Does Rose hate Dwyane Wade?

[houheffna]

Those aren't disses. He is just thinking out loud. He probably just mentioned to a reporter his thoughts, & that reporter decided to blow it up.

The reason I didn't remember that little detail was because it is completely pointless. It went in one ear & out the other. I wasn't butt hurt by it so much that I needed to hang on to it for almost a year.

Its not about being butt hurt. its about slandering an organization when arguably the greatest free agency class in sports history was going to start prospecting for their future. Wade has been in the league how many years? Played against the Bulls how many times? He could have mentioned those statements years ago. I remember it because of the timing of it. And though I predicted a Heat win...I root for them to fail because of the way they handled everything. Lebron is taking most of the heat, but I look at Wade differently now...but that's just me...

 

[Anytime23]

Oh yeah you aren't touchy at all.:flipa:

You called everyone touchy little bitches for no reason. Maybe you should remember what you write, dumbass.

 

[Anytime23]

Those aren't disses. He is just thinking out loud. He probably just mentioned to a reporter his thoughts, & that reporter decided to blow it up.

The reason I didn't remember that little detail was because it is completely pointless. It went in one ear & out the other. I wasn't butt hurt by it so much that I needed to hang on to it for almost a year.

Who said diss? His claims about the Bulls organization were false. Even though this whole big 3 thing has been planned for years, his statement about the Bulls were negative and could have had a direct effect on us landing LeBron or anyone for that matter. His statements werent thoughts, they were flat out lies. He knows better than that. He grew up a Bulls fan

 

[Bulls On Parade]

I don't think Wade's claims are that off base.

They have bailed on a lot of players that they should have been loyal too. Gordon, Wallace, Thomas, Slamons, Kirk, & the fan favorite Nocioni.

It is pretty apparent that if they think a player isn't working, or cap space is needed. They ditch them.

With that said. That is the reason why the Bulls are where they are, so you can't really hate on it.

Loyalty can have its faults.

 

[Diddy1122]

I don't think Wade's claims are that off base.

They have bailed on a lot of players that they should have been loyal too. Gordon, Wallace, Thomas, Slamons, Kirk, & the fan favorite Nocioni.

It is pretty apparent that if they think a player isn't working, or cap space is needed. They ditch them.

With that said. That is the reason why the Bulls are where they are, so you can't really hate on it.

Loyalty can have its faults.

Wait a minute here. You're calling the Bulls bailing on players from the team 4 years ago? And you were a fan while we were all swimming in our dad's ball sacks? Riiiiiight.

Who cares about Wallace (who sucked anyway) or Salmons or Noc? These guys were a big part of what exactly? What championship teams were they on again? Wade was not talking about current NBA players. He was talking about the players he saw while he was growing up. I'm several years older than Wade. I saw all these same players. And what Wade said was 100% false, there's no gray area here. And he knows that. What he did was the first part of a series of moves to try & swing major FA's to Miami.

What made it even more ridiculous was that he claimed the Heat, who've been in the league just over 20 years have more loyalty than the Bulls. GTFOH

 

[Lex L.]

I don't think Wade's claims are that off base.

They have bailed on a lot of players that they should have been loyal too. Gordon, Wallace, Thomas, Slamons, Kirk, & the fan favorite Nocioni.

It is pretty apparent that if they think a player isn't working, or cap space is needed. They ditch them.

With that said. That is the reason why the Bulls are where they are, so you can't really hate on it.

Loyalty can have its faults.

Oh wow. So much of this is full of holes. First of all, the Bulls dont run a charity. Second of all, if you want to talk about casting players aside for cap space, Miami is probably the biggest example ever.

Did you actually put any thought into this reply? Or are you really that stupid?

 

[WindyCity7]

I don't think Wade's claims are that off base.

They have bailed on a lot of players that they should have been loyal too. Gordon, Wallace, Thomas, Slamons, Kirk, & the fan favorite Nocioni.

It is pretty apparent that if they think a player isn't working, or cap space is needed. They ditch them.

With that said. That is the reason why the Bulls are where they are, so you can't really hate on it.

Loyalty can have its faults.

who traded the 2nd overall pick(michael Beasly) for 2 lower seeded draft picks... mere minutes after lebitch announced his "Decision"

your argument is swiss cheese

 

[houheffna]

I don't think Wade's claims are that off base.

They have bailed on a lot of players that they should have been loyal too. Gordon, Wallace, Thomas, Slamons, Kirk, & the fan favorite Nocioni.

It is pretty apparent that if they think a player isn't working, or cap space is needed. They ditch them.

With that said. That is the reason why the Bulls are where they are, so you can't really hate on it.

Loyalty can have its faults.

Okay man...if you been watching sports for so long...you must be going senile. This was just basketball Special person. I am going to start thinking you are Frank Breakfastsyleham....

 

[Bulls On Parade]

Wait a minute here. You're calling the Bulls bailing on players from the team 4 years ago? And you were a fan while we were all swimming in our dad's ball sacks? Riiiiiight.

