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[TL1961]

Why would jones remain on the bears, during a contract year, if they peg a rookie in as the starter at LT? I get he only gets so much say, but there would be a team out there who would want him for sure.

The moment they draft an OT at #10, Jones and his agent will likely request a trade if he's not the projected starter game 1.

He's not sitting on the bench being a swing tackle after seeing a guy who's started 5 games last year make 15m/yr

You keep acting like players can just go wherever they want, whenever they want.

This isn't college.

 

[zabavka]

Why would jones remain on the bears, during a contract year, if they peg a rookie in as the starter at LT? I get he only gets so much say, but there would be a team out there who would want him for sure.

The moment they draft an OT at #10, Jones and his agent will likely request a trade if he's not the projected starter game 1.

He's not sitting on the bench being a swing tackle after seeing a guy who's started 5 games last year make 15m/yr

Probably cause no one will trade for a guy who blew out his ankle without knowing if he's still can play

 

[dabears70]

Why would jones remain on the bears, during a contract year, if they peg a rookie in as the starter at LT? I get he only gets so much say, but there would be a team out there who would want him for sure.

The moment they draft an OT at #10, Jones and his agent will likely request a trade if he's not the projected starter game 1.

He's not sitting on the bench being a swing tackle after seeing a guy who's started 5 games last year make 15m/yr

Jones wouldn't have a choice and hasn't created enough power in his playing career for the Bears to have to give in if he demands a trade. Now if whoever we draft to play LT shows he can play it at the NFL level then we can trade Jones by the trade deadline because we want to and not because Jones has demanded a trade.

 

[Canth]

Yeah, I get that Jones may not be happy if they try to draft his replacement at 10. However, his current health status takes away most of his leverage right now as far as any trade demand.

 

[DefNextYear]

Yeah, I get that Jones may not be happy if they try to draft his replacement at 10. However, his current health status takes away most of his leverage right now as far as any trade demand.

It’s not that you have to appease him. It’s that keeping an average player to sulk on the bench doesn’t help the team. Him being an insurance policy isn’t really worth that alone.

If there’s enough value, just trade him and move on. The decision to me should really be about maximizing compensation. If they can get a better comp pick by keeping him, that’s fine too.

 

[TL1961]

It’s not that you have to appease him. It’s that keeping an average player to sulk on the bench doesn’t help the team. Him being an insurance policy isn’t really worth that alone.

If there’s enough value, just trade him and move on. The decision to me should really be about maximizing compensation. If they can get a better comp pick by keeping him, that’s fine too.

I don't understand fans simultaneously wanting the team to add depth, yet thinking every nonstarter should be traded because they'll sulk.

 

[remydat]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1908910294388158804

Last year on rookie deal, deep RB draft and battled injuries. However will still just be 24 this year. I would give them a 5th or 6th round pick for him assuming he still has that breakaway speed.

 

[dabears70]

It’s not that you have to appease him. It’s that keeping an average player to sulk on the bench doesn’t help the team. Him being an insurance policy isn’t really worth that alone.

If there’s enough value, just trade him and move on. The decision to me should really be about maximizing compensation. If they can get a better comp pick by keeping him, that’s fine too.

To be fair the talk of Jones demanding a trade or sulking if we did draft a LT is all just made up speculation by CCS anyway. Maybe he'd act like a Pro and deal with it knowing he's about to be a free agent and will get a deal somewhere in the following offseason.

 

[DefNextYear]

I don't understand fans simultaneously wanting the team to add depth, yet thinking every nonstarter should be traded because they'll sulk.

The depth would be whoever loses between the rookie and Kiran. You don’t need a 3rd LT who is young and a former starter, especially if he’s going to leave in a season to start somewhere else. The depth we should want is the depth we’re developing on cheap contracts for years to come.

 

[TL1961]

The depth would be whoever loses between the rookie and Kiran. You don’t need a 3rd LT who is young and a former starter, especially if he’s going to leave in a season to start somewhere else. The depth we should want is the depth we’re developing on cheap contracts for years to come.

I get that you want to be developing younger guys on rookie contracts, but trading away your best depth OT if he loses his job just because he's sad doesn't make sense from the team standpoint.

Half of CCS has steadfastly claimed Jones didn't need to be replaced as starter, but now if the Bears replace him they need to immediately dump him?

If you get something back, sure, but that's unlikely.

 

[DefNextYear]

To be fair the talk of Jones demanding a trade or sulking if we did draft a LT is all just made up speculation by CCS anyway. Maybe he'd act like a Pro and deal with it knowing he's about to be a free agent and will get a deal somewhere in the following offseason.

