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Interesting.

We cut bait with a no hit, good D outfielder and signed another.

But seriously I am ok with this.
 

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No, I doubt that. They would have to give up some good ones but not top notch. The A's dont want to pay Murphy arbitration. They are moving him. Unless a team goes over board, he can be had.
I’d say one of your top 5 prospects and one of your top 10 prospects at the very least.
 

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Bellinger wanting that one year prove it deal, as Silence referenced, matched up with the Cubs wanting a bridge to PCA.

Hope he hits.

He had 19 HRs in ‘22 and was 3rd in outs above average on D. He’ll be a good fit for a year.
 
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Interesting.

We cut bait with a no hit, good D outfielder and signed another.

But seriously I am ok with this.

He has been, but if he can even get back to his first 2 seasons, he's well worth the money and chance.
 

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OK, Jed, get Correa signed before Judge signs with San Francisco and the Yankees have money to throw at someone else.
 

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Bellinger wanting that one year prove it deal, as Silence referenced, matched up with the Cubs wanting a bridge to PCA.

Hope he hits.

He had 19 HRs in ‘22 and was 3rd in outs above average on D. He’ll be a good fit for a year.
He is banking on his shoulder injury lingering which caused the down season. Also, no shifts this year like before which teams majorly shifted on him. It was the smart move to do only one year at his age.
 

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I think I read somewhere where Bellinger got hurt big time by the shift....that's probably his big betting marker. We'll see....
 

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Bellinger is a good signing. He stinks it’s a one year deal. He bounces back you flip him for a fortune as a rental. Cubs aren’t a playoff team even if Bellinger puts up MVP numbers again and Bellinger isn’t signing an extension mid season.

Cubs aren’t in on Correa or anyone that will want 200-300 million regardless of what is being leaked in the media. The Bellinger signing is what you should expect. Flippable assets that can bridge the gap to the stockpile of prospects percolating through the minors. The Cubs are still in asset acquiring mode. That doesn’t mean they can’t spend money or the payroll will remain flat. Ricketts has green lighted using more money to go after flippable candidates to get additional cost-controlled assets. That’s an advantage the Cubs have over other teams that are rebuilding. They have deep pockets.
 

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Bellinger is a good signing. He stinks it’s a one year deal. He bounces back you flip him for a fortune as a rental. Cubs aren’t a playoff team even if Bellinger puts up MVP numbers again and Bellinger isn’t signing an extension mid season.

Cubs aren’t in on Correa or anyone that will want 200-300 million regardless of what is being leaked in the media. The Bellinger signing is what you should expect. Flippable assets that can bridge the gap to the stockpile of prospects percolating through the minors. The Cubs are still in asset acquiring mode. That doesn’t mean they can’t spend money or the payroll will remain flat. Ricketts has green lighted using more money to go after flippable candidates to get additional cost-controlled assets. That’s an advantage the Cubs have over other teams that are rebuilding. They have deep pockets.
Pretty sure you're wrong. I guess we'll see soon enough
 

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Bellinger is a good signing. He stinks it’s a one year deal. He bounces back you flip him for a fortune as a rental. Cubs aren’t a playoff team even if Bellinger puts up MVP numbers again and Bellinger isn’t signing an extension mid season.

Cubs aren’t in on Correa or anyone that will want 200-300 million regardless of what is being leaked in the media. The Bellinger signing is what you should expect. Flippable assets that can bridge the gap to the stockpile of prospects percolating through the minors. The Cubs are still in asset acquiring mode. That doesn’t mean they can’t spend money or the payroll will remain flat. Ricketts has green lighted using more money to go after flippable candidates to get additional cost-controlled assets. That’s an advantage the Cubs have over other teams that are rebuilding. They have deep pockets.
So…. You are simultaneously touting their deep pockets while saying they won’t spend?
 

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The Cubs are officially the first team to drop in the draft due to the lottery.

Meanwhile how many extra picks will mlb give the Cardinals for Yadi retiring?
 

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So…. You are simultaneously touting their deep pockets while saying they won’t spend?
No, I’m saying they are unlikely to commit 200-300 million to someone over 10 years at present. That doesn’t mean they won’t give someone 20 million for a season which they just did with Bellinger. Short vs long term commitment.
 

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No, I’m saying they are unlikely to commit 200-300 million to someone over 10 years at present. That doesn’t mean they won’t give someone 20 million for a season which they just did with Bellinger. Short vs long term commitment.

Bellinger is not a good comparison as he wasn't looking for a long term deal. And 200M over 10 years is a pretty good deal for a team if a player is that length of contract level. Until a CBA stops really long contracts, players are going to demand them and there will be teams willing to give them. They committed nearly 200M and 8 years to Heyward when they wanted make a title run. Wasn't the best deal, but they did get that title. Correa is entering an age 29 season so a 10 year deal would presumably have 6-7 really good years before typical decline occurred. You either serious about being a contender or you're the Brewers.
 

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