko hit near eye by pitch, leaves game - Video | MLB.com: Multimedia

Watch Samardzija's reaction to the play.

that means a whole lot. very rarely do you get a cole hammels response.

 

[Tazer4mvp]

I don't feel he did it on purpose, if he did he is the biggest ahole ever..never go for a guys head respect the game and ur opponent.

 

[DewsSox79]

Not just the reaction, but the fact that he walked to the plate to see if Paulie was okay. That's the first time in recent memory that I've seen a pitcher do that after hitting a batter. I gained a lot of respect for Jeff for that move. It baffles me how pitchers can show such complacency and apathy after they bean someone. Good to see a change in that for once.

happens all the time when players go down.

 

[DewsSox79]

I don't care about the "break" thing. I care that it was a bad call. The Rios play was defensive stupidity. I can live with the Cubs being defensively stupid. I can't live with them being penalized by umpire brain farts.

wow. almost like the cubs never get breaks. what a joke.

 

[Rice Cube]

I don't feel he did it on purpose, if he did he is the biggest ahole ever..never go for a guys head respect the game and ur opponent.

It was about as purposeful as the pitch in Boston that broke Byrd's face. Samardzija used to have terrible control so stuff like that is bound to happen and it's unfortunate that it did.

 

[dabynsky]

relax sweet tits. IST for home team is here, so we are going to be here just like when we are at home you will be with us the whole time. Im saying 50/50 and your defending him like he 100% didnt try to hit him.

if you guys arent using it as an excuse why keep talking and talking and talking about it. So much convo about the beckham play one would tend to say you guys are making excuses.

We want to know if the call was correct. The conversation was trying to figure that out. You are the one that is telling us that we are making excuses or that we shouldn't be talking about this in the IST. Yet you can't find one post in this thread that says we lost the game because of that call being wrong, if indeed it was wrong. Better yet actually read what Rice posted which started the conversation where he clearly writes that the Cubs would still have probably lost the game.

Thinking Shark tried to hit PK in the situation is dumb becuase of all the factors I listed. Your reasoning for it being 50/50 is because he happened to hit Heyward following a homerun earlier in the year.

 

[dabynsky]

that means a whole lot. very rarely do you get a cole hammels response.

My god you really do refuse to look at all available evidence. We aren't talking about comments a player makes after the game. That is the immediate reaction that Samardzija had to the play. Not to mention all the other factors that go into, but yeah that is clearly the deal with Samardzija is if you hit a homerun you get hit the next time up.

 

[Tazer4mvp]

In the end all the bad things that happen to he cubs are their own fault...all you had to do was let the goat in...

 

[dabynsky]

In the end all the bad things that happen to he cubs are their own fault...all you had to do was let the goat in...

 

[DewsSox79]

We want to know if the call was correct. The conversation was trying to figure that out. You are the one that is telling us that we are making excuses or that we shouldn't be talking about this in the IST. Yet you can't find one post in this thread that says we lost the game because of that call being wrong, if indeed it was wrong. Better yet actually read what Rice posted which started the conversation where he clearly writes that the Cubs would still have probably lost the game.

Thinking Shark tried to hit PK in the situation is dumb becuase of all the factors I listed. Your reasoning for it being 50/50 is because he happened to hit Heyward following a homerun earlier in the year.

Below is what I said. Not once did I tell you to not talk about it.

relax sweet tits. IST for home team is here, so we are going to be here just like when we are at home you will be with us the whole time. Im saying 50/50 and your defending him like he 100% didnt try to hit him.

if you guys arent using it as an excuse why keep talking and talking and talking about it. So much convo about the beckham play one would tend to say you guys are making excuses.

you caught a nice break with Rios dropping the ball. couldnt take advantage of that.

as far as shark, im 50/50 on the hbp. he did the same thing to heyward but i dunno.

too much time being spent on the beckham play. typical to look for excuses.

 

[dabynsky]

Below is what I said. Not once did I tell you to not talk about it.

How else is the statement "too much time being spent talking about the Beckham play" supposed to be interpreted?

And you've yet to show how any of us have used this as an excuse for the outcome of the game or suggested that the call being different would have affected the outcome.

 

[Tazer4mvp]

Iam just messin with u bro..

 

[DewsSox79]

My god you really do refuse to look at all available evidence. We aren't talking about comments a player makes after the game. That is the immediate reaction that Samardzija had to the play. Not to mention all the other factors that go into, but yeah that is clearly the deal with Samardzija is if you hit a homerun you get hit the next time up.

I said 50/50 I never once said in a calm state he was "for sure" throwing at him. I look at the coincidence with heyward as well, was it just coincidence? Im not jeff so I dont know what he was thinking. we have no clue what goes on down on the field as far as words being said and so on. again not accusing just saying 50/50

 

[Rice Cube]

Iam just messin with u bro..

There are actually a bunch of good articles and blog posts out there about why the Cubs have sucked ass for so long, and most of it really is their own fault.