Cubs vs Indians 6/15 - 6/18

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chibears55 said:
Wow.. 17 runs

They better not struggle for runs tomorrow. ..
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What we are seeing is what this team could be like. This is with out Baez, Montero and Soler in the line up. Pretty scary what the potential is for this team.
 

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Whew! Got those seven insurance runs we needed to be able to use Schlitter.
 

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OK. I take it back. Maybe Schwarber won;t go back down Sunday, because this is a fact: Cubs are averaging 17 runs per game in games started by Kyle Schwarber.
 
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TL1961 said:
Whew! Got those seven insurance runs we needed to be able to use Schlitter.
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Schliter was sent down when Schwarber was promoted. IDK, Cogland has been hitting .287 over the last month. His BA has bumped up to .251 now. So that is a .050 rise in a month. It is not like he has just had a 10 game hot streak, but more of a prolonged stint.

I could see Schwarber demoted with Soler promoted after the series. To be honest I would be surprised if they did not do it. Still it will bring up the debate for sure.
 

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CSF77 said:
Schliter was sent down when Schwarber was promoted. IDK, Cogland has been hitting .287 over the last month. His BA has bumped up to .251 now. So that is a .050 rise in a month. It is not like he has just had a 10 game hot streak, but more of a prolonged stint.

I could see Schwarber demoted with Soler promoted after the series. To be honest I would be surprised if they did not do it. Still it will bring up the debate for sure.
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Schwarber is going down Sunday. Coghlan is doing pretty well. Hope to see Soler - and a rediscovered batting eye - in the lineup soon.
 
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Due to the time difference is haven't watched this and can't til after work tonight. I will be back later with comments and probably questions
 
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CSF77 said:
I know that. But 4 for 5 today. Again I said if he rakes 4 HR's and 15 RBI's while hitting .400 it will make anyone think it over. No way that Theo just goes robot mode.

I think he said that due to if he falls on his face vs major league pitching it wouldn't lead to him going back to AA vs AAA. No one expects a guy to just come up and dominate from AA to the majors. Could he? ya he has that skill set and maturity.

Now I could see the playing time argument and not even bringing up LF as a possible answer to the public. But internal talks you bet that has and will come up again if Schwarber keeps this up.

Too early to tell right now being just 1 good game. But if it becomes 6 very good games it makes you step back and wonder it the media will over blow it.
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I think the reasoning is because there really is no spot for him ATM. There's no point in keeping him on the team to be on the bench. Much better off allowing him to continue his development, especially defensively.
 

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TL1961 said:
Schwarber is going down Sunday. Coghlan is doing pretty well. Hope to see Soler - and a rediscovered batting eye - in the lineup soon.
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Cubs Den posted some numbers yesterday that Coghlan actually projects to a higher WAR than what Schwarber would for the rest of the season and along with that the cost of losing Schwarber's development time at C is going to make it an easy decision. I do think he'll probably see some LF in a month or so at AAA and be up again in September. The bat belongs but with his apparent vast improvement at C they're going to be very careful.
 
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Cubs Den posted some numbers yesterday that Coghlan actually projects to a higher WAR than what Schwarber would for the rest of the season and along with that the cost of losing Schwarber's development time at C is going to make it an easy decision. I do think he'll probably see some LF in a month or so at AAA and be up again in September. The bat belongs but with his apparent vast improvement at C they're going to be very careful.
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The stay might not be for long, however. President of baseball operations Theo Epstein has said that Schwarber will only stay with the team to serve as a designated hitter through this brief five-game Interleague portion of the schedule before he's sent to Triple-A to work on his defense behind the plate.
The bat is Major League ready. Scouts have said it, Epstein knows it and Schwarber knows it. Were he to play another position, perhaps he would be a Major League regular already. But Schwarber has caught his whole life, and he doesn't plan to stop now.
"It's something that I want to do, personally," Schwarber said. "If it takes more time, it takes more time. I've always done it, and I have a true passion for it."
For now, Schwarber is simply basking in the opportunity. He's 22 years old and just got four hits in his first big league start. For now, that's good enough for him.
"Some people never make it to the big leagues," Schwarber said. "I'm in the big leagues right now, so I've got to take advantage of it."
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So that pretty much spells it out. Coghlan has no bearing on Schwarber playing now or not. It has more to do with Schwarber working full time as a catcher. They are still holding true to the long term vs the short term goals.

Best statement of the day from Wada: "I am badass."
 
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Here my question with Schwarber wanting to stay at catcher,,

Miggy has 2 yrs left on his deal... he most likely ends up a .250 hitter with 20 HRs and he a plus defensive catcher with the intangible of game calling and pitch framing. . He bats LH

What do they do in 2016 with Schwarber and him ? Schwarber also LH

Do they risk it and trade Montero and go with ..gulp.. ross as backup again to tutor schwarber
 

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CSF77 said:
So that pretty much spells it out. Coghlan has no bearing on Schwarber playing now or not. It has more to do with Schwarber working full time as a catcher. They are still holding true to the long term vs the short term goals.

Best statement of the day from Wada: "I am badass."
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I think it's both things, performance out of Coghlan and the development of Schwarber at catcher. This was always going to be a balancing act and they're doing that well right now. I'm inclined to trust their judgement.
 

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chibears55 said:
Here my question with Schwarber wanting to stay at catcher,,

Miggy has 2 yrs left on his deal... he most likely ends up a .250 hitter with 20 HRs and he a plus defensive catcher with the intangible of game calling and pitch framing. . He bats LH

What do they do in 2016 with Schwarber and him ? Schwarber also LH

Do they risk it and trade Montero and go with ..gulp.. ross as backup again to tutor schwarber
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I think you see Schwarber either make the team out of ST next year or come up in the first 1/3 of the season some time depending on how he's looking at catcher. Then I think you have a 3 catcher situation with Schwarber playing maybe 3 games a week in LF and 3 times a week at C. If he looks good behind the plate they will probably move Montero either late next year of in the off season before 2017. By 2017 Schwarber is your full time catcher. Obviously that's in ideal conditions, Montero doesn't get hurt etc. but there's logic in it and it could very well work.
 
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lol Tsuyoshi Wada calling himself a badass at the encouragement of Joe Maddon is the best thing ever

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Schwarber in the middle of the scoring again.
 
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