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The signing also puts Montgomery back in the pen, which makes me happy because he's better there and our pen could use the help.
 

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Darvish and Chatwood < or > then Arrieta and Lackey in the cubs rotation with Lester Quintana Hendricks?

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Darvish and Chatwood! Arrieta lost 3-4 mph off his fastball and Lackey gave up the most homeruns last year.
 

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They're still not better than the Astros, Yankees, Red Sox, and Dodgers.

I like a matchup with the Dodgers. I think they’ll take a step back this year before really becoming great next year with Buehler, Verdugo and a healthy Urias. No way Turner, Taylor and Puig have seasons like last year, Seager’s back is an issue and I don’t buy Alex Wood repeating his 2017. Thus year is a great opportunity for the Cubs. The Nationals are still the team to beat though.
 

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I like a matchup with the Dodgers. I think they’ll take a step back this year before really becoming great next year with Buehler, Verdugo and a healthy Urias. No way Turner, Taylor and Puig have seasons like last year, Seager’s back is an issue and I don’t buy Alex Wood repeating his 2017. Thus year is a great opportunity for the Cubs. The Nationals are still the team to beat though.
Don't think a 38 YO Rich Hill will be that effective either..

As far as Yankees Redsox and Astros goes, wont have to worry about them til the World Series

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I thought the Cubs were punting 2018?
 

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you gave Yu Jake Arrieta's money and you will get what you deserve.
 

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Heard it came down to Cubs and Dodgers who had same type of deal on table and he chose cubs...

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you gave Yu Jake Arrieta's money and you will get what you deserve.
Arrieta was and may still be looking for more then 21 per. and i think he wants 6-7 yrs guarenteed at the 25+ he and his agent looking for



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Hopefully we get good Yu and not World Series Yu. And if we make the playoffs, hope he doesn't choke again.
 

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Woo-hoo! Like Beck, I like Darvish's K/9 and BB/9 a WHOLE lot. If nothing goes seriously bad in terms of injuries in '18, I think the Cubs just took a head-and-shoulders lead in being the favorites to win the Central again this year.

I'm happy that we're now in a position where we can make some adjustments, through a fairly deep farm system (especially at AAA) and, if need be, through trade, to deal with quirks and hiccups. But the most important base platform, the starting rotation, is now petty well patted into shape.

Let's go get 'em!
 

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Woo-hoo! Like Beck, I like Darvish's K/9 and BB/9 a WHOLE lot. If nothing goes seriously bad in terms of injuries in '18, I think the Cubs just took a head-and-shoulders lead in being the favorites to win the Central again this year.

I'm happy that we're now in a position where we can make some adjustments, through a fairly deep farm system (especially at AAA) and, if need be, through trade, to deal with quirks and hiccups. But the most important base platform, the starting rotation, is now petty well patted into shape.

Let's go get 'em!
All MLB scouts and most fans know the Cubs have one of the worst farm systems in MLB http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ted-farm-system-rankings-at-the-start-of-2018

Cubs nowhere to be seen on this list https://www.mlb.com/news/top-10-farm-systems-by-mlb-pipeline/c-217383778
 

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Living here in St. Louis now, where checking Cards fans predictably unrealistic reactions to everything is a regular exercise. If they are not still clinging to the Cubs lack of a WS for 108 years, they are looking out for the Ricketts' wallets.

Bad contract. They should have saved money. We'll now sign Jake Arrieta on a three year deal. (Because logically, after not giving in to a shorter contract while remaining unsigned for months, he would settle for three years immediately after the dam breaks, and Darvish gets a six-year deal.) Their logic is mind-boggling.
 

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Living here in St. Louis now, where checking Cards fans predictably unrealistic reactions to everything is a regular exercise. If they are not still clinging to the Cubs lack of a WS for 108 years, they are looking out for the Ricketts' wallets.

Bad contract. They should have saved money. We'll now sign Jake Arrieta on a three year deal. (Because logically, after not giving in to a shorter contract while remaining unsigned for months, he would settle for three years immediately after the dam breaks, and Darvish gets a six-year deal.) Their logic is mind-boggling.

Yeah, amazing how some specific fan bases seem to think they are entitled to players signing with them for less money than they would take from other teams, just... because.

Cubs fans seem a little less like that, but then again, we've only recently begun to see a possible future that includes the word "dynasty"... :)
 

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I would rather see Monty get a chance to start honestly. This is just like Dan Straily. Came over. Never caught on then traded out. Now he is a solid mid tier piece.

Way I look at it is his highest value is in a trade piece with his age and control. Cubs have depth at LH PB where trading him makes sense. Add to it they have Smyly shelved if needed down the road

Why would you want a mid-tier piece starting ahead of Darvish, Lester, Hendricks, Quintana or Chatwood?
 

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I believe "I like their chili" deserves another "WTF, man?"

IDK what to tell you. I like the taste of their chili. It's not world class or anything but where i live my fast food choices are McDonalds, Wendy's, Subway, Taco Bell, Burger King, Hardees and a few other random places. It's not like I have a great selection of choices. Wendy's is by far the best in my opinion of those choices.
 

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I wonder what uniform number Yu will want? He wore 11 in Texas and 21 in LA; per one website I found, that lists (amongst a lot of other things) the uni #s worn by anyone on the club or in the farm system who have ever played at the major league level, no one in the entire system is using number 21 right now. But number 11 seems to currently be assigned to starting pitcher on the DL -- one Drew Smyly... :D

And I look again, and staring me in the face, Chatwood has 21 right now. I wonder if any good old fashioned horse trading will go on, here...? ;)
 

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Why would you want a mid-tier piece starting ahead of Darvish, Lester, Hendricks, Quintana or Chatwood?

You are miss understanding the convo between me and Bears. Monty is put out of the rotation now and I feel that he holds value to a team that would give him a shot to start. He could turn into another Dan Straily with a good opertunity to establish himself.

As far as being a Cub I’m pretty sure that he is disappointed as he was training to start and this is a door shut.

IMO if the Cubs could swing a deal for Coleme involving him and Cartrini they should. I also think that Alozay should also be involved as his road is blocked also now.

Breaking into a contender is not a easy task. It is all about timing. Judge struck when the Yanks were in a semi rebuild. Alzolay, Cartiani would have to get in if a emergency and even then it would be stints in limited roles. Montgomery falls back to 1-2 inning work which is depressing his value.

Just saying it holds more value for the Cubs to make a splash now. They just went all in and it makes sense to stack the pen now.
 

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