Dane Brugler had Velus at WR25

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Nah, man.

Every. Single. WR. Prospect.

'NBC Sports Analyst Thor Nystrom on how NDSU receiver Christian Watson is the Deebo Samuel of the Bison offense':

"You saw Christian Watson doing some all sorts of cool other type of things: End arounds or even in the backfield, just getting handoffs. You saw him doing some Deebo Samuel-type stuff."

So I guess the end-around and the occasional hand-off to a wide receiver to run off tackle never happened before Deebo Samuel came into the league. Someone should tell Cordarrelle Patterson.
 

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I think Getsy loves this pick, a speed receiver who he can use in many different roles. More than anything else he is just a weapon for this offense.
 

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All depends on your definition of "impact player".
To me it means an every down guy who a) dependably moves the chains or b) has legit big play ability, or both. I think Poles took as his first offensive draft pick a guy who might or might not have some big plays in the NFL but is really an ST/role player. No way a guy who sucks at running routes is a three down rookie NFL wide receiver.

Jones has plenty of value as a late round pick but I think many would agree was a reach at 71 and would most likely have still been there to take later.

As others have said I'd be glad to be wrong about it. Also I refuse to take a for or against Poles position this absurdly early, and don't have a problem with him fixing the secondary cheaply with his first two picks.
 

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I don't think Christian Watson was the Deebo type. Watson is the Equinimous St. Brown type, which is why the Packers traded up to take him after losing ESB to the Bears, for sure.
For shits and giggles, I looked up their respective stats in college. Watson was taken in the 2nd, St. Brown in the 6th. Watson has a 9.96 RAS score, St. Brown has 9.84. St Brown's best season (in college) was 58 receptions for 961 yards and 9 TDs in 12 games in the FBS. Watson's best season was 39 receptions for 739 yards and 7 TDs in 10 games in the FCS.

In his last two years at ND (i.e. not a freshman), St. Brown had 1,476 yards and 13 TDs in 24 games, again in the FBS. Watson, in his last 3 years (i.e. not a freshman) had 1,650 yards and 13 TDs in 30 games, again in the FCS.

I told ya: the Packers drafted Watson to replace St. Brown.
 

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Aaron Rodgers wanted Velus so we are good.
 

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Before his sixth college season, he had never gotten 300 yards in a season. Even his breakout year, he wasn't an every-down receiver. But some here are expecting him to be an impact player against NFL corners his rookie season---sure....

Not saying it'll never happen. Just, I personally am tempering my expectations on his rookie season contributions. I'd love to be pleasantly surprised.

That's all I'm saying. If he juuusst figured out how to get open against college corners, why would people think he's going to get open against NFL corners in his rookie season?

I think some people here wouldn't have minded the Christian Watson pick, even in the 2nd. Even though he has question marks himself.

Specifically his catch % and the level of competition he played against
 

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Dont hate the pick, hate the fact he's supposed to be our #3 WR.

Marching that dude out there to run some rpo's, screens, slants every so often to keep the defense honest is great.

Expecting him to learn how to run routes against legit nfl corners in one offseason just doesn't seem realistic to me.
So who was the slam dunk #1 at 48. Pickens who can't stay healthy and can be a distraction? Jones had more yards last year than Pickens in the last 2. Pierce who's a one trick Pony. String bean Thornton that's easily bumped off of 1 on 1s?. The only one of these guys that wins one on ones is Pickens and he fell for different reasons? We don't need more 2s.
 

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So who was the slam dunk #1 at 48. Pickens who can't stay healthy and can be a distraction? Jones had more yards last year than Pickens in the last 2. Pierce who's a one trick Pony. String bean Thornton that's easily bumped off of 1 on 1s?. The only one of these guys that wins one on ones is Pickens and he fell for different reasons? We don't need more 2s.

How about Skyy Moore?
 

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How about Skyy Moore?
How is he a #1 one on one guy? Skipped him because it's self explanatory that he's not that nor an obvious deep threat. I bet he does well but not what we were looking for in place of another need. He'd have been a fine pick overall but Brisker was actually a greater need. We needed a true #1 to make that WR pick there.
 

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How is he a #1 one on one guy? Skipped him because it's self explanatory that he's not that nor an obvious deep threat. I bet he does well but not what we were looking for in place of another need. He'd have been a fine pick overall but Brisker was actually a greater need. We needed a true #1 to make that WR pick there.
Because he's a better, more skilled WR than Jones. But we will find out soon.
 

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Because he's a better, more skilled WR than Jones. But we will find out soon.
Well ya but then you don't have Brisker, a returner or a deep threat. I don't disagree with that either but it's a limited view.
This board has a huge case of myopathy. I'm not in anyway saying that Jones can't bust. I don't believe that for a moment. I'm just saying that I understand.
 

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Velus will only be a reach if he sucks. If he plays fairly well and is useful on both ST and the offense....no one will give a shit how old he is or where he was drafted.
 

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Well ya but then you don't have Brisker, a returner or a deep threat. I don't disagree with that either but it's a limited view.
This board has a huge case of myopathy. I'm not in anyway saying that Jones can't bust. I don't believe that for a moment. I'm just saying that I understand.
You seem to be a reasonable ,even keeled poster, which is appreciated on this board. Actually, because of the lack of proven receivers on the Bears, I would have doubled down and picked another receiver later on in the draft. At least they signed several UDFAs, but of course they are long shots.
 

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I'm hyped for this guy. Throw the pre-draft rankings out the window. He looks fast as **** and seems good at busting through the first tackler. Let's see what he can do.

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Exactly. A lot of what 'Las Velus' does will be dependent on how Getsy deploys him. And how his speed is utilized.
 

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You seem to be a reasonable ,even keeled poster, which is appreciated on this board. Actually, because of the lack of proven receivers on the Bears, I would have doubled down and picked another receiver later on in the draft. At least they signed several UDFAs, but of course they are long shots.
Regular FA Pringle and Moore are proven enough and not long shots.

Listen to Bears Banter Ep. 116. The host holds your position and his draft 'expert' E. J. Snyder does a very good job of representing mine.
The Host also bitches about the 24 year old WR while raving about the 24 yo lineman. That said, I don't think anyone here, including me, would have complained about Raimann in 3.
 
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