Darnell Wright--Colossal Bust

[remydat]

That is why a LT makes the big bucks.
You can slice it any way you want, but in reality is that RT isn't a premium position based on what the market values them at.

All your rationale won't change the fact that a top DT is worth more than a top RT.

Lane Johnson and Jawaan Taylor Make 20m a year as RTs. Another RT makes 19m and another one 18m. So 4 of the top 10 highest paid at the T position are RTs.

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[jive]

Lane Johnson and Jawaan Taylor Make 20m a year as RTs. Another RT makes 19m and another one 18m. So 4 of the top 10 highest paid at the T position are RTs.

The NFL's highest-paid offensive tackles: In-depth look at position's 2023 salary rankings

Offensive tackles are among the most important players on the football, and are appropriately compensated as such.

www.usatoday.com

And they are still significantly less than the top DT, which is Aaron Donald for $31.66 million

 

[remydat]

And they are still significantly less than the top DT, which is Aaron Donald for $31.66 million

You said thats why LTs make the big bucks so I was pointing out RTs make big bucks too. The highest paid LT makes 23m. The highest paid RT makes 20m.

And Donald is an anomaly as perhaps the greatest DT of all time. The next highest paid DT makes 24m. Donald's contract is clearly an outlier.

The NFL's highest-paid defensive tackles: See the position's 2023 salary rankings

The top 15 highest-paid NFL players are all quarterbacks. Breaking that run on the list is Los Angeles Rams defensive tackle Aaron Donald.

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It just doesnt make sense to claim RT is not a premium position when top guys are making 20m a year now but it is fair to say pass rusher and LT are more valuable all other things being equal.

 

[jive]

The highest paid NFL contracts that aren't QBs
Nick Bosa
Aaron Donald
Tyreek Hill
TJ Watt
Davante Adams
Joey Bosa
Cooper Kupp
AJ Brown
Myles Garrett
Laremy Tunsil

Only one of those are OTs, and none are a RT
5 pass rushers
4 WRs

You can never have too many pass rushers. In a passing league, they are crucial for a defense, as we can see by our lack of wins.

 

[nc0gnet0]

Jesus quit being stupid. Obviously they spent some of it as we added people. The point was they really didnt spend a ton in FA hence why they had the post cap space left at the end of FA which they then used to extend a few guys. They also have 110m in cap next year.

You are the one being stupid. How much cap you have next year is irrelevant to how much cap you spend this year.
The Bears started the year with 130 mil in cap. They currently have less than 10 mil

remydat said:
I was pointing out having the most cap space was irrelevant to our regression because we didnt spend it.

yes, yes you did. Cold Cement says thank you.

 

[Myk]

That is why a LT makes the big bucks.
You can slice it any way you want, but in reality is that RT isn't a premium position based on what the market values them at.

All your rationale won't change the fact that a top DT is worth more than a top RT.

You do realize Wright is a rookie while Braxton isn't. And Wright spent more time in college at LT than RT right? Why do Bears fans think because our long history of crap on oline meant players couldn't switch that means good players can't switch?

I bet Wright was drafted in the 1st to ultimately be LT and if the 5th rounder can't handle RT he can leave. But the truth is Braxton can switch sides and still be better than the crap we've had at either OT for the last 3 QBs.

Or if for some odd reason Wright can't switch in the NFL we just draft a left handed QB, like Tebow or Leinart (not to hold them up as great ones but very Bear picks).

 

[jive]

You do realize Wright is a rookie while Braxton isn't. And Wright spent more time in college at LT than RT right? Why do Bears fans think because our long history of crap on oline meant players couldn't switch that means good players can't switch?

I bet Wright was drafted in the 1st to ultimately be LT and if the 5th rounder can't handle RT he can leave. But the truth is Braxton can switch sides and still be better than the crap we've had at either OT for the last 3 QBs.

Or if for some odd reason Wright can't switch in the NFL we just draft a left handed QB, like Tebow or Leinart (not to hold them up as great ones but very Bear picks).

You're reaching....

In the end, top DL are always worth more than top OL in today's NFL.
It's reality, no need to rationalize it.

 

[bamainatlanta]

2024 NFL Team Salary Cap Tracker

A real-time look at the 2024 salary cap totals for each NFL team, including estimated cap space.

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Depends on what happens with Johnson, but Bears will be around $115 million in cap space in 2024. I don’t believe this takes into account the cap increase but could be wrong. Bears had to basically spend this year to get to the cap floor as they were way below it coming into the offseason.

It’s actually a decent FA class this year last I saw but who the **** knows how it will shake out. Last year was one of the weakest FA years for quite some time.

 

[msadows]

Plenty of good DE's line up against RT's nowadays, or flip sides.

This isnt 1995 when you only ran to the right side.

I feel like this board is just getting more stupid after every loss.

 

[bamainatlanta]

You are the one being stupid. How much cap you have next year is irrelevant to how much cap you spend this year.
The Bears started the year with 130 mil in cap. They currently have less than 10 mil

remydat said:
I was pointing out having the most cap space was irrelevant to our regression because we didnt spend it.

yes, yes you did. Cold Cement says thank you.

Lol. You act like we’re ashamed Poles re-signed a damn good TE that can block & run routes at an above average level.

 

[remydat]

The highest paid NFL contracts that aren't QBs
Nick Bosa
Aaron Donald
Tyreek Hill
TJ Watt
Davante Adams
Joey Bosa
Cooper Kupp
AJ Brown
Myles Garrett
Laremy Tunsil

Only one of those are OTs, and none are a RT
5 pass rushers
4 WRs

You can never have too many pass rushers. In a passing league, they are crucial for a defense, as we can see by our lack of wins.

Moving goal posts. Your claim was that RTs arent valuable. 20m a year says otherwise. That is just wrong. The end.

 

[jive]

Moving goal posts. Your claim was that RTs arent valuable. 20m a year says otherwise. That is just wrong. The end.

My claim was that a top RT isn't as valuable as a top DT.
It's true. There's no mental gymnastics that will change the dollars.
Aaron Donald agrees with me

 

[remydat]

You are the one being stupid. How much cap you have next year is irrelevant to how much cap you spend this year.
The Bears started the year with 130 mil in cap. They currently have less than 10 mil

remydat said:
I was pointing out having the most cap space was irrelevant to our regression because we didnt spend it.

yes, yes you did. Cold Cement says thank you.

They gave no FA long term contracts for more than 10m a year. The biggest contracts went to Kmet and Moore who was traded for so the point stands.

 

[remydat]

My claim was that a top RT isn't as valuable as a top DT.
It's true. There's no mental gymnastics that will change the dollars.
Aaron Donald agrees with me

That is not the claim I disputed.

That is why a LT makes the big bucks.
You can slice it any way you want, but in reality is that RT isn't a premium position based on what the market values them at.

All your rationale won't change the fact that a top DT is worth more than a top RT.

This is suggesting only LTs make the big bucks at the T position and that RT is not a premium position. Again 20m a year proves the bold wrong.

 

[jive]

That is not the claim I disputed.



This is suggesting only LTs make the big bucks at the T position and that RT is not a premium position. Again 20m a year proves the bold wrong.

But you didn't highlight the part where I said a top DT is worth more than a top RT, which is the whole point.
Being pedantic doesn't change the truth. Aaron Donald, Quinnen Williams, Jeffrey Simmons and Darron Payne make more than Lane Johnson.

 

[remydat]

But you didn't highlight the part where I said a top DT is worth more than a top RT, which is the whole point.
Being pedantic doesn't change the truth. Aaron Donald, Quinnen Williams, Jeffrey Simmons and Darron Payne make more than Lane Johnson.

I didnt highlight it because I didnt disagree with that part of your statement.

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

That is why a LT makes the big bucks.
You can slice it any way you want, but in reality is that RT isn't a premium position based on what the market values them at.

All your rationale won't change the fact that a top DT is worth more than a top RT.

So in terms of value, you'd put it at LT, D Line, RT?

 

[jive]

So in terms of value, you'd put it at LT, D Line, RT?

According to the market and player salaries it's QB, D-Line, WR, LT

 

[redgrange19]

Back to Wright.

He's been really good and brings a nastiness. He has his rookie struggles but dude can be an All-Pro.

 

[bamainatlanta]

According to the market and player salaries it's QB, D-Line, WR, LT

I believe it’s actually:

LS, FB, PH, and 3rd String QB
We’ll just agree to disagree though