Fox lake shooting, for those in the far NW

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It was suicide:

FOX LAKE, Ill. -- There is new information out of Fox Lake, where it has been six weeks since the death of Lt. Joe Gliniewicz.

WGN Investigates has learned that the village sought approval to pay more than $25,000 to a private detective agency to investigate its former chief of police.

The chief was placed on paid administrative leave after a village administrator started questioning what she called lax discipline of another officer.

That officer was accused of verbally and physically abusing a man in custody. The incident happened in December, but the village review didn't begin until eight months later.

The chief resigned after being put on leave. Two days later Gliniewicz was asked by that administrator to help with an internal police review.

The next day, Gliniewicz died after being shot twice with his own weapon.

Investigators have not ruled out suicide.

The village says its investigation is ongoing.
 

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It was suicide:

FOX LAKE, Ill. -- There is new information out of Fox Lake, where it has been six weeks since the death of Lt. Joe Gliniewicz.

WGN Investigates has learned that the village sought approval to pay more than $25,000 to a private detective agency to investigate its former chief of police.

The chief was placed on paid administrative leave after a village administrator started questioning what she called lax discipline of another officer.

That officer was accused of verbally and physically abusing a man in custody. The incident happened in December, but the village review didn't begin until eight months later.

The chief resigned after being put on leave. Two days later Gliniewicz was asked by that administrator to help with an internal police review.

The next day, Gliniewicz died after being shot twice with his own weapon.

Investigators have not ruled out suicide.

The village says its investigation is ongoing.

I suicide confirmed? It looks like it;'s still being investigated from your quote.
 

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Sources are saying it is indeed a suicide. Press conference tomorrow at 10 am.

If that is the case, this guy is truly a piece of shit. He had a whole town shocked and terrified for nothing. Not to mention all the man hours put it. And to put a phony call to try and set it up to look like a homicide. Innocent people could have been thrown in prison over this. If you don't want to live, pop a shitload of pills or run your car with the garage closed.

Rot in hell, GI Dick.

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Sources are saying it is indeed a suicide. Press conference tomorrow at 10 am.

If that is the case, this guy is truly a piece of shit. He had a whole town shocked and terrified for nothing. Not to mention all the man hours put it. And to put a phony call to try and set it up to look like a homicide. Innocent people could have been thrown in prison over this. If you don't want to live, pop a shitload of pills or run your car with the garage closed.

Rot in hell, GI Dick.

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Coudl've been a set up, sounds like he was gonna throw a lot of cops under the bus after his retirement.

Who knows
 

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Coudl've been a set up, sounds like he was gonna throw a lot of cops under the bus after his retirement.

Who knows

That definitely entered my mind. I doubt we'll ever know. If it was murder, than I take back everything I said.
 

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word is swirling around that he may have been being investigated for things that may have led to prison time.

Regardless, I agree with Tribars sentiment if suicide is the case. The guy is a worthless piece of trash for throwing an entire community under the bus, fucking up lives, and potential getting people hurt or killed in the massive, costly, disorganized clusterfuck that followed.

It is very interesting that they settled the pension with the widow before this- sure was kind of them to allow her to collect despite the guy turning in to a giant turd and fucking the town.
good for her and good for the kids i guess, but if I was a resident paying for that I might be a little pissed at all the wasted money.
 

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He was a dirty piece of garbage. **** him, and **** what he did. press conference is out- theif for years, forging documents, stealing shit, even signing up for dirty websites.

**** everything about that guy.
staged it all.
 

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It's easy to make stuff up about someone after they are dead.
 

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and even easier to make stuff up about people who do not exist at all
Agreed. This is a case that I don't believe anyone except the guilty party will truly know what happened. Whether it was a homocide set up or suicide, each story seems believable to an extent.
 

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3/27/15 – Messages between Gliniewicz and an LFL Executive
JG: “Between you and I, I’m having a great deal of problems with our new village administrator. I’ve had a talk with the chief and he agrees with me. Does the PD have to be the sponsor for the post? I’ve done some research and it’s not evident anywhere that a law enforcement organization has to sponsor an LE post. In fact I’ve seen 3 at competitions that were sponsored by other entities, and even a FD. Thoughts???”
LFL: “No you don’t have to be chartered by the city. Is there a rotary or something out there that would be supportive”
JG: “Yes, I’m working that issue today and through the weekend.. We have a new village administrator that is a power monger and is trying to control everything in the village. We are all looking at our pd retirement options and I need to move the post out of that span of control at least till this person’s contract is up.”
JG: “Thanks and what would you need since we are rechartering, just the organization and organization head info/signature? I’m keeping this under wraps for now, only you the chief, my wife and myself know this and I current want to keep it that way until the final decision is made”

4/14/15 – Messages between Gliniewicz and Individual #1
JG: “I talked to him again, and now thinks this is a knee-jerk reaction, and that when we put in our 2 wks, or set a retirement date, then he will move it…”
#1: “Omfg and in the mean tiem she can do what she wants f***ing a”
#1: “Maybe seeing as we are our on 503c she can’t touch the money and maybe a letter on file from behan stating all is our and the pd and village have no claim”
JG: “Nope, as long as we are sponsored by the pd, and after she makes the village structure change she will have the means and ability to do as she wishes”
#1: “Does he inderstand that then? And maybe we need to hide the funds some how”

05/13/15 – Messages between Gliniewicz and Individual #1

JG: “She hates me and I’ve never said more than 3 sentences to her in the year shes been here… hates the explorer program and is crawling up my ass and the program, chief wont sign off to move it to American legion and if she gets ahold of the checking account, im pretty well [expletive]”
#1: “Hopefully she decides to get a couple of drinks in her and she gets a dui”
JG: She does, but not around here and no one knows where. Trust me ive thoughit through MANY SCENARIOUS from planting things to volo bog!!!”