Yea, definitely. I agree with that. More likely than not, he probably wouldn’t be a problem. It goes back to the Fields comparison though. QB is a different animal, but it’s somewhat the same. Just move on. When you pick a guy at 10, the other guy is done for…

But my main point really is I’d look for max value cause I don’t see the point in keeping him just for insurance for a single season. If the value is keeping him to start and get a comp pick, fine. If the better value is to get a draft pick now, then do it. I think Braxton would get paid well based on what Tennessee gave Moore, so he may bring back a good comp pick. That said, I’d hope for a 3rd or 4th to move him now… if the value is less, I’d probably ride it out.

 

[dabears70]

Yea, definitely. I agree with that. More likely than not, he probably wouldn’t be a problem. It goes back to the Fields comparison though. QB is a different animal, but it’s somewhat the same. Just move on. When you pick a guy at 10, the other guy is done for…

But my main point really is I’d look for max value cause I don’t see the point in keeping him just for insurance for a single season. If the value is keeping him to start and get a comp pick, fine. If the better value is to get a draft pick now, then do it. I think Braxton would get paid well based on what Tennessee gave Moore, so he may bring back a good comp pick. That said, I’d hope for a 3rd or 4th to move him now… if the value is less, I’d probably ride it out.

The value could be best actually into the season when someone loses their LT to injury or their LT isn't getting the job done which would be best for the Bears because it would give us some games to find out if whoever we drafted to take his place can actually play LT in the NFL.

I'm with you on the thing for Poles should be to get the absolute max value for him even if that's holding him and getting a comp pick for him.

 

[dabears70]

I get that you want to be developing younger guys on rookie contracts, but trading away your best depth OT if he loses his job just because he's sad doesn't make sense from the team standpoint.

Half of CCS has steadfastly claimed Jones didn't need to be replaced as starter, but now if the Bears replace him they need to immediately dump him?

If you get something back, sure, but that's unlikely.

You think it's unlikely we would get anything for B.Jones? I can't see how we couldn't at the very least get a 4th for him and really think we could get more, maybe a 3rd or a 4th plus another pick.

 

[DefNextYear]

I get that you want to be developing younger guys on rookie contracts, but trading away your best depth OT if he loses his job just because he's sad doesn't make sense from the team standpoint.

Half of CCS has steadfastly claimed Jones didn't need to be replaced as starter, but now if the Bears replace him they need to immediately dump him?

If you get something back, sure, but that's unlikely.

Bottom line is Braxton isn’t and likely never will be a top half of the league starting LT. We can claim anything at CCS, but we’re fans and mostly clouded judgement… biased and seeing the best in our guys. Braxton also has the benefit of PFF saying he’s pretty good. All that adds up to us talking about him better than he’s probably seen by the league, or even by Poles et al.

If we keep him, we’ll have the annual argument about if he sucks or not cause the reality is we can all see with our eyes that he’s not great. We all know he’s going to be the weak link on our OL at the most important position on that line.

And Braxton is absolutely worth something in a trade. If Dan Moore Jr can get like 21 million a year for his average play, then Braxton can get some kind of flier from teams desperate to have something serviceable at LT. The question is really how much is the value and how much does the injury change that value.

 

[msadows]

To be fair the talk of Jones demanding a trade or sulking if we did draft a LT is all just made up speculation by CCS anyway. Maybe he'd act like a Pro and deal with it knowing he's about to be a free agent and will get a deal somewhere in the following offseason.

So he's just going to sit on his hands and not say anything after a guy who started 12 games in his career made 15m/yr?

Yea, no shot braxton is going to sit down and be the swing during a contract year considering what mediocre tackles are making in FA.

 

[dabears70]

So he's just going to sit on his hands and not say anything after a guy who started 12 games in his career made 15m/yr?

Yea, no shot braxton is going to sit down and be the swing during a contract year considering what mediocre tackles are making in FA.

Didn't say he wouldn't, just saying you saying he would is you speculating which you just did again.

 

[thenewguy]

So he's just going to sit on his hands and not say anything after a guy who started 12 games in his career made 15m/yr?

Yea, no shot braxton is going to sit down and be the swing during a contract year considering what mediocre tackles are making in FA.

What is he going to do, enter the transfer portal?

 

[msadows]

What is he going to do, enter the transfer portal?

Request a trade and hold out, like every other nfl player that wants a trade?

There are plenty of teams who need a left tackle and he's proven for 3 years he's a solid one.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Why would jones remain on the bears, during a contract year, if they peg a rookie in as the starter at LT? I get he only gets so much say, but there would be a team out there who would want him for sure.

The moment they draft an OT at #10, Jones and his agent will likely request a trade if he's not the projected starter game 1.

He's not sitting on the bench being a swing tackle after seeing a guy who's started 5 games last year make 15m/yr

Some of you don’t understand the concepts of depth and competition do you?

 

[msadows]

Some of you don’t understand the concepts of depth and competition do you?

This isnt a depth situation, he's been an average NFL left tackle for 3 years. How many nfl teams have that as "depth"? How many players are going to sit on the bench in a contract year after seeing players worse than them make 20m/yr?

There would be teams wanting to trade for him the moment the bears take a tackle at #10