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Jenkins is trying to get him to sign with Chi on Twitter.

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@Jarvis99jenkins I know breh... I'm ready to get goin fareal....where did you end up signin

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@Mason_Foster bout to head to the CHI right now, gon head and make that move wit me

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Plus the moves should not have really impacted our salary cap much since only the top 51 contracts are counted. Really, just Foster's contract will go against the cap. We should still have over $10 million left, maybe more, depending on what the contract numbers look like.

The bears have 9mill in space according to spotrac and thats after the rookie pool. The only thing unaccounted for will be foster's deal which is still unknown how much he got. Like bears26 said only foster will go against the cap, i'd expect the bears to start to intensify their pursuit of wisnieski and/or barksdale...They could also cut garza and save 1.1mill in space if they need the extra room to sign both.
 

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if I had to make a list, of all the positions the Bears need an upgrade/ help at . WR and guard would be last on that list.
there's no way the only position worth picking at 7 is a WR.

Which is why I didn't like the Marshall trade. It created a hole where there wasn't one.
 
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The old drafting for need approach...you are a draft rookie.

Every team drafts for need. Go back and look at every draft. You will see plenty of teams draft for need.

To do otherwise would be stupid.

If the Lions had an early pick 3 years ago and the BPA was a WR - would they take him?

If the Colts had an early pick and the BPA is a quarterback, would they take him? When their defense gave up like 587 points to NE in the playoffs?

If this was back in time - say 2005 and the Bears had a young, healthy Brian Urlacher manning the D at MLB. Would it make sense to take the BPA if that BPA was an MLB?

BPA is one of those silly things that people hear over and over and keep repeating.
 

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Free Agency: Five Best Signings
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/03/24/free-agency-five-best-signings/

Pernell McPhee, DE/OLB, Chicago Bears

Coming off a strong season with the Baltimore Ravens, McPhee adds a valuable chess piece to the Bears’ front-7. It’s tough to pigeonhole a position for McPhee – he finished with the third-highest pass rushing grade among 3-4 OLBs at +23.1 – but it was his versatility up front that made him an attractive free agent commodity. He lined up at outside linebacker on 230 snaps, defensive end (3 or 4-man line) for 204 snaps and even playing inside linebacker for 149 snaps, showing that he can win in multiple roles. His ability to move around certainly helped his production as the Ravens used him to find favorable matchups, but that’s a big part of McPhee’s value. If the Bears continue to use him in this way, they’ll have added a pass rushing presence to go along with last year’s free agent signings Willie Young and Jared Allen.

We have some concerns internally that McPhee can hold up as an every down run stopper, but he may not need to. He’s certainly no slouch in that area with positive grades the last two seasons, but playing the run has been more of an afterthought in his situational pass rushing role. If the Bears try to get 800 or so snaps out of McPhee just to get their money’s worth, they may be disappointed, but if deployed in a similar manner as he was in Baltimore, McPhee should cause opposing offenses headaches while making the rest of the pieces in Chicago’s front-7 better in the process.

Yes. This!

I wasn't able to draw my own conclusions about the signing. I need the pasty guys in flats in London to tell me!
 

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I don't think your understanding this...That's all well and great. You are correct but when it comes to the draft, you just have to get TALENT. That's all it is about. Why take the chance on a shittier player who is less likely to pan out when you have a blue chip, star in the making WR sitting right there for the taking?

I am pretty sure the Giants, Bills, Buccanneers and Panthers were all pretty happy with the wide receivers they picked in the first round last year.

Yes, and none are winning a SB anytime soon.
 

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Ohh and Calvin Johnson, Dez Bryant, Antonio Brown, Jordy Nelson, Kelvin Benjamin, A.J Green and Demaryius Thomas were all in the playoffs last year...

Gronkowski is pretty much a WR and he was there too.

You know who wasn't? J.J Watt, Justin Houston, Mario Williams, Robert Quinn, Connor Barwin, Ryan Kerrigan.

We could play this game all day.

Kelvin Benjamin is in elite WR in the NFL?
 

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You mean the team that drafted 4 WRs in the first round out of 6 years?

Yes. The moves that were regarded as some of the worst draft moves in the history of the NFL.

That is one example. We can provide countless other examples.

The Lions took Eric Ebron last year in the first. They needed a TE. Was he best player on the board? No.

The Jags took Bortles at 3. They needed a QB. Was he the best player available? No.

The point? It happens every single season. Teams draft for need and not solely 'best player available'.

But let's play a hypothetical - Colts have the 29th pick. Let's just say that Mariotta, for whatever reason, drops and he's considered 'BPA'. Colts have massive needs on defense and need to get younger at RB.

Since they have a once in a lifetime QB on the payroll, do they draft Mariotta since he'd be the BPA, or do they draft the best defensive player available to fill those needs?
 

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You have to admit he had an excellent year for a rookie, especially with a mediocre passer throwing to him.

He did.

That's quite different than saying he's an 'elite WR'. He may get there one day. As of now, he's a rookie who had a great season and has the potential to be an all-Pro.
 

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.....can we slowly reel Wisniewski in.....?!









Barksdale too......would solve a few problems.....
 
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Every team drafts for need. Go back and look at every draft. You will see plenty of teams draft for need.

To do otherwise would be stupid.

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You draft for need at a position of need. You could have 3-5 major needs and you pick the best player out of them. With the Bears they have so many needs that they could go essentially go BPA at all positions. OLB,CB,S,ILB,DT,DE,WR, (in no order).
 

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You draft for need at a position of need. You could have 3-5 major needs and you pick the best player out of them. With the Bears they have so many needs that they could go essentially go BPA at all positions. OLB,CB,S,ILB,DT,DE,WR, (in no order).

Agreed. Hence the Fuller pick last year.

BPA for position of need is not the same thing as BPA. Teams draft BPA for position of need. As they should.

As for your list, you forgot RB, C, RT, TE.

Translation: Bears had a SHIT ton of holes to fill. Unfortunately, they created another one to fill by trading #15.
 

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Agreed. Hence the Fuller pick last year.

BPA for position of need is not the same thing as BPA. