Do You think Fielder Is Coming To The Cubs?

Do You think Fielder Is Coming To The Cubs?

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Sounds like the Nationals are linked to Prince Fielder for some random reason, so I'd keep an eye on that.
 

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7/150?
 

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7/150?
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If the Nats want him that bad they can go for it and move Adam LaRoche to RF or something. If the Cubs want to try to get him, I think they are doing this right by waiting out the market. Or maybe they don't care.

Depending on the Darvish signing, the Rangers might still have the cash to get Fielder. The market probably has to collapse before the Cubs even think about it.
 
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cubsneedmiracle said:
It sounds like the Rangers FO has been given the green light to do it..
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I am done with Fielder and the waiting.

Lets just deal Garza, Dempster and pick up some young pitchers and a young power hitting 1st basemen and be terrible this season.

But as my co-worker told me last year we sat through terrible with old high priced vets anything is better than that.
 
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Rice Cube said:
If the Nats want him that bad they can go for it and move Adam LaRoche to RF or something. If the Cubs want to try to get him, I think they are doing this right by waiting out the market. Or maybe they don't care.

Depending on the Darvish signing, the Rangers might still have the cash to get Fielder. The market probably has to collapse before the Cubs even think about it.
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i think they care,but they know what the situation is and that this will go well into january...i'd be surprised if a deal is made within the next week
 

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One possibility that hasn't been mentioned is that the Cubs haven't a clue what is happening and thus don't know what play to make
 
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brett05 said:
One possibility that hasn't been mentioned is that the Cubs haven't a clue what is happening and thus don't know what play to make
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I disagree with that. I find it hard for a MLB front office to be out of the loop.

I think Boras and Fielder are in different directions regarding this.

Boras wants to make more of a splash with the contract, whereas I think Fielder just wants money.

I also think Fielder wants to double dip persay, something like a 5 year deal.
 
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brett05 said:
One possibility that hasn't been mentioned is that the Cubs haven't a clue what is happening and thus don't know what play to make
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You will apologize to Hoystein immediately.
 

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brett05 said:
I thought they had like five guys doing Hendry's job?
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It was because Hendry wasn't doing his job effectively that they had to hire five smarter guys to come in and fix this mess.
 

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Rice Cube said:
It was because Hendry wasn't doing his job effectively that they had to hire five smarter guys to come in and fix this mess.
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Really? Those playoff appearances was Jim not doing his job? Castro? Garza? Hmmm
 

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Really? Those playoff appearances was Jim not doing his job? Castro? Garza? Hmmm
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The first playoff appearance in 2003 was pretty cool and was fueled in large part by Hendry and pre-Hendry prospects. The 2007 and 2008 playoffs were the result of spending an assload of money to get Soriano and some other parts (including the great Mark DeRosa :lol: ), but in the background, they weren't drafting well and they weren't evaluating talent well. That's why after the window of opportunity closed, instead of being merely mediocre, they went to absolute suck. As soon as your high-priced players forget how to produce because they get older and suck, and you don't have guys in the minors ready to step in, your franchise is in major trouble.

This isn't to diminish the positives that Hendry brought to the Cubs, but you can't ignore the negatives in the background either. Not building up the farm system came back to bite the Cubs in the ass. That's what the deal is right now...have to restock and do it right.
 

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Oh I agree that the Cubs need to restock the minors. It'll be four years before you know if this new Front Office is worth it. All product til then gets a hendry stamp
 

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Oh I agree that the Cubs need to restock the minors. It'll be four years before you know if this new Front Office is worth it. All product til then gets a hendry stamp
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I think if you can see that they're starting to develop guys who can get on base with some patience and don't do dumb crap on defense and baserunning, that's already an improvement :lol: I know that Cubs fans are impatient and they'll have to make more than just incremental improvements, but if they can work on the things that they can more directly control and improve on those, I'd be happy.
 
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Rice Cube said:
The first playoff appearance in 2003 was pretty cool and was fueled in large part by Hendry and pre-Hendry prospects. The 2007 and 2008 playoffs were the result of spending an assload of money to get Soriano and some other parts (including the great Mark DeRosa :lol: ), but in the background, they weren't drafting well and they weren't evaluating talent well. That's why after the window of opportunity closed, instead of being merely mediocre, they went to absolute suck. As soon as your high-priced players forget how to produce because they get older and suck, and you don't have guys in the minors ready to step in, your franchise is in major trouble.

This isn't to diminish the positives that Hendry brought to the Cubs, but you can't ignore the negatives in the background either. Not building up the farm system came back to bite the Cubs in the ass. That's what the deal is right now...have to restock and do it right.
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I don't know how you call the prospects pre-Hendry in 2003 since prior to his promotion he was in charge of scouting, I believe or was it Oneri Fleita's job he had before. Seriously the issue, besides the outdated philosophy, that sunk the MacPhail/Hendry regime was the suprising 2001 campaign which made the Cubs try to get into win now mode sooner than they ought to have. The Cubs had developed a nice pipeline of pitching talent at the time, and that was the plan to develop a surplus of pitching and trade it for hitters. Unforunately they got impatient and made dumb decisions from that point on. Hendry the scout isn't a bad person to around. Hendry the GM is a terrible a person to have around.
 

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dabynsky is correct, by pre-Hendry I meant before he was GM. The pre-Hendry decisions had to be run past McPhail though, right?
 
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