Cubs release Silva / signs minor league deal w/ Yankees

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Had he been given the chance to start in April, yes I do believe its possible.

So you feel that even though Cashner beat him out, which even CO admitted he did, that they should have let him start just because of the off chance that they may be able to get a C-level prospect for him?
 

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Financially speaking you should understand where I am coming from.

Financially, they may have spent 2 million more by not trading him. It isn't that much to a big company/organization like an MLB team.
 

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So you feel that even though Cashner beat him out, which even CO admitted he did, that they should have let him start just because of the off chance that they may be able to get a C-level prospect for him?

It's more of the financial standpoint. If we could save even 2 million dollars it is a lot better of a deal.
 

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Financially speaking you should understand where I am coming from.

I dont work in the front office nor am I an insider with the team, but to think that they flat out released him because of what he said, etc etc etc is crazy. It is considered a loss on the bottom line yes, but there are other reasons that none of know about which caused this release.
 

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What? How do you spend more by not trading him? What?

:obama:

They spent 8 Million to release him.
They eat some of the money, but do not all of it, so maybe they would pay 6 Million.

8-6=2

:obama:

By releasing him, not trading him, they spent more than they would had they traded him.

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plus what would you get in a trade? seriously. a low a prospect....but typical for some fans to think the world of their roster and their worth.
 

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plus what would you get in a trade? seriously. a low a prospect....but typical for some fans to think the world of their roster and their worth.

Cubs would be the only team fooled after a guy was good for one month anyway, so we still wouldn't get anything in return by letting him pitch for one month anyway, it would probably take until at least June.
 

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:obama:

They spent 8 Million to release him.
They eat some of the money, but do not all of it, so maybe they would pay 6 Million.

8-6=2

:obama:

By releasing him, not trading him, they spent more than they would had they traded him.

:obama:

Calm down bro, it was a question. I misread what you put. But if we had traded him right now, we don't even know if a team would have picked up anything. Just chill.


plus what would you get in a trade? seriously. a low a prospect....but typical for some fans to think the world of their roster and their worth.

Money. We would get money.
 

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Calm down bro, it was a question. I misread what you put. But if we had traded him right now, we don't even know if a team would have picked up anything. Just chill.




Money. We would get money
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do you think teams would pay most of that salary. cmon now. you are smarter than that.
 

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Calm down bro, it was a question. I misread what you put. But if we had traded him right now, we don't even know if a team would have picked up anything. Just chill.




Money. We would get money.

"I'm pissed because you can't read." (CO to Jntg4 earlier) :shifty:

Not enough money to deter a major league baseball team in a big-market from releasing someone.
 

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"I'm pissed because you can't read." (CO to Jntg4 earlier) :shifty:

Not enough money to deter a major league baseball team in a big-market from releasing someone.

I have had to explain to you at least 3 times that no one is arguing that Silva wasn't beat in ST.

Yes, it is enough money. Releasing a player is flat out Special person unless they are worth a negative amount. Silva isn't.
 

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I have had to explain to you at least 3 times that no one is arguing that Silva wasn't beat in ST.

Yes, it is enough money. Releasing a player is flat out Special person unless they are worth a negative amount. Silva isn't.

No, you release him if he has no minor league options, refuses a minor league assignment, and was beat out.

First, he was beat out as a starter, which we all know.
Then, he was beat out as a reliever.
Then, he was given an option to go to the minors as insurance, which is all he would be to us anyway.
Then, he refused.

That all equals release.
 

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No, you release him if he has no minor league options, refuses a minor league assignment, and was beat out.

First, he was beat out as a starter, which we all know.
Then, he was beat out as a reliever.
Then, he was given an option to go to the minors as insurance, which is all he would be to us anyway.
Then, he refused.

That all equals release.

Yes, he was beaten out as a starter and questionably as a reliever, but is the difference between Silva and Cashner and Silva and Mateo enough to warrant wasting 8 million dollars? The answer to that question is no, it's not.
 

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Yes, he was beaten out as a starter and questionably as a reliever, but is the difference between Silva and Cashner and Silva and Mateo enough to warrant wasting 8 million dollars? The answer to that question is no, it's not.

Not wasting 8 million. Even if we did get a taker, we'd still be paying at least 6 million. We are essentially wasting 2 million, and you are overreacting to it.

If we aren't competing like you say, then that is more reason to let Cashner start from the beginning of the season and get rid of Silva when we did. Then Cashner gets MLB starting experience in a situation with less pressure.
 

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Not wasting 8 million. Even if we did get a taker, we'd still be paying at least 6 million. We are essentially wasting 2 million, and you are overreacting to it.

If we aren't competing like you say, then that is more reason to let Cashner start from the beginning of the season and get rid of Silva when we did. Then Cashner gets MLB starting experience in a situation with less pressure.

It most certainly is wasting 8 million dollars. Spending 8 million dollars on nothing is wasting 8 million dollars.

If we had a taker, we would also at least have gotten some performance out of Silva.

Cashner will still get his IP, but we might as well try to save some money. Since when can you measure how much pressure a pitcher is under in certain situations?
 

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