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Well, maybe Mcnutt had better control. That was awhile ago but the Cubs had a choice between Mcnutt and Archer and chose to give away Archer. Like I said, 50/50 t the time.
 

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F/A RF:

Norichika Aoki (33)
Tyler Colvin (29)
Nelson Cruz (34)
Michael Cuddyer (36)
Chris Denorfia (34)
Jeff Francoeur (31)
Scott Hairston (35)
Torii Hunter (39)
Nick Markakis (31) – $17.5MM mutual option with a $2MM buyout
Alex Rios (34) – $13.5MM club option with a $1MM buyout
Nate Schierholtz (31)
Ichiro Suzuki (41)

Left Fielders

Melky Cabrera (30)
Chris Denorfia (34)
Jonny Gomes (34)
Tony Gwynn Jr. (32)
Scott Hairston (35)
Reed Johnson (38)
Ryan Ludwick (36) – $9MM mutual option with a $4.5MM buyout
Darnell McDonald (35)
Mike Morse (33)
Seth Smith (32)
Alfonso Soriano (39)
Vernon Wells (36)
Josh Willingham (36)
Delmon Young (29)

Center Fielders

Emilio Bonifacio (30)
Franklin Gutierrez (32)
Colby Rasmus (28)
Grady Sizemore (32)
Denard Span (31) – $9MM club option with a $500K buyout
Chris Young (31)

Going by what they have under control:

LF: Lake/Cog
CF: Sweeney
RF: Ruggiano/Kalish

Baez has had no reps at 3B. I do not see it.

Bryant has not been moved off of 3B. But looking at that list of RF. Nothing looks good.
LF: One I like is Seth Smith. .290/.398/.524

Now just musing this for a second.

Say they offer him a 3 year deal to play LF. So 32-34 yo age span. Offer around 30 mil. He has made 11.829 mil to date.

Line up then:

CF: Alcantara
SS: Castro
1B: Rizzo
RF: Bryant
LF: Smith
2B: Baez
3B: Valbuena
C: Castillo

So that adds 10 mil per in LF and give a 3 year window for Schwarber to develop. It also give some flexibility if Soler finally gets it together. Bryant slides back to 3B after Valbuena hits F/A.

Next SP:

I would spend on an ace. I would go after Lester and run Arrieta #2.
After Jackson gets off of the books if Edwards has proven good and stable then promote him. If not sign another F/A.

The should be spending on the rotation. Adding a bat to bridge the gap to a player is fine but it is pointless to sign players long term to block quality prospects.
 

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Schwarber 1 for 3. Hitting .400 now.
Hannemann played CF. 3 for 4. 1 3B. BA at .250 now. Looks like he is befitting from Schwarber just like the hitters in Iowa are benefiting from Bryant in the line up.

Some players have that kinda effect on their teams.

Just look at Vitters.
Apr .215
May .200
June .306.

Big difference here.

Also Baez has improved. Having a bat like Bryant takes all of the pressure off of him to be the man. Now he is putting it together.
 

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Speaking of Hanneman:

Like him.

256 AB: 26 BB, 62 SO. 2.38 SO per BB. Not bad.
10% BB rate. 24.2% SO rate.
19 SB.

So over all decent speed. Solid baseball skills.
23 YO. So if they keep him at this pace he would be 27 when he promotes.
He is not a bad option for the OF and a lead off if they could crunch some of his years. Like promote him and Schwarber to Daytona soon and have them start in Tenn and split the year at Iowa. That would cut 2 years off his development. His strike zone mastery shows that he should develop fine.

If he snags then I wouldn't think he will end up anything more than OF depth. The cream rises to the top.
 

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CHICAGO –- The Futures Game rosters were announced Tuesday, and two Chicago Cubs prospects headline a loaded field of minor league talent. Third baseman Kris Bryant and shortstop Javier Baez, his teammate at Triple-A Iowa, earned the honor for the Cubs.