Who cares about Wallace (who sucked anyway) or Salmons or Noc? These guys were a big part of what exactly? What championship teams were they on again? Wade was not talking about current NBA players. He was talking about the players he saw while he was growing up. I'm several years older than Wade. I saw all these same players. And what Wade said was 100% false, there's no gray area here. And he knows that. What he did was the first part of a series of moves to try & swing major FA's to Miami.

What made it even more ridiculous was that he claimed the Heat, who've been in the league just over 20 years have more loyalty than the Bulls. GTFOH

Um, actually Wallace was on the 2004 Pistons Championship team. Who has the memory problem?

Oh we are talking about that.

Well then Wade is 100% correct.

Have you not heard about how much Jordan hated Krause? Or how Krause could have kept the championship team together, but opted to completely destroy it instead. Leaving us with 14 years of darkness?

Do you not remember how Bulls management disrespected Horace to the point that he left town?

How about that famous story about Jordan getting buzzed on the bus after a game, & just verbally crushing Krause? None of the players liked that fat sad sack.

 

[Bulls On Parade]

Oh wow. So much of this is full of holes. First of all, the Bulls dont run a charity. Second of all, if you want to talk about casting players aside for cap space, Miami is probably the biggest example ever.

Did you actually put any thought into this reply? Or are you really that stupid?

The Heat weren't going anywhere. Riley had to make big moves to please his star player.

Something the Bulls didn't need to do at the time. In fact at the time, the Bulls let there star player go in Ben Gordon.

who traded the 2nd overall pick(michael Beasly) for 2 lower seeded draft picks... mere minutes after lebitch announced his "Decision"

your argument is swiss cheese

I am sorry, what exactly did Beasley do in Miami? Absolute squat.

Okay man...if you been watching sports for so long...you must be going senile. This was just basketball Special person. I am going to start thinking you are Frank Breakfastsyleham....

You have given absolutely nothing to work with here. Please post something some what constructive or move along.

 

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[Diddy1122]

Um, actually Wallace was on the 2004 Pistons Championship team. Who has the memory problem?

Oh we are talking about that.

Well then Wade is 100% correct.

Have you not heard about how much Jordan hated Krause? Or how Krause could have kept the championship team together, but opted to completely destroy it instead. Leaving us with 14 years of darkness?

Do you not remember how Bulls management disrespected Horace to the point that he left town?

How about that famous story about Jordan getting buzzed on the bus after a game, & just verbally crushing Krause? None of the players liked that fat sad sack.

Wallace was a shell of his former self on the Bulls, AND HE DIDNT EVEN WANT TO PLAY HERE! His wife told him to take the contract.

You're talking about 2 instances with 2 players. 1 wanted to run a team, Krause didn't think he could, though I hate him gotta say Krause was right. The other wanted the biggest contract in Bulls history. JR didn't agree. Did they have a handshake agreement, who the hell knows? Certainly not you or me. And that Grant mishap didn't work out too bad did it, we won 3 more!

And the dynasty was coming to a close. Though most people vehemently argue against it that we could've won in the shortened season, MJ's heart was no longer in it, Rodman was partying too much, & Pip was only an injury away from being a shell of his former self. At the most the team could've lasted was 1 more year as constructed.

Wade made those comments cuz MJ is not a part of the organization. MJ wanted his own team. He wanted to own a team. He got it. It was never going to happen here & everyone knew that. And thank God for that. I love MJ but he is not a good team owner or GM.

 

[houheffna]

The Heat weren't going anywhere. Riley had to make big moves to please his star player.

Something the Bulls didn't need to do at the time. In fact at the time, the Bulls let there star player go in Ben Gordon.

I am sorry, what exactly did Beasley do in Miami? Absolute squat.

You have given absolutely nothing to work with here. Please post something some what constructive or move along.

Okay...first you call Gordon a star player? Basketball Special person. You can't work with anything because you don't seem to know much about Bulls history...at least not recent history. So let me post something constructive for you...you don't have a clue. You are trying to stir up debate around some rather obtuse thinking. Wade was right to complain about Reinsdorf because of how he treated....Ben Gordon and Tyrus Thomas???? That is what you took from Wade's statements. My goodness that is just stupid.

And again, while this team is in the Eastern Conference Finals and 3 wins from the Finals, you chide Reinsdorf for how he treated...Ben Wallace and Nocioni????

Dude, go watch competitive crocheting or something...NBA aint for you...

 

[Utahbullsfan]

Since then, I have always had something against Wade. And yes, I think there is a bit of something brewing between Wade and Rose. I don't think however that its festered yet. I compared it a bit to Isiah/Jordan, who became mortal enemies. Jordan disliked Isiah so much he wouldn't allow Isiah on the Dream Team in 1992. Will Wade/Rose go that far? I don't know about that....

What's funny is I talked about this on the first episode of the Barbershop. I see the makings of it happening....but not now...

I think Wade would try and keep Rose off but Rose wouldn't try and keep Wade off

 

[Bulls On Parade]

Okay...first you call Gordon a star player? Basketball Special person. You can't work with anything because you don't seem to know much about Bulls history...at least not recent history. So let me post something constructive for you...you don't have a clue. You are trying to stir up debate around some rather obtuse thinking. Wade was right to complain about Reinsdorf because of how he treated....Ben Gordon and Tyrus Thomas???? That is what you took from Wade's statements. My goodness that is just stupid.

And again, while this team is in the Eastern Conference Finals and 3 wins from the Finals, you chide Reinsdorf for how he treated...Ben Wallace and Nocioni????

Dude, go watch competitive crocheting or something...NBA aint for you...

He won 6th man, & he was a contributing factor to almost outing the Boston Celtics.

I am not saying he was a huge star. I am saying that by Bulls standards at the time he was Chicago's biggest star. Some people are still pissed Pax let him go.

I personally never liked his shot selection. I thought he hurt them more than helped.

I am just saying that by the fans standards at the time, many Bulls fans put a lot of insentive on Gordon. He was nicknamed Baby Bull for gods sake!

 

[Bulls On Parade]

Lets all stop trying to pretend we weren't all excited when Wallace signed with Chicago. Hindsight is 20/20.

 

[Bulls On Parade]

LOL. I am going steal this gif.:woot:

 

[Glide2keva]

LOL. I am going steal this gif.:woot:

Way to make an impression coming into this forum, good job. I thought my debut was bad, jeez.

 

[FirstTimer]

It went in one ear & out the other. .

Thank you for confirming the fact that it didn't run into anything during this journey through your head. I will keep this in mine when reading all of your future posts.

Gordon

Wanted to be paid like a star and a starter. He wasn't and still isn't.

Wallace

Had a somewhat decent first season then fell off a cliff. Was a shell of himself while here and a complete ass clown behind closed doors. Why should we have been loyal to him?

Thomas

Tyrus got more than enough chances here to succeed. Why should we have been loyal to him? Taj was better last year than Tyrus ever was.

Slamons

Started off really badly the year after the playoffs and is a blackhole with the basketball. His trading helped free up cap space to go afetr FA's this past season. Seems like a good idea seeing where we currently are, no?

Kirk

Kirk always got a bad rap here but he was a valuable asset and his trade helped free up cap space. Sucked to see him go but for the long term may have been a needed move.

Nocioni.

Nice work. The Bulls should have been loyal to Salmons....yet they traded Noc for Salmons. How is this even possible? Noc was a guy but it was domino that had to fall to free up cap space.

It is pretty apparent that if they think a player isn't working, or cap space is needed.

Seems like a pretty sound business practice....

Have you not heard about how much Jordan hated Krause? Or how Krause could have kept the championship team together, but opted to completely destroy it instead. Leaving us with 14 years of darkness?

Jordan was done in 1998 everyone knew that. Hell, the last few games of the season and his last MSG game was a glorified farewell tour. I don't think anyone truly though the Bulls would be back together after the second three peat...especially with the lockout looming.

Do you not remember how Bulls management disrespected Horace to the point that he left town?

Jordan hated Horace too. Horace had the attitude of a star when he wasn't.

The Heat weren't going anywhere. Riley had to make big moves to please his star player.

Maybe the Bulls were makign these moves to help please Rose and prove to him they were building a winner?

Hmm...

Something the Bulls didn't need to do at the time. In fact at the time, the Bulls let there star player go in Ben Gordon.

Ben Gordon wasn't a star. The moment Rose ws drafted he became the biggest and best thing on that team. Plus not handing out a bigger contract to Gordon helped the Bulls conserve cap space for this most recent class. Again, another sound business decision.

I am sorry, what exactly did Beasley do in Miami? Absolute squat.

Not the point.

He won 6th man, & he was a contributing factor to almost outing the Boston Celtics.

Yawn. Who cares? He wanted to get paid big money, that he wasn't worth, the Bulls let him walk and invested the money more wisely in other areas. Gordon had some nice years here. Yeah, we know, but that doesn't mean he's entitled to be a Bull for life or get what he wants. The Bulls are trying to win a championship. If they feel moving Gordon or allowing him to go so they can spend the money elsewhere more effectivley gets them to that point or closer to that overall goal they are well within their rights too....and were/are smart in doing so.

Some people are still pissed Pax let him go.

Who?
You and the other 2 members of the Ben Gordon fan club?

I thought he hurt them more than helped.

Then why should the Bulls have been "loyal" to him and given him a large contract? Why is it a bad thing or "disloyalty" to let him walk?

You keep mentioning all these players the Bulls should have shown loyalty to, yet keep saying they are bad, or hurt the team etc. Why/how should the Bulls have shown loyalty to these players? Explain that or STFU.