Dane Brugler had Velus at WR25

[Bearly]

So funny that everyone complains about Velus's age but wanted the OT that was 5 months younger.

Raimann opted out of his Bowl game. May have hurt his draft status more than helped it.
Probably didn't make much difference. He's an interesting prospect but expect him to get walked back a lot his 1st year. He transitioned late (like Jones ) so it's understandable but here, you're asking a 24 year old to add weight and lower body strength. He does project well to LT if he makes it which is awesome for a 3rd rounder.

I remember when Spriggs got drafted by GB and I hated him as a prospect because he was basically a sink or swim at LT and not special. Useless if he couldn't hold up as a finesse LT.

Raimann needs a stronger base but it looks like he should be able to get that and be versatile enough to play a few positions if so.

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

Dont hate the pick, hate the fact he's supposed to be our #3 WR.

Marching that dude out there to run some rpo's, screens, slants every so often to keep the defense honest is great.

Expecting him to learn how to run routes against legit nfl corners in one offseason just doesn't seem realistic to me.

He's not, which is why I hate the pick

 

[playthrough2001]

He is not a natural receiver and is likely a gimmicky player in the mold of Cohen. Raimann going 5 picks later may be a decision the Bears regret.

That’s funny. He’s huge compared to Cohen. He’s more Patterson under Smith or Deebo.

He’s a good fit for this scheme too.

 

[dentfan]

He is not a natural receiver and is likely a gimmicky player in the mold of Cohen. Raimann going 5 picks later may be a decision the Bears regret.

Compared to the prospect we got in the 5th? Are you fucking kidding me?

I liked Raiman, and then I saw the dude we drafted and was like, and that’s why Poles gets paid the big bucks to do this.

The T we got has linger arms and more upside. Raiman is 25 and will need at least a year or two to develop, making him 27 before he’d be ready to start for us. There are other dudes who like to watch prospects like @remydat who didn’t think he’d be a LT. I was hoping he might. The guy we drafts blows Raiman away!

No. We will not regret losing Raiman at all. We got dudes that are better prospects than him in later rounds. Zach Tom from awake Forest? Maybe, but Raiman? Get the **** outta here with that shit.

 

[msadows]

Also, while I appreciate what brugler does, he's wrong a lot. Just like everyone is when draft time comes.

He had mitch as his #1 qb, and kizer as his #2 qb in 2017.
Shaheen was his #3 TE and nearly rated as high as Pat Mahomes

 

[msadows]

He is not a natural receiver and is likely a gimmicky player in the mold of Cohen. Raimann going 5 picks later may be a decision the Bears regret.

I feel that won't be the decision they regret.

My guess is either pickens or Moore develops into a very good dynamic NFL wideout. At that point, unless Brisker is a top 5 SS in the NFL that pick will be a giant head scratcher to me.

 

[mattb78]

Raimann opted out of his Bowl game. May have hurt his draft status more than helped it.

I think he fell because he likely needs a year of coaching before he can play. He is a natural LT. Likely not a guy that can slide inside and play early like many other tackles do so I think that is why teams passed on him because he is likely not a day 1 starter.

He graded out very high. It is very rare that a prospect with legit LT ability slides out of the 2nd.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Also, while I appreciate what brugler does, he's wrong a lot. Just like everyone is when draft time comes.

He had mitch as his #1 qb, and kizer as his #2 qb in 2017.
Shaheen was his #3 TE and nearly rated as high as Pat Mahomes






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Yep.... Brugler and everyone else (including the pros) are way more wrong every year than not. That's why dick ripping over the draft is laughable.

 

[mattb78]

I feel that won't be the decision they regret.

My guess is either pickens or Moore develops into a very good dynamic NFL wideout. At that point, unless Brisker is a top 5 SS in the NFL that pick will be a giant head scratcher to me.

Honestly I think if you get starters in the 2nd round you don't take that much heat. Michael Thomas would have been a hell of a better pick than Whitehair in 2016, but the Bears got a solid starter. It is the early to mid 1st round swing and misses that GMs never live down. Those are guys that just have to be impact players.

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

I feel that won't be the decision they regret.

My guess is either pickens or Moore develops into a very good dynamic NFL wideout. At that point, unless Brisker is a top 5 SS in the NFL that pick will be a giant head scratcher to me.

Meh, you have to handicap Moore because of Mahomes and that entire offense.

