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.328 OBA. I prefer true OBA not weighted stats.

Regardless .350 OBA would be ideal as a 1/2 hitter.

Castro is a 7/8 hitter in a quality line up. He can pick up some RBI's.
 

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I see him in limbo with Brett Jackson and Josh Vitters. But 1B is the likely spot.

Normal line up for Iowa:

Szczur CF
Jackson LF
Baez 2B
Bryant 3B
Valaika SS
Lopez C
Vitters 1B
Kalish RF
P

With Soler promoted it should push out Kalish's .208 BA out of RF.
Vitters .202 BA Jackson .217 BA I see a cut happening here.
Brett Jackson and josh vitters just need to be released already. ..

Id like to see olt and lake work with manny from now til sept , then get a call up and get some ABs in..
Both play in winterball
 

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.328 OBA. I prefer true OBA not weighted stats.

Regardless .350 OBA would be ideal as a 1/2 hitter.

Castro is a 7/8 hitter in a quality line up. He can pick up some RBI's.

I want to see where his walk rate goes. Its up 6.7% which is by far a career high. If he can get up to 8 or so percent, he could probably bat anywhere in the lineup. He is about to get hot again. He just missed a tater last night and was robbed of a single in his last at bat. He has been walking extremely well all month. He keeps that up along with his hits and he could literally get plugged into any spot.
 

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I want to see where his walk rate goes. Its up 6.7% which is by far a career high. If he can get up to 8 or so percent, he could probably bat anywhere in the lineup. He is about to get hot again. He just missed a tater last night and was robbed of a single in his last at bat. He has been walking extremely well all month. He keeps that up along with his hits and he could literally get plugged into any spot.

I see it as a progression.

Right now he slots as a 4 hitter but when Soler/Baez/Bryant come up he is not a 4 hitter.

As far as his BB% is concerned he is in the same boat as Alcantara. Alcantara still has his speed so he takes priority.

But in BB% career:
Soler: 11.3%
Bryant: 14%
Baez: 7%
Alcantara: 8.1%

Rizzo: 12.4%
Castro: 5.6%

As time goes on it becomes worse for Castro:
Russell: 12.5%

At 5.6% he holds the lowest BB out of the projection.

I hate to say it but he most likely become trade goods and for good reason.
 

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Baez 2 for 3 with 2 RBI's and 2 BB

Bryant 1 for 4 with 3 RBI's and a HBP
 

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Javier Baez since 6/24: 12.6% BB rate, 20.4% K rate. .309/.385/.574. Yeah, I think he's figuring it out.
 

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IOWA going to have a nice middle of order now with Baez Bryant and Soler.. damn the possibilities if those 3 hit the way their showing on the major league level with Rizzo and castro along with Alcantara..
 

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IOWA going to have a nice middle of order now with Baez Bryant and Soler.. damn the possibilities if those 3 hit the way their showing on the major league level with Rizzo and castro along with Alcantara..

WORLD SERIES!!!!

Wait...... Will we have pitching? Or are we just going to try and out score the other teams by 15?
 

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WORLD SERIES!!!!

Wait...... Will we have pitching? Or are we just going to try and out score the other teams by 15?
Everyone worried about pitching...

Not gonna take much to put together a 5 man rotation..

Their already 3/5 of the way there with Arrieta, Wood, and Hendricks

Trade and or FA could net 2 more

1. Trade/FA
2. Trade/FA
3. Arrieta
4. Wood
5. Hendricks

Their gonna find a way to move jackson this off season
 

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@daytonacubs: He does it again an inning later! @DanielVogelbach hits 2nd bomb to left-center to put DAY up 5-0. 1st multi HR game for #Cubs this year.
 

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Everyone worried about pitching...

Not gonna take much to put together a 5 man rotation..

Their already 3/5 of the way there with Arrieta, Wood, and Hendricks

Trade and or FA could net 2 more

1. Trade/FA
2. Trade/FA
3. Arrieta
4. Wood
5. Hendricks

Their gonna find a way to move jackson this off season
Finding that way to move Jackson will likely mean eating some of the contract. I'm OK with that, but it isn't my money.
 

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Epstein talks Soler, Almora, Olt, deadline
July, 23, 2014

By Sahadev Sharma
Special to ESPNChicago.com



CHICAGO -- With a flurry of activity Tuesday night, Chicago Cubs president of baseball operations Theo Epstein addressed the media on Wednesday about those moves and other issues facing the team.

Epstein on why the Cubs felt it was time to move outfield prospect Jorge Soler up to Triple-A Iowa from Double-A Tennessee, where he was 415/.494/.862 in 22 games:

"With Soler, we talked about how he really looked like he was on a mission. He came off the DL without missing a beat; it was really remarkable for him to not show any signs of rust. In fact, the opposite. “Now is my time” is what he said when he was ready to come off the DL. And he just went out and kind of made a statement. It wasn’t just the numbers, but it was the quality of at-bats he was having. He was laying off tough breaking pitches, he wasn’t being overaggressive when pitchers weren’t giving him pitches to hit. He was doing a much better job of getting the ball in the air, leveraging the baseball. He hit a lot of balls hard in the past, but they’d been on the ground or hard line drives down the third-base line. Now that he’s on time and he’s feeling comfortable at the plate, he’s using the entire ballpark. He’s hitting balls out to straightaway-left field, he’s hitting balls out to right-center and he’s getting balls in the air. When you’re as strong as he is, you hit the ball as hard as he does and you can manage an at-bat as well as he does, hitting the ball in the air is a good thing and the results are going to come after that. He’s just not getting pitched to there, and he’s on a mission and we think that Triple-A is the appropriate level for him to be challenged."

Epstein on questions about Soler’s maturity and makeup:

"I think he’s always been a pretty mature kid. I think a lot of people rush to judgment with respect to his on-field makeup because of what they saw in the fall league. That’s when a lot of scouts saw Soler for the first time and he was playing hurt. He was just coming back from the stress fracture, and we asked him to take it easy on his leg. So a lot of scouts saw him jogging to first base, walking out to his position at times, and that was done in an effort to protect his leg. Now that he’s healthy, he’s playing with a little more passion. He’s on a mission. To that extent, we’ve been impressed with how he’s taken responsibility for his own development, taken accountability for being on the field and for getting where he wants to be. He basically told us, “It’s my time, watch me,” and he’s gone out and done it. And done it not only with results, but done it in a way that’s gotten our attention. And we’re rewarding him, because he looks like he’s on a mission to get to the big leagues."

Epstein on the promotion of center fielder Albert Almora from Hi-A Daytona to Tennessee after he started to turn things around with a .988 OPS in his past 27 games:

"We’ve been walking a fine line with Albert, much like with Starlin [Castro]. We asked him to focus on pitches he can drive. Instead of just being aggressive for the sake of being aggressive, be aggressive on pitches you can drive. And he really started doing that. It doesn’t always manifest in his walk totals. That’s fine. That’ll come with time to a certain extent. But he’s being more aggressive on pitches he can drive. And because of that he’s hitting the ball with more authority, he’s hitting with power and he’s had a fantastic last month. And he’s the type of player who I think plays up to the level of competition and rises to a challenge. He’s played with guys older than him his entire career, amateur and professional. We think this is a nice challenge for him. Sort of write a different story for his 2014 season. He has a chance to have a really productive development year after getting off to a tough start for a lot of different reasons."

Epstein on the demotion of third baseman Mike Olt after he produced a slash line of .139/.222/.353 in 72 games with 12 home runs and struck out in 39.6 percent of his plate appearances:

"Mike actually took the news extraordinarily well. He acknowledges that he’s gotten into a few bad habits at the plate -- bad habits that he couldn’t break out of at the big league level, especially playing sporadically. I think playing every day will be good for him. And we think that he’s got a chance to right himself just by playing every day -- being a little bit more relaxed, taking some of the things he’s practicing in the cage into the game with him and righting himself and getting back up here. I think it was the appropriate move at the appropriate time. He handled the news well, and I think he looks at it as an opportunity."

Epstein on the upcoming trade deadline:

"We certainly made our big move already; that one came on July 4. We’re not in a rush to make moves. Obviously if there’s a chance to acquire talent that could help us in the future, we’re always interested in that. At the same time, especially with the players we control beyond this year, we have to factor into the calculus how well those players fit in going forward. How well they fit into the clubhouse, what they can do for us on the field, how they mesh with the next generation of talent that might be coming up, especially for complimentary-type players. There’s value to keeping players who have roles here for the sake of continuity, leadership and performance on the field. Especially the players we control beyond this year, we’re not in any rush to make trades for the sake of making trades. The guys who are free agents at the end of the year, obviously there’s a lot of talk about those kinds of players this time of year. We’ll see what happens."

Epstein on the St. Louis Cardinals once again receiving a competitive balance draft pick:

"I could talk all day about the Cardinals and how we hold them in high regard. That’s a fantastic franchise. They have been for the better part of a century. They do extremely well from a baseball standpoint and from a revenue standpoint. It’s probably the last organization in baseball that needs that kind of annual gift that they receive. It’ll just make it that much sweeter when we get to a point where we can compete with them and ultimately, we hope, prevail. It’s not necessarily the type of thing they need, given their performance on the field and off the field. They do a fantastic job, and it just doesn’t seem like something they need at this point."
 

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Corey Black might be getting promoted to Iowa.
 

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Brett Jackson and josh vitters just need to be released already. ..

Id like to see olt and lake work with manny from now til sept , then get a call up and get some ABs in..
Both play in winterball

I think it is too early to give up on these two guys, so I do hope they get a lot of AB's in AAA and hopefully work things out.

Lake has power and speed, but no clue. Why don't the Cubs, for starters, just work with his speed? Use him like other teams use speed guys, and stop trying to hit the ball 500 feet!

Olt? Who knows? The guy was a top prospect, has a high HR per AB rate, and absolutely can't hit a lick. What went wrong?

But one thing I don't want to see is these two coming up in Sept. and getting AB's. There aren't enough AB's to go around that last month. I want to see Baez, Alcantara and Soler getting AB's, not Olt and Lake.
 
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