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Sanchez a 1B lol
Sanchez a 1B lol
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Oh yeah. whoops. I was thinking of Anibal. I feel like such an idiot right now :facepalm:
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He's in DET anyways...
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lol yeah I just realized that as well :tiptoe:
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While they made some really bad FA/trade moves this winter, and all in vain as they still didn't have the stuff to compete in what might be the second toughest division in baseball right now... I don't think this is such a bad trade. I think they got ripped off on the Ramirez trade, but Eovaldi should be a pretty good SP in the future. They also did pretty well with the Anibal Sanchez trade.
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Marlins 2 WS in last 20 yrs. How many Cubs have? 0 so dont be that guy
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Took Cubs one year to win highest baseball championship at time of founding (won 1870 National Association of Base Ball Players pennant in first season of existence), took the Marlins five season to win World Series
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Took Cubs one year to win highest baseball championship at time of founding (won 1870 National Association of Base Ball Players pennant in first season of existence), took the Marlins five season to win World Series
Not such an out of reach thing, since the Cubs (White Stockings at the time) existed prior to that particular association's founding... and there were only 9 teams in the league. The Cubs even left the league for 2 years due to the Great Fire of 1871, returning in 1874. Oh, and in 1871, ALL of the teams were new to the league, as it was a new league. Several teams from the old leagues lost many of their players, as they did not want to transfer to the new league and it's different rules. The White Stockings were the only team to transfer from one league to the other in 1871 and not lose any of their players.
The Cubs began playing as a semi-professional unit in 1870, but have roots as far back as 1866 as an amateur squad. Most of the guys that were around in 1868 as amateurs were on the club that won the NAPBBP pennant in 1871 (hence why they were considered a semi-pro team, they still had more amateurs than pros). They weren't considered a full-time professional team until 1876 when the National League started up. At that time, the White Stockings went out and signed the premiere players from the defunct NAPBBP and NABBP (two different leagues, as the NAPBBP formed due to a split with the NABBP over rules and regulations disagreements) to become the dominant team in the new league.
So, it's not quite the same kind of story to claim the Cubs won a pennant after just 1 year of existence... and stating that the Marlins took 5 years (against 27 and 29 established teams... not 8 unestablished teams). Also, the Marlins have actually won the WS twice in the past 20 years, the Cubs have not. They even beat the Cubs on their way to one of those WS victories. Considering that the Cubs dramatically shift gears after Spalding sold the club to Wrigley... and even more shifting when Wrigley sold the club to the Tribune.... you can say that the Cubs are not the same organization they were in the 1870s. Over the past 20 years, the Marlins have been overall a better organization simply due to the 2 WS wins compared to the Cubs' 104-year drought.
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There's actually a good Joe Posnanski blog about why the Cubs have sucked for so long. It mentions some of the fails of ownership in addition to all the random bad luck.
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I saw that. He makes some really good points and is correct IMO.
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Yes and it touches on a lot of things including the fact that 1908 isn't really the whole story with the Cubs (winning a number of pennants in between 08-45). The problem was being behind everyone else for long stretches of time (whether that was a farm system in the 40s and 50s), not spending money (70s-80s), relying only on traditional baseball analysis (90s-00s). Some bad luck in not converting the rare chances between 45 and now is the "curse", but mostly this has been a poorly run franchise for a majority of its 125+ year history.
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kind of a slow day for trades. the usual suspects went as predicted but now a lot of surprises.
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Yeah none of the arms with control went anywhere, and I am surprised that Millwood and Vargas are still in Seattle.
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the demand for top specs probably had teams stand pat.
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And as I said in the Dempster thread I think this is why the Cubs got what they got for Dempster from Texas. Without it happening the Cubs were going to keep him.
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at the end of the day its better than a comp pick and or the chance that demp takes the 12.3
so glad the deadline is over. time for baseball!
are any of the specs coming up right away? is randy wells coming back up?
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