Does Rose hate Dwyane Wade?

[Utahbullsfan]

Thank you for confirming the fact that it didn't run into anything during this journey through your head. I will keep this in mine when reading all of your future posts.



Wanted to be paid like a star and a starter. He wasn't and still isn't.


Had a somewhat decent first season then fell off a cliff. Was a shell of himself while here and a complete ass clown behind closed doors. Why should we have been loyal to him?


Tyrus got more than enough chances here to succeed. Why should we have been loyal to him? Taj was better last year than Tyrus ever was.


Started off really badly the year after the playoffs and is a blackhole with the basketball. His trading helped free up cap space to go afetr FA's this past season. Seems like a good idea seeing where we currently are, no?

Kirk always got a bad rap here but he was a valuable asset and his trade helped free up cap space. Sucked to see him go but for the long term may have been a needed move.


Nice work. The Bulls should have been loyal to Salmons....yet they traded Noc for Salmons. How is this even possible? Noc was a guy but it was domino that had to fall to free up cap space.


Seems like a pretty sound business practice....






Jordan was done in 1998 everyone knew that. Hell, the last few games of the season and his last MSG game was a glorified farewell tour. I don't think anyone truly though the Bulls would be back together after the second three peat...especially with the lockout looming.


Jordan hated Horace too. Horace had the attitude of a star when he wasn't.



Maybe the Bulls were makign these moves to help please Rose and prove to him they were building a winner?

Hmm...



Ben Gordon wasn't a star. The moment Rose ws drafted he became the biggest and best thing on that team. Plus not handing out a bigger contract to Gordon helped the Bulls conserve cap space for this most recent class. Again, another sound business decision.




Not the point.






Yawn. Who cares? He wanted to get paid big money, that he wasn't worth, the Bulls let him walk and invested the money more wisely in other areas. Gordon had some nice years here. Yeah, we know, but that doesn't mean he's entitled to be a Bull for life or get what he wants. The Bulls are trying to win a championship. If they feel moving Gordon or allowing him to go so they can spend the money elsewhere more effectivley gets them to that point or closer to that overall goal they are well within their rights too....and were/are smart in doing so.


Who?
You and the other 2 members of the Ben Gordon fan club?


Then why should the Bulls have been "loyal" to him and given him a large contract? Why is it a bad thing or "disloyalty" to let him walk?

You keep mentioning all these players the Bulls should have shown loyalty to, yet keep saying they are bad, or hurt the team etc. Why/how should the Bulls have shown loyalty to these players? Explain that or STFU.

:bowrofl:

 

[Glide2keva]

Thank you for confirming the fact that it didn't run into anything during this journey through your head. I will keep this in mine when reading all of your future posts.



Wanted to be paid like a star and a starter. He wasn't and still isn't.


Had a somewhat decent first season then fell off a cliff. Was a shell of himself while here and a complete ass clown behind closed doors. Why should we have been loyal to him?


Tyrus got more than enough chances here to succeed. Why should we have been loyal to him? Taj was better last year than Tyrus ever was.


Started off really badly the year after the playoffs and is a blackhole with the basketball. His trading helped free up cap space to go afetr FA's this past season. Seems like a good idea seeing where we currently are, no?

Kirk always got a bad rap here but he was a valuable asset and his trade helped free up cap space. Sucked to see him go but for the long term may have been a needed move.


Nice work. The Bulls should have been loyal to Salmons....yet they traded Noc for Salmons. How is this even possible? Noc was a guy but it was domino that had to fall to free up cap space.


Seems like a pretty sound business practice....






Jordan was done in 1998 everyone knew that. Hell, the last few games of the season and his last MSG game was a glorified farewell tour. I don't think anyone truly though the Bulls would be back together after the second three peat...especially with the lockout looming.


Jordan hated Horace too. Horace had the attitude of a star when he wasn't.



Maybe the Bulls were makign these moves to help please Rose and prove to him they were building a winner?

