Cubs vs Brewers IGT

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Speedy player and 8 double plays don't really make sense to whoever this Brewers announcer is i'm listening to.

Barney not really a speedy player. Avg or maybe just slight above avg speed.
 

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Darwin Barney is amazingly bad at hitting baseballs.
 

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He is bad at hitting. He does a number of things well and has use when he is making the league minimum. He isn't a building block or a cornerstone player, but he does provide value to this team.

What does Soriano do well? Only single thing I can think of is he has a good arm in the outfield. Aside from that he is bad. very very bad
 

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What does Soriano do well? Only single thing I can think of is he has a good arm in the outfield. Aside from that he is bad. very very bad

he talking about Barney i believe.
 

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I'm tellin' ya, Byrd is the best all-around player on this team. Pena comes in 2nd.

Then probably Castro...
 

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Speedy player and 8 double plays don't really make sense to whoever this Brewers announcer is i'm listening to.
Barney hits the ball on the ground a lot. That is why he has so many double plays.
dont think he a bad hitter. Basically just a Theriot JR.
It depends on what you mean as a hitter. If you are talking about the ability to make contact and hit for an average, then Barney isn't a bad hitter. If you are talking about any of the other skills that make a hitter useful (hitting for power, working the count, high OBP, etc.) he isn't a good hitter. Theriot is an interesting comparison because they are probably worth about the same as a ballplayer it is just their value comes from slightly different skills.
Barney not really a speedy player. Avg or maybe just slight above avg speed.
That is important as well. Barney is far from a speedster. He isn't slow, but he doesn't have blazing speed either. When you combine that with hitting the ball on the ground all the time it adds up to a lot of double plays.
 

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he talking about Barney i believe.

Well just before Barneys, injury himself and Castro were the top hitting middle infielding pair in the NL. He is a young player. Hate on the old players playing like shit not the young players who can actually improve.
 

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What does Soriano do well? Only single thing I can think of is he has a good arm in the outfield. Aside from that he is bad. very very bad

I was talking about Barney. Soriano's value is solely dependent on his ability to occasionally hit the ball very far. That on a team that is largely devoid of power is a useful skill however. No one is arguing that Soriano is a great player or a great value, but the idea that he is main or the biggest reason this team sucks as much as it does is wrong.
 

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Well just before Barneys, injury himself and Castro were the top hitting middle infielding pair in the NL. He is a young player. Hate on the old players playing like shit not the young players who can actually improve.

Barney is 25 years old. We aren't talking about a guy that has a ton of room for growth. It isn't like Barney is likely to get any bigger, at least naturally, to add any power or suddenly learn to work the count at this age or develop Tony Campana speed. And without any one of those features to add to his game he is a useful player while cheap, but he isn't likely to get much better than what he is right now. That isn't hating on the player. It is an honest assessment of his abilities.
 

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I'm tellin' ya, Byrd is the best all-around player on this team. Pena comes in 2nd.

Then probably Castro...

A-Ram is best Cub player right now. Byrd is over rated in my opinion. He just AVG at everything.
 

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Shark looked good that inning. Strikes out the side
 

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Well just before Barneys, injury himself and Castro were the top hitting middle infielding pair in the NL. He is a young player. Hate on the old players playing like shit not the young players who can actually improve.

Barney Isn't young.

And he really sucks.
 

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that was a huge addition for MIL getting K-Rod....Hawkins, K-Rod, and Axford nice 7-9 for MIL
 

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Barney Isn't young.

And he really sucks.

He not old either. still only 25 and for rookie to be hitting over .300 is good. Im not saying he a future all star but he dont suck. i still see him as a really good utitilty player on a winning team.
 

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He not old either. still only 25 and for rookie to be hitting over .300 is good. Im not saying he a future all star but he dont suck. i still see him as a really good utitilty player on a winning team.

Best case scenario he is Craig counsell with a better average an worse obp.
 
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