 

[mattb78]

Yep.... Brugler and everyone else (including the pros) are way more wrong every year than not.

Agreed. Its all speculation. I remember saying who the **** is Lance Briggs I have never heard of the guy. Yet I also remember being excited about the pool jumping defensive lineman Jarron Gilbert. LOL to myself.

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

And quite honestly, my bother is a big Chiefs fan and they (chiefs fans) are head scratching the Moor pick. they should have been all defense. It all comes down to value and who's there. I think poles got round 2 right.

 

[Bearly]

I think he fell because he likely needs a year of coaching before he can play. He is a natural LT. Likely not a guy that can slide inside and play early like many other tackles do so I think that is why teams passed on him because he is likely not a day 1 starter.

He graded out very high. It is very rare that a prospect with legit LT ability slides out of the 2nd.

Just added those thought as you replied. Also, the T we got in 5 has 2.5" longer arms. Obviously needs even more coaching and weight room but has a better natural T body.

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

People on these boards are straight-up expecting him to be better for the Bears as a rookie than he was for the Vols as a 6th-year player.

Please, I would urge caution. I like Jones...for what he is. He may barely contribute this year as a receiver, yet people are thinking the Bears are going to be using him like 2017-18 Tarik Cohen.


Also, I don't know if you guys heard, but every single WR taken in the draft is a Deebo Samuel type, apparently.

Tarik Cohen sucks. Most overrated player on the Bears since I started posting here.

 

[Stonewall]

If he can pick up the playbook, he will surprise people

 

[Dumpster Fire]

I'm hyped for this guy. Throw the pre-draft rankings out the window. He looks fast as **** and seems good at busting through the first tackler. Let's see what he can do.

 

[Nelly]

People on these boards are straight-up expecting him to be better for the Bears as a rookie than he was for the Vols as a 6th-year player.

Please, I would urge caution. I like Jones...for what he is. He may barely contribute this year as a receiver, yet people are thinking the Bears are going to be using him like 2017-18 Tarik Cohen.


Also, I don't know if you guys heard, but every single WR taken in the draft is a Deebo Samuel type, apparently.

Seems like he was used to the best of his abilities in Tennessee after not being so in the years leading up to that. I've gotta believe that Poles and company have plans to use him accordingly rather than try to shoehorn him into a role he doesn't project well into but I guess you never know. Then it remains to be seen if he's even any good (at the NFL level) in that role.

I don't think Christian Watson was the Deebo type. Watson is the Equinimous St. Brown type, which is why the Packers traded up to take him after losing ESB to the Bears, for sure.

 

[Toast88]

What do you mean by expecting him to be better as a rookie than he was for the Vols? If he got 800 yards he'd be a huge success. Are you saying people expect him to do better than 800 yards?

And if he barely contributes it's a bad pick.

I'm not going to put a number on it but he needs to be an actual contributing WR next year. Not just a punt returner.

Before his sixth college season, he had never gotten 300 yards in a season. Even his breakout year, he wasn't an every-down receiver. But some here are expecting him to be an impact player against NFL corners his rookie season---sure....

Not saying it'll never happen. Just, I personally am tempering my expectations on his rookie season contributions. I'd love to be pleasantly surprised.

That's all I'm saying. If he juuusst figured out how to get open against college corners, why would people think he's going to get open against NFL corners in his rookie season?

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Before his sixth college season, he had never gotten 300 yards in a season. But some here are expecting him to be an impact player against NFL corners his rookie season---sure....

Not saying it'll never happen. Just, I personally am tempering my expectations on his rookie season contributions. I'd love to be pleasantly surprised.

That's all I'm saying. If he juuusst figured out how to get open against college corners, why would people think he's going to get open against NFL corners in his rookie season?

All depends on your definition of "impact player".

 

[Toast88]

I don't think Christian Watson was the Deebo type. Watson is the Equinimous St. Brown type, which is why the Packers traded up to take him after losing ESB to the Bears, for sure.

Nah, man.

Every. Single. WR. Prospect.

'NBC Sports Analyst Thor Nystrom on how NDSU receiver Christian Watson is the Deebo Samuel of the Bison offense':

"You saw Christian Watson doing some all sorts of cool other type of things: End arounds or even in the backfield, just getting handoffs. You saw him doing some Deebo Samuel-type stuff."

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