Hmm...



Ben Gordon wasn't a star. The moment Rose ws drafted he became the biggest and best thing on that team. Plus not handing out a bigger contract to Gordon helped the Bulls conserve cap space for this most recent class. Again, another sound business decision.




Not the point.






Yawn. Who cares? He wanted to get paid big money, that he wasn't worth, the Bulls let him walk and invested the money more wisely in other areas. Gordon had some nice years here. Yeah, we know, but that doesn't mean he's entitled to be a Bull for life or get what he wants. The Bulls are trying to win a championship. If they feel moving Gordon or allowing him to go so they can spend the money elsewhere more effectivley gets them to that point or closer to that overall goal they are well within their rights too....and were/are smart in doing so.


Who?
You and the other 2 members of the Ben Gordon fan club?


Then why should the Bulls have been "loyal" to him and given him a large contract? Why is it a bad thing or "disloyalty" to let him walk?

You keep mentioning all these players the Bulls should have shown loyalty to, yet keep saying they are bad, or hurt the team etc. Why/how should the Bulls have shown loyalty to these players? Explain that or STFU.

Dude is arguing for players that Wade wasn't even referring to. He's mad he got owned on that "making shit up" comment and can't accept defeat or admit he was wrong, so he tries to change the argument. Classic troll move.

He goes on ignore.

 

[FirstTimer]

Dude is arguing for players that Wade wasn't even referring to. He's mad he got owned on that "making shit up" comment and can't accept defeat or admit he was wrong, so he tries to change the argument. Classic troll move.

He goes on ignore.

It always burns me the Bulls weren't more loyal to Dickey Simpkins...even though he sucked.

 

[Utahbullsfan]

Thank you for confirming the fact that it didn't run into anything during this journey through your head. I will keep this in mine when reading all of your future posts.



Wanted to be paid like a star and a starter. He wasn't and still isn't.


Had a somewhat decent first season then fell off a cliff. Was a shell of himself while here and a complete ass clown behind closed doors. Why should we have been loyal to him?


Tyrus got more than enough chances here to succeed. Why should we have been loyal to him? Taj was better last year than Tyrus ever was.


Started off really badly the year after the playoffs and is a blackhole with the basketball. His trading helped free up cap space to go afetr FA's this past season. Seems like a good idea seeing where we currently are, no?

Kirk always got a bad rap here but he was a valuable asset and his trade helped free up cap space. Sucked to see him go but for the long term may have been a needed move.


Nice work. The Bulls should have been loyal to Salmons....yet they traded Noc for Salmons. How is this even possible? Noc was a guy but it was domino that had to fall to free up cap space.


Seems like a pretty sound business practice....






Jordan was done in 1998 everyone knew that. Hell, the last few games of the season and his last MSG game was a glorified farewell tour. I don't think anyone truly though the Bulls would be back together after the second three peat...especially with the lockout looming.


Jordan hated Horace too. Horace had the attitude of a star when he wasn't.



Maybe the Bulls were makign these moves to help please Rose and prove to him they were building a winner?

Hmm...



Ben Gordon wasn't a star. The moment Rose ws drafted he became the biggest and best thing on that team. Plus not handing out a bigger contract to Gordon helped the Bulls conserve cap space for this most recent class. Again, another sound business decision.




Not the point.






Yawn. Who cares? He wanted to get paid big money, that he wasn't worth, the Bulls let him walk and invested the money more wisely in other areas. Gordon had some nice years here. Yeah, we know, but that doesn't mean he's entitled to be a Bull for life or get what he wants. The Bulls are trying to win a championship. If they feel moving Gordon or allowing him to go so they can spend the money elsewhere more effectivley gets them to that point or closer to that overall goal they are well within their rights too....and were/are smart in doing so.


Who?
You and the other 2 members of the Ben Gordon fan club?


