Fields: 169 yards passing after 4 TOs by Detroit just isn't going to cut it.

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I mean he literally did not do that.

Considering they got 4 turnovers off the Lions this game should not have been close. But Justin Fields is a model of inefficiency. His running is great. U til he consistently produces from the pocket the Bears will never be a consistent offense. Especially when it matters most.










"If the Bears defense had held the Lions out of the end zone and won the game, I would feel exactly the same way about Fields. He's not good.enough."
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Gotcha.....you do not like JF no matter what he does as the Bears Qb.

No, I'm saying I can evaluate Fields' play, his long term potential, and the individual game separately. It's not "Bears win=Fields.good."

Like I said, he was mostly fine today. Fine. Like, he wasn't bad. If that's your standard, so be it. He wasn't the reason the Bears lost. Great. That doesn't make him the long term answer at quarterback. He has sooooo much improvement he needs to make ro.even consider that.
 

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Fields did have 30 seconds and two TO to get into FG range. When will fields ever be clutch? He had a chance and fumbled. Name one time in fields 30 games he was clutch and won a game? You aren’t being honest with yourself
At own 25, and against a really good defense. Wright whiffed on his block, and would've been a sack anyways. Hutch met Fields there at his drop. So 2nd and long about 24 seconds at own 15. Get a FG to tie the game, not win it. Bears are most likely losing this game anyways with pussy Eberflus calling the defense anyways.
 

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You're leaving out the part where the offense had the ball in between those 2 drives and could have ended the game. Instead they went 3 and out and only took like 12 seconds off the clock. Just 1 first down leaves Detroit with barely any time left in that situation. Then got the ball back with 2 timeouts and immediately fumbled due to a complete lack of pocket awareness.
I find it somewhat humorous that no one is mentioning the almost 9 minute drive in the 4th quarter that would've sealed it for any properly coached team.

But Eberflose's D prowess showed once again why his defenses have never been elite
 

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I find it somewhat humorous that no one is mentioning the almost 9 minute drive in the 4th quarter that would've sealed it for any properly coached team.

But Eberflose's D prowess showed once again why his defenses have never been elite
Up by 2 scores and still didn't go for 4th and 1.
 

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Question what role Getsy does play in this ?? Please keep it focused on Getsy
All due respect, he commented about fields in a thread…. About fields.

TL1961 said:

I am not blaming Fields for today’s loss. There were many factors that contributed to the loss and Fields’ play was not at the top of that list.

But when does he lead the team to victory? When is his talent enough to overcome those factors?

169 yards passing and one TD in an NFL
game is not celebrated by other fanbases.



Respectfully I get that. Here's the thread title "Fields: 169 yards passing after 4 TOs by Detroit just isn't going to cut it." Note the questions/ comments above are in line with the thread title

The covert implication is JF is responsible for the lost today. So is it wrong to ask about the contributing factors to
JF's performance ?? I mean JF doesn't call the plays. JF doesn't have the power to say 'I want 2-300 passing yards and I'm gonna keep throwing deep until it happens'.

Here's something to consider .....ppl are saying the 6-25 record is JF's record. Yet ppl have told me it's a team record.
My friend ....I'm just trying to make sense outta all this. I just wanna see us win another SB.
 

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So you're in a round about way blaming JF. Regardless of The defense.......
Giving up a 26-14 lead in the last 3 min.......is that correct ??

Ya kind of. But you're right that drive was mostly on Getsy. But watching it makes me wonder why we never see Fields make adjustments to the play at the line. Bagent was always calling things out and making adjustments pre snap, killing plays and calling audibles. Why does Fields never do that? Did Fields not have the go ahead to change out of those runs up the middle that had no chance? He just seems to always like up and run whatever was called.

Those are thing we'll never know the answer to but it does make you wonder.

So I don't remember Bagent calling audibles being a rookie. If u have footage of this, I'd like to see it. I still don't know how much latitude any of the Qb's have under Getsy.
 

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Question what role Getsy does play in this ?? Please keep it focused on Getsy
Getsy doesn't help, that's for sure. I wish he played more to Fields' strengths. But we saw a lot of rushing yards today, but the points don't follow. Fields ran for a first down deep in Lion's territory and we the went into a shell. No killer instinct.

At the time I said kicking on 4th to go up 12 was the right move, but it was the downs before that that were too conservative.
 

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The Galloping Ghost said:
I mean he literally did not do that.

Considering they got 4 turnovers off the Lions this game should not have been close. But Justin Fields is a model of inefficiency. His running is great. U til he consistently produces from the pocket the Bears will never be a consistent offense. Especially when it matters most.










"If the Bears defense had held the Lions out of the end zone and won the game, I would feel exactly the same way about Fields. He's not good.enough."
-The Galloping Ghost

Gotcha.....you do not like JF no matter what he does as the Bears Qb.

No, I'm saying I can evaluate Fields' play, his long term potential, and the individual game separately. It's not "Bears win=Fields.good."

