Cubs vs. O's IST

[brett05]

I compare it to its everyday 25 based on resources. You keep missing that part

 

[brett05]

You are comparing position by position I am comparing team by team

 

[brett05]

And if you do position comparison do them all...do not cherry pick

 

[Parade_Rain]

What you are doing is a waste of time because it makes no sense from a NL team vs AL team home/away perspective. I provided all the resources necessary. The results very clearly showed the NL does not have some imaginary advantage that you seem to think they have.

 

[brett05]

What you are doing is a waste of time because it makes no sense from a NL team vs AL team home/away perspective. I provided all the resources necessary. The results very clearly showed the NL does not have some imaginary advantage that you seem to think they have.

You can not accept it all you want and refuse to argue because your side has no footing that can be brought up

The AL being dominant does not mean the NL does not gain or the AL lose.

The economics can't be argued against as far as I see

 

[Parade_Rain]

Economics don't play games. Players do.

 

[brett05]

Economics don't play games. Players do.

And the more economics you can use to players the better the teams are.

The NL does not have to use money to fund a DH. The AL does. That same money is used by the NL team in other ways that gives the NL team a distinct advantage over their AL counterpart based on the rules that are in use in IL play today.

 

[Parade_Rain]

And the more economics you can use to players the better the teams are.

The NL does not have to use money to fund a DH. The AL does. That same money is used by the NL team in other ways that gives the NL team a distinct advantage over their AL counterpart based on the rules that are in use in IL play today.

The NL uses money to fund 3/4 hitters. The AL uses money to fund 3/4 hitters. One of those 3/4 hitters is the DH. You're overthinking this big time.

 

[brett05]

You're ignoring the al lineup reduction and the nl only worried about 8 guys instead of 9

 

[Parade_Rain]

You're ignoring the al lineup reduction and the nl only worried about 8 guys instead of 9

So, IOW, even though the AL continually trounces the NL in Interleague play, you seem to continue to believe the AL is at some sort of disadvantage. Hello, McFly!

 

[brett05]

So, IOW, even though the AL continually trounces the NL in Interleague play, you seem to continue to believe the AL is at some sort of disadvantage. Hello, McFly!

You keep thinking it wouldn't be a bigger trouncing

You need to focus on the fairness and not the results

 

[Parade_Rain]

You keep thinking it wouldn't be a bigger trouncing

You need to focus on the fairness and not the results

LOL. It appears you are the only person on the forum who believes the NL has the advantage in an AL park.

 

[brett05]

Im the only one that has shown the evidence

 

[brett05]

Bad argument on your part...majority opinion is a failed debate tactic

 

[SilenceS]

No team, I repeat no team has any type of advantage at another teams park.

 

[Parade_Rain]

Im the only one that has shown the evidence

Trollin', trollin', trollin'
Brett05 keeps on trollin'
Rawhide.

 

[brett05]

No team, I repeat no team has any type of advantage at another teams park.

Sure they do. I showed the NL advantage and the AL disadvantage at opposing parks. Argue against it if there is one.

 

[brett05]

Trollin', trollin', trollin'
Brett05 keeps on trollin'
Rawhide.

Instead of admitting defeat you go to your fallback position. At times I think you are bi-polar

 

[Parade_Rain]

Instead of admitting defeat you go to your fallback position. At times I think you are bi-polar

Defeated? Lol. Your case was blown to shit by the results and you're still clinging to a silly notion that the AL blowing away the NL over the course of Interleague play is some indication that the NL has an advantage, even as visitors. That's just not defendable. You have provided ZERO evidence. You're channeling your inner Sparrow today.

 

[Parade_Rain]

Entering play Monday -- there had been 13 Interleague games played in AL ballparks -- American League DHs were hitting .340 (17-for-50) with two home runs and 12 RBIs. The DHs on NL squads had combined to hit .216 (11-for-51) with five RBIs and had yet to homer.

In 2012, AL DHs hit .253 with 18 homers during Interleague Play, compared to a .234 average and 16 long balls hit by NL designated hitters. That's not much of a difference, but as Sveum noted, AL teams employ players specifically for the DH role.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130429&content_id=46109582&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

Oh and from same article, your position about NL not being a tougher league to manage-

"As far as managing, of course, with the American League with the DH, it eliminates so much strategy," Marlins manager Mike Redmond said. "You really just sit there and try to figure out when you are going to take your pitchers in and out. In the National League, there is so much going on all the time."

More on the DH advantage at AL home parks-

Over more than 15 years of interleague baseball, the American League has had a bigger home-field advantage than the National League. A key reason may be the designated hitter.
...
"The bench guy in the National League is not a premier guy," said Manny Acta, an ESPN baseball analyst who formerly managed teams in both leagues. "He can't compete with the DH in the American League."

http://online.wsj.com/articles/why-the-al-batters-the-nl-at-home-the-dh-1405704990

Fangraph's with an article built around Leyland's comments-

Playing by different sets of rules is not inherently unfair, just as playing in different ballparks is not inherently unfair, as long as each team faces the same number of games outside of its comfort zone. A team can be built to take advantage of its home ballpark just as well as a team can be built to take advantage of the DH.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/leyland-interleague-play-unfair-with-no-dh/