Then why should the Bulls have been "loyal" to him and given him a large contract? Why is it a bad thing or "disloyalty" to let him walk?

You keep mentioning all these players the Bulls should have shown loyalty to, yet keep saying they are bad, or hurt the team etc. Why/how should the Bulls have shown loyalty to these players? Explain that or STFU.

 

[houheffna]

Lets all stop trying to pretend we weren't all excited when Wallace signed with Chicago. Hindsight is 20/20.

And lets stop trying to pretend we weren't happy he left...

 

[houheffna]

He won 6th man, & he was a contributing factor to almost outing the Boston Celtics.

I am not saying he was a huge star. I am saying that by Bulls standards at the time he was Chicago's biggest star. Some people are still pissed Pax let him go.

I personally never liked his shot selection. I thought he hurt them more than helped.

I am just saying that by the fans standards at the time, many Bulls fans put a lot of insentive on Gordon. He was nicknamed Baby Bull for gods sake!

The Bulls are in the ECF...who gives a damn about Ben Gordon? He went to Detroit and is making 12mil a year...don't need that size contract on this team for a guard who can only play on one side of the court and can't handle the ball. And who cares what his nickname was....

And people are so distressed about his leaving they......booed him nonstop when he returned!?!? Okay!!!

 

[Glide2keva]

Dude is getting styled on.

 

[FirstTimer]

WindyCityWizard hasn't shown back up either.

Hilarious.

 

[Glide2keva]

He knew he got ass raped and he can't handle it.

 

[DRose23]

Theres no proof of any of this but who really knows.

 

[Glide2keva]

Theres no proof of any of this but who really knows.

lol whut?

 

[FirstTimer]

I think he's referencing the thread title.

 

[Bulls On Parade]

Thank you for confirming the fact that it didn't run into anything during this journey through your head. I will keep this in mine when reading all of your future posts.



Wanted to be paid like a star and a starter. He wasn't and still isn't.


Had a somewhat decent first season then fell off a cliff. Was a shell of himself while here and a complete ass clown behind closed doors. Why should we have been loyal to him?


Tyrus got more than enough chances here to succeed. Why should we have been loyal to him? Taj was better last year than Tyrus ever was.


Started off really badly the year after the playoffs and is a blackhole with the basketball. His trading helped free up cap space to go afetr FA's this past season. Seems like a good idea seeing where we currently are, no?

Kirk always got a bad rap here but he was a valuable asset and his trade helped free up cap space. Sucked to see him go but for the long term may have been a needed move.


Nice work. The Bulls should have been loyal to Salmons....yet they traded Noc for Salmons. How is this even possible? Noc was a guy but it was domino that had to fall to free up cap space.


Seems like a pretty sound business practice....






Jordan was done in 1998 everyone knew that. Hell, the last few games of the season and his last MSG game was a glorified farewell tour. I don't think anyone truly though the Bulls would be back together after the second three peat...especially with the lockout looming.


Jordan hated Horace too. Horace had the attitude of a star when he wasn't.



Maybe the Bulls were makign these moves to help please Rose and prove to him they were building a winner?

Hmm...



Ben Gordon wasn't a star. The moment Rose ws drafted he became the biggest and best thing on that team. Plus not handing out a bigger contract to Gordon helped the Bulls conserve cap space for this most recent class. Again, another sound business decision.




Not the point.






Yawn. Who cares? He wanted to get paid big money, that he wasn't worth, the Bulls let him walk and invested the money more wisely in other areas. Gordon had some nice years here. Yeah, we know, but that doesn't mean he's entitled to be a Bull for life or get what he wants. The Bulls are trying to win a championship. If they feel moving Gordon or allowing him to go so they can spend the money elsewhere more effectivley gets them to that point or closer to that overall goal they are well within their rights too....and were/are smart in doing so.


Who?
You and the other 2 members of the Ben Gordon fan club?


Then why should the Bulls have been "loyal" to him and given him a large contract? Why is it a bad thing or "disloyalty" to let him walk?