Like I said, he was mostly fine today. Fine. Like, he wasn't bad. If that's your standard, so be it. He wasn't the reason the Bears lost. Great. That doesn't make him the long term answer at quarterback. He has sooooo much improvement he needs to make ro.even consider that.

So I have to respectfully disagree. In JF I see a smart, talented Qb, works hard,who is a leader. He has the respect in the locker room, He's shown that he's committed to improving and winning,

He shown many flashes of superior talent on the field as a duel threat Qb, My thing is he just needs the
right coaching that can fully max out his skill set. Look at what Mike McDaniel has done with Tua in Miami. 👈
 

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Fields also committing another costly game losing turnover.
He's done that alot. But this game was over at that point. Sort of like throwing a hail mary with 1 second left. The likelihood to do something there was so low. This one is not on fields. This one is all the conservative approach up 12. I agree with running it down the field when up 9, but youdont just settle for a fg. You try for a td still once in range.
 

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Fields did have 30 seconds and two TO to get into FG range. When will fields ever be clutch? He had a chance and fumbled. Name one time in fields 30 games he was clutch and won a game? You aren’t being honest with yourself

They scored 26 points. That was the 7th points most of any team this week. They had a 12-point lead with 4 minutes left in the game and the defense proceeded to give up 15 points.

In this very game, Tyler Scott dropped a game sealing catch that hit him in the hands. Do you want Fields to go play defense and go catch the ball for Tyler Scott too?
 

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He's done that alot. But this game was over at that point. Sort of like throwing a hail mary with 1 second left. The likelihood to do something there was so low. This one is not on fields. This one is all the conservative approach up 12. I agree with running it down the field when up 9, but youdont just settle for a fg. You try for a td still once in range.
Don’t get me wrong, He played well, but with two timeouts left, there’s still a chance to get to FG range. This is third game this year where Fields had the opportunity to take the Bears down field to tie or take the lead at the end of the game, and he has thrown a pick 6, INT, fumble. If you guys want to hold him to the standards of a franchise “QB” then hold him to those standards, don’t pick and choose when it’s convenient. Stop pampering him.
 

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Question what role Getsy does play in this ?? Please keep it focused on Getsy



Getsy doesn't help, that's for sure. I wish he played more to Fields' strengths. But we saw a lot of rushing yards today, but the points don't follow. Fields ran for a first down deep in Lion's territory and we the went into a shell. No killer instinct.

At the time I said kicking on 4th to go up 12 was the right move, but it was the downs before that that were too conservative.

So what we saw today was JF consistently putting the Bear in position to the tune of a 26-14 lead with 3 min left


"Getsy doesn't help, that's for sure. I wish he played more to Fields' strengths."
-TL1961


What you said here speaks volumes. If your OC isn't maximizing and developing the strengths of the Qb......then that seriously hinders the offense. As well as, suspect play calling.

It's like some unskilled mechanic working on your car prior to a cross country trip and your car stalls out in the middle of no where. LOL .....I'm sure we can agree, there's been a lotta stalling with the Bears.
 

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Wasn't it with 29 seconds left and the Bears having to go nearly the entire length of the field? What team have you been watching where they could go down to FG range in 29 seconds from deep in their endzone?
WTF? Bears were at 25. Needed about 35-40 yards for FG position, not even half the length of the entire field.

Again, we see the extremely slow and lethargic dropback is what hurts Fields here. Hutchinson is lined up wide and not coming from the blind side but might as well be as Fields has his head turned to the left during the whole slow dropback. Can only imagine he's staring down Moore as Kmet is also over that side and open by 10-15 yards and could easily pick up 15 yards or so and get out of bounds to preserve the timeouts. Fields is unaware of Hutchinson who easily gets Fields to fumble for his 33rd time in 34 games.

 

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They scored 26 points. That was the 7th points most of any team this week. They had a 12-point lead with 4 minutes left in the game and the defense proceeded to give up 15 points.

In this very game, Tyler Scott dropped a game sealing catch that hit him in the hands. Do you want Fields to go play defense and go catch the ball for Tyler Scott too?


I remember when we'd consider the Bears an offensive powerhouse if they scored 26 points. Now that's not even enough with a "defensive minded" head coach. Still not a fan of not going for it on 4th and 1 when you're up by 2 scores with a 3-7 record
 

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So what we saw today was JF consistently putting the Bear in position to the tune of a 26-14 lead with 3 min left


"Getsy doesn't help, that's for sure. I wish he played more to Fields' strengths."
-TL1961


What you said here speaks volumes. If your OC isn't maximizing and developing the strengths of the Qb......then that seriously hinders the offense. As well as, suspect play calling.

It's like some unskilled mechanic working on your car prior to a cross country trip and your car stalls out in the middle of no where. LOL .....I'm sure we can agree, there's been a lotta stalling with the Bears.
Saying JF consistently putting the Bears in position is a little over the top. The D picked Goff three times.

One Bears TD drive was 40 yards.

One FG drive was 7 plays 20 yards after taking over at the Lions' 43.

But I don't disagree that Getsy is like an unskilled mechanic working on a car.

Fields doesn't get as much as help as any of us would like. That's true.
 

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