Let me make a comparison for you guys. Derrick Rose is kind of like Mike Vick on the court. The PG is often called the quarterback of the offense. The QB's job is to make the proper reads to take advantage of mismatches against a defense. The QB's job is NOT to win the game by himself.
right..the difference is QB usually produces by distributing to other players..while a PG scores and distributes
the QB is definitely what propels the offense...and his job is to lead the offense..its hard for a team to win without a good QB..especially with the way the NFL has evolved to become a high powered-shot gun league
basically in the NFL you have two options..run or pass...you have options and intricate trick plays..but thats the basics...ya you pass to different WRs but thats basically your options
in the NBA you have five options..basically all the players on the floors...they can do different thing but thats what you're looking at
Like Vick, Derrick Rose is an elite athlete for his position. Mike Vick was a running QB, like Rose is a scoring PG. Vick was pretty easy to defend when he was one-dimensional. Vick made breath-taking runs, but if you sellout to stopping him instead of the other play-makers on offense, you win. Same goes with D-Rose when he's looking for his shot first. Stop Derrick and chances of you winning go up. But, if Derrick becomes a pure passing PG, like Vick has become a true passing QB, he becomes very difficult to defend. Now instead of selling out to stop one player, the opponent has to commit to defend the entire team.
i would argue the scoring aspect of PGs in the league today is more important and more evident than the running aspect for QBs...you have vick, newton,but really most QBs are pass first pocket..brees and brady are really pocket...rodgers runs but he does it conventionally and doesnt do it enough to be called truly multi dimensional
in the NBA...its hard to be a good PG and not score...otherwise you ironically take away from the offense...especially in the league today
think about rose,westbrook,parker,evans,paul,etc.
those guys are avid facilitators but they are also scorers..hell nash one of the most pass first PGs in the league...is one of the most efficient scorers in the league...also a threat from 3 point range....in his best years he averaged around 15 PPG
i like the comparison...and i do agree rose needs to facilitate more(he may have been the MVP..but i dont think he was the best pure-positional PG if you catch my drift) but i disagree with the notion he needs to be pass first...unlike vick...rose's calling card is scoring over passing....because of how the NFL works vick has become a dual threat..but i'd argue he's more of a passer now than a runner..and that's how most dual threat QBs are
why completely change rose's game when he's clearly comfortable as a scoring first...again i think he does need to be able to improve his vision and reading defenses and i think thats the next step..but completely changing his offensive philosophy would hurt more than help imo
Defenses already know Derrick is a ridiculous threat to score. Now they need to know he’s a dangerous threat to pass too. Instead of being a one-dimensional player, if Rose can be a multi-dimensional player it keeps the defense on it's heels. Defenders won’t know if Rose will try to score, or make a creative pass to set up a teammate.
rose averaged 7.7 assists per game...its not like he cant pass or he isnt a threat to pass...nor do i think this was the main problem in their series vs. miami
Against the Eagles now, defenses have to guard DeSean Jackson, Jeremy Maclin, LeSean McCoy, Brent Celek as well as contain Vick’s running. Vick has proven he can find them all. Vick is no longer a one-man show, and consequently he's never played better. If Rose can become a complete player like Vick, learning to find his teammates in favorable positions and mismatches, our offense will be much more versatile.
look..i agree with the idea...but you have to remember part of the reason rose was the "one man show" in some situations was because NO ONE ELSE COULD PRODUCE...facilitating only goes so far to make players better...noah is limited offensively..boozer was injured..deng cant dribble that well...the bulls had no 3 point shooting which means the offense was predictable
hmmm....now maybe its my opinion but those seem to be bigger issues than rose's mentality, no?
dont take this as me completely disagreeing...again i agree with the idea
Whether we win a championship depends on D-Rose playing like a true PG. Not to say that Rose shouldn't score. Vick hasn't turned into Peyton Manning. He still takes off for his patented 40-yd runs, but he runs only when his play-makers are accounted for. It makes the runs more effective. Rose should still attack the basket, he's too talented not too, but don't force it. Attack when defenses are giving you the lane, if they are packing the paint find the mismatch and give your teammate the ball.
again, like the idea..but rose is the best at getting to the basket..it shouldnt be "oh only drive when its conventional"...because thats what rose does best and thats his strength...he's also been developing his outside game which adds another facet for defenses to cover(another difference in the parallel between PGs scoring in the NBA and QBs running in the NFL...scoring in the NBA is much more diverse and harder to predict than QB scrambling)
i advocate that rose continue to drive and create, but look more to make the defenses bite and collapse in the paint..and then dish it to the open man..basically continue to attack..but look more for a man to be open rather than take it for a foul/layup or whatever he is going to do....
do not misconstrue this for any radical change..but thats just my opinion
Bottom line, instead of playing like a shorter, smaller Kobe Bryant, we need him to play like a bigger, faster, stronger Steve Nash. That’s it, point blank.
Good luck this summer D-Rose. Work on your game, we can't wait to see what you come back with in the fall.
why can't he be a kobe/nash hybrid? why does it have to be one extreme...the PG position has evolved...
also i agree with crys...i think its funny that we're centering on the MVP of not only the team but the league for the sources of the bulls issues when really(as i sparsely listed earlier in this response) its really alot of the other components of the team
not to say rose cant improve though, facilitating wise