You keep mentioning all these players the Bulls should have shown loyalty to, yet keep saying they are bad, or hurt the team etc. Why/how should the Bulls have shown loyalty to these players? Explain that or STFU.

Every single bit of this can be bragged about with the help of hindsight.

Way to clip my posts to suit your means. Did you not notice that I mentioned I personally did not care for Gordon?

But make not mistake, Gordon was still considered the star on that team at the time. Rose was still just a potential. You can make a poor attempt at rewriting history. Things don't work like that in the real world.

I also mentioned that the lack of Loyalty was the reason we are where we are, so loyalty has its faults.

Of Course Wallace fell off. Everybody knows that now. What the **** is your point?

But please by all means keep Fox Newsing my posts.

 

[Bulls On Parade]

And lets stop trying to pretend we weren't happy he left...

Who in the **** isn't? I was tired of him after one season. With the whole head band bullshit. All that.

The Bulls are in the ECF...who gives a damn about Ben Gordon? He went to Detroit and is making 12mil a year...don't need that size contract on this team for a guard who can only play on one side of the court and can't handle the ball. And who cares what his nickname was....

And people are so distressed about his leaving they......booed him nonstop when he returned!?!? Okay!!!

I fucking said in my second paragraph. I personally did not care for Gordon at all. I did not like his circus shots, & I was glad to see him go.

The reality is to casual fans he was a favorite. Therefore a star on that team... ON THAT TEAM!!

 

[Bulls On Parade]

I am saying that by making a contract. You are saying that you will be loyal to that player until that contract is up. If they are traded before the contract is up. That is by definition a loss of loyalty.

I am not saying I agree, disagree with the moves. With the exception of Nocioni I do miss that dude.

It all comes down to me simply saying I can kind of see Wades point about a question of loyalty is all. IN THE PRESENT OR PAST MANAGEMENT!

 

[Utahbullsfan]

Who in the **** isn't? I was tired of him after one season. With the whole head band bullshit. All that.



I fucking said in my second paragraph. I personally did not care for Gordon at all. I did not like his circus shots, & I was glad to see him go.

The reality is to casual fans he was a favorite. Therefore a star on that team... ON THAT TEAM!!

What organization would take Ben Gordon over a legit chance at that free agent class??

Also they Bulls offered him an extension like the season before and he declined! He wanted more money than he was worth..

And if the Bulls where so unloyal why is Jo still wearing a Bulls jersey and not Carmelo?

 

[Glide2keva]

He's a clown, don't even respond to him.

 

[houheffna]

I am saying that by making a contract. You are saying that you will be loyal to that player until that contract is up. If they are traded before the contract is up. That is by definition a loss of loyalty.

I am not saying I agree, disagree with the moves. With the exception of Nocioni I do miss that dude.

It all comes down to me simply saying I can kind of see Wades point about a question of loyalty is all. IN THE PRESENT OR PAST MANAGEMENT!

A contract obligates your getting paid, not playing with one team...where the hell did you get that logic from? Players demand to be traded, teams trade players...that is life in professional sports. What is the big deal? You are the only person on the planet who misses Nocioni playing basketball by the way.

And so why isn't Wade made at Miami management for trading Shaq?

 

[Anytime23]

I don't think Wade's claims are that off base.

They have bailed on a lot of players that they should have been loyal too. Gordon, Wallace, Thomas, Slamons, Kirk, & the fan favorite Nocioni.

It is pretty apparent that if they think a player isn't working, or cap space is needed. They ditch them.

With that said. That is the reason why the Bulls are where they are, so you can't really hate on it.

Loyalty can have its faults.

This is completely laughable. Now i know not to take you serious. Believe i am checking your IP, like Hou said, this is Frank trolling.

 

[Anytime23]

I dont think he's Frank but his basketball ignorance is off the charts. I recommend everyone add him to ignore, to make your CCS experience better.