Bryant was promoted to Iowa this past week and has already managed to hit five home runs (with a robust .952 slugging percentage) in just six games. Bryant merited the call-up after putting up a .355/.458/.702 line with 22 home runs and 20 doubles in 68 games in Double-A. The flaws in the tall slugger’s game are his questionable defense at third and his high strikeout rate (he has 86 over two levels this season), but he more than makes up for those with his elite power.

Although the strikeouts will likely always be part of his game, many talent evaluators believe the combination of Bryant’s makeup, work ethic and advanced approach at the plate will mitigate those issues and help him adjust more quickly than the average talent as he makes his way to the big leagues.

After tearing through two levels this past season, Baez has struggled at Triple-A this season. He is hitting just .229 with only 18 walks, compared to 91 strikeouts. Even with the slow start, however, Baez, who might be the best power hitter in the minor leagues, does have 11 home runs and is slugging a respectable .424. After suffering a rough first 29 games, in which he posted a line of .145/.230/255 while striking out in 36.9 percent of his at-bats, Baez has slowly started to turn things around.

In his past 37 games, Baez is still striking out a lot (31.1 percent of the time), but when he has made contact, he has done damage, and he has delivered a strong .894 OPS with eight of his home runs in that span. Although it’s his elite bat speed and awe-inspiring home run power that should carry him to the majors, Baez continues to hone his aggressive approach. With Triple-A pitchers unwilling to throw him fastballs in the zone, the young shortstop is starting to learn to wait for his pitch, instead of chasing and trying to send every offering 500 feet.

Baez will play for the World team, while Bryant will represent Team USA. Both managed to find themselves in the top 10 of Keith Law’s midseason top 50 prospects list earlier this month.

Also considered likely to represent the Cubs were second baseman Arismendy Alcantara, who has recently seen some time in the outfield, and pitcher Kyle Hendricks. Both are having strong seasons at Triple-A and could make an appearance at Wrigley in the second half of the season (as could Baez). However, the star power provided by Baez and Bryant was clearly too much to pass up.

The Futures Game will be held Sunday, July 13, at Target Field in Minneapolis.

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/cubs/
 

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@BleacherNation: Kyle Schwarber is the Kris Bryant of Low-A, probably. Just went deep for the sixth time this year (second with Kane County).

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Depends if Baez lights up after working with Manny or not. Manny was known as a video room/batting cage freak who put in long hours every day.

If anything it will teach Baez that every one at this level has talent. Now he has to bust his but to become better.

I think we get wrapped up too much with the alogations. Fact is Manny got to where he is by hard work and yes he cheated with the rest of them. Even playing field.

That bothers me little. Most of the league was dirty so the playing field was still even. Not like 1 or 2 were just cheating to break some records. They were cheating to keep their jobs due to the next guy was cheating to get his job.
 

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For what it worth. ..
Heard an interview with bryant on radio, he mentioned how his dad coached Manny and niw he gonna get to be coached by Manny. .

Was just wondering to myself if that had a play in Manny joining Iowa...

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CHICAGO -- Right-hander Dallas Beeler, who has been pitching this season at Triple-A Iowa, will be added to the Cubs' roster Saturday to start the first game of a doubleheader against the Nationals.

Beeler, who turned 25 on June 12, is 5-3 with a 4.03 ERA in 10 starts at Iowa this season, striking out 43 while walking 15 over 60 1/3 innings.

"All the guys showed very well this spring," Cubs manager Rick Renteria said Wednesday. "I think he's a kid who everybody is looking forward to having an opportunity to show what he can do."

Beeler was a 41st-round pick in the 2010 First-Year Player Draft. In his last start Monday against Albuquerque, he gave up three runs on four hits and two walks over six innings.

"Having the doubleheader, you have the opportunity to have another pitcher," Renteria said. "We just felt it behooved us to bring someone who has been starting right now. It doesn't hurt us to have Beeler come up and be seen and put forth his efforts for us at this time."

Teams are allowed to add a 26th player for day-night doubleheaders without having to make an additional roster move.
 

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So far tonight thru six, Javier Baez is 3-4 with 2 doubles, an RBI and 2 runs scored.

Bryant is 1-3 with a RBI and his average is up to .269.

Alcantara is 1-4 with a double and a run scored.
 

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Schwarber: BTW has been playing LF only sense his promotion.
Season: 42 AB. .524/.580/1.095 Combined. 5 HR 14 RBI's.

Bryant last year:
128 AB's .336/.390/.688 9 HR 32 RBI's.

He has a good chance to match Bryant's first year production.

So what I'm wondering is why the scouts felt he was mid-late first round talent. He is looking like a stud in the making.
 

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Schwarber: BTW has been playing LF only sense his promotion.
Season: 42 AB. .524/.580/1.095 Combined. 5 HR 14 RBI's.

Bryant last year:
128 AB's .336/.390/.688 9 HR 32 RBI's.

He has a good chance to match Bryant's first year production.

So what I'm wondering is why the scouts felt he was mid-late first round talent. He is looking like a stud in the making.

Liability on defense. Even though he is more athletic then Volgelbach, he is not a very good defensive player in any aspect. He also was never going to stay at catcher for most scouts. That dropped his value. They all knew he could hit, but he basically has one defensive position he can play and being one dimensional doesnt rank you to high in drafts.
 

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Liability on defense. Even though he is more athletic then Volgelbach, he is not a very good defensive player in any aspect. He also was never going to stay at catcher for most scouts. That dropped his value. They all knew he could hit, but he basically has one defensive position he can play and being one dimensional doesnt rank you to high in drafts.

Rather have a plus bat in LF vs a "projection"
 

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With regard to Schwarber, many weren't even sure he could play LF and most thought C was a pipe dream. Typically speaking, players that go high in the draft tend to be pitchers and middle of the field players(C, SS, CF) because SS often move to 3B, and worse defensive SS move to 2B. 3B who can't stick move to RF and worse 3B move to LF or 1B.

Just as an example of this A.J. Reed was a 1B who crushed college pitching went 42nd overall. Vogelbach is another case of a guy who could clearly hit that dropped because of his fit. I'm not saying it's necessarily logical or right. It's just what happens.
 

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Some guy broke down the first 3 months of baseball into two halves for our minors. Also, Jason Parks is going to rank Alcantara higher then Soler and Almora in the mid season top 50. He will be in the top 30.

Baez
Pre 5/15: 114 PA, .147/.237/.265/.502, 38% K%, 9% BB%
Since 5/15: 156 PA, .287/.321/.538/.859, 31% K%, 5% BB%

Alcantara
Pre 5/15: 142 PA, .261/.279/.448/.727, 27% K%, 3% BB%
Since 5/15: 159 PA, .317/.386/.585/.971, 19% K%, 10% BB% (wow)

Bryant
Pre 5/15: 167 PA, .324/.425/.620/1.045, 28% K%, 12% BB%
Since 5/15: 154 PA, .370/.474/.835/1.309, 26% K%, 17% BB% (lol)

Bruno
Pre 5/15: 143 PA, .317/.413/.528/.941, 19% K%, 6% BB%, 8% HBP%
Since 5/15: 80 PA, .264/.313/.333/.646, 19% K%, 6% BB%, 1% HBP% (eek)

Almora
Pre 5/15: 136 PA, .258/.287/.383/.670, 11% K%, 3% BB%
Since 5/15: 144 PA, .250/.263/.278/.541, 13% K%, 2% BB% (gross)

Vogelbach
Pre 5/15: 144 PA, .242/.319/.320/.639, 17% K%, 10% BB%
Since 5/15: 155 PA, .299/.400/.530/.930, 18% K%, 12% BB%

Hannemann
Pre 5/15: 153 PA, .218/.307/.323/.630, 25% K%, 9% BB%
Since 5/15: 149 PA, .285/.349/.420/.769, 16% K%, 9% BB%

Remillard
Pre 5/15: 99 PA, .360/.433/.523/.956, 12% K%, 9% BB%
Since 5/15: 39 PA, .222/.282/.250/.532, 18% K%, 8% BB% (yikes)
 
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