06/22/15 – Messages between Gliniewicz and Individual #1

JG: “Used the explorer acct for flight, $624.70. IT can wait for awhile, their acct is sitting at $3000’ish now”

06/25/25 – Messages between Gliniewicz and Individual #2

JG: “You are borrowing from that ‘other’ account, when you get back youll have to start dumping money into that account or you will be visiting me in JAIL!! The 1600 and the 77 all came from there…”
JG: “And FYI, all but 1500 of everything borrowed came from that ‘other’ acct, hence why I closed the us bank and opened bmo acct to keep it from being traced… Nad making p300 their own 501c3, no longer considered a village acct.”

06/26/15 – Messages between Gliniewicz and Individual #2
JG: I’m sticking my neck out there with loaning you over $2377.00 to fix your truck specifically and only to help accommodate your summer leave, trip to OK. I would not have otherwise. I can’t even pay for state now cause their account is down to %1578.72, and that’s 4 bodies and 2 advisors at $450 a piece!! Not to mention the $3,055.72 still left to pay for their uniforms… I will need you to do an allotment to their account, at min $100 a month VERY SOON!!
JG: “So if called on the carpet I can say, “we give our explorers and advisors loans from time to time if it is needed, and this is proof it is being paid back” you get whwre I’m coming from? This village administrator hates me and the explorer program. This situation right here would give her the means to CRUCIFY ME it it were discovered. Compound this with “if" I was selected for chief of antioch, i would be leaving here and would have to turn this account over to someone else…
JG: “the 1600 is undocumented, it was cash from boot camp, so there is no check trial to follow, only our sheet that indicates who attended and if they paid. So thus far there is only the check I wrote last night to you that says “loan” in the memo section. All the rest of your left over $$$ I moved to the old explorer credit card and have been making payments on that when I can. This was all to keep you informed of the gravity of the situation, and the necessity to show repayment.

08/31/15 at 9:14 AM – Message from Gliniewicz to Chief Behan
JG: “She has now demanded a complete inventory of exploder central and a financial report…FML

http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loca...inal-Activity-340194422.html#ixzz3qXv1jvPB[1]
 

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Looks like a few extra people are burned pretty badly in this as well, individuals 1 and 2 better enjoy freedom while they can,maybe hang out with the LFL executive.

The mentioning of the wife may be a problem for her as well- if she was complicit she may be screwed.

All in all the sums seem pretty damn miniscule compared to the shitstorm it brought. Killing yourself over a few grand, plotting to defraud the community with a staged suicide, costing the community millions, and worst of all, possibly costing people their freedom?
**** this **** stain.


What I keep circling back to is this- at 8 am on a tuesday, in the town of fox lake, in that particular part of fox lake... 2 white males and a black male is a pretty uncommon grouping to be walking around. hell... 3 adult males period would be odd on foot in that area at that time. it is not pedestrian friendly, and it in essence doesnt lead to much of anywhere or from anywhere... no convenience stores or anything would be easily accessible via that route from any residences.

With that in mind, a group of 2 white males and one black male were caught on video walking in that area, identified, and questioned.
That my friends is no coincidence.

This sack of shit most likely saw the group while making his final drive to his re picked spot, and as a final cunty move, decided to pin his "murder" on people he saw on his way in.

Those who know fox lake and that area understand- the likelihood of the cop randomly making up 2 white guys and one black guy as "suspects", and by sheer coincidence there being 2 white guys and a black guy on foot in that area... that is highly improbable.

that right there is inhuman. Those random pedestrians could have been killed or locked up for life.
 

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Looks like a few extra people are burned pretty badly in this as well, individuals 1 and 2 better enjoy freedom while they can,maybe hang out with the LFL executive.

The mentioning of the wife may be a problem for her as well- if she was complicit she may be screwed.

All in all the sums seem pretty damn miniscule compared to the shitstorm it brought. Killing yourself over a few grand, plotting to defraud the community with a staged suicide, costing the community millions, and worst of all, possibly costing people their freedom?
**** this **** stain.


What I keep circling back to is this- at 8 am on a tuesday, in the town of fox lake, in that particular part of fox lake... 2 white males and a black male is a pretty uncommon grouping to be walking around. hell... 3 adult males period would be odd on foot in that area at that time. it is not pedestrian friendly, and it in essence doesnt lead to much of anywhere or from anywhere... no convenience stores or anything would be easily accessible via that route from any residences.

With that in mind, a group of 2 white males and one black male were caught on video walking in that area, identified, and questioned.
That my friends is no coincidence.

This sack of shit most likely saw the group while making his final drive to his re picked spot, and as a final cunty move, decided to pin his "murder" on people he saw on his way in.

Those who know fox lake and that area understand- the likelihood of the cop randomly making up 2 white guys and one black guy as "suspects", and by sheer coincidence there being 2 white guys and a black guy on foot in that area... that is highly improbable.

that right there is inhuman. Those random pedestrians could have been killed or locked up for life.

This guy is here a textbook case of a bad cop.
 

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So the Republicans are going to get angry that this guy was looking for a handout right? Dying in the line of duty means your family gets paid, just another welfare queen looking for a hand out right?
 

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So the Republicans are going to get angry that this guy was looking for a handout right? Dying in the line of duty means your family gets paid, just another welfare queen looking for a hand out right?
Did he fill the cruiser tank with ethanol before he went looking for 2 whites and a black dude?
 

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His wife and one of his sons are under investigation for spending village funds for personal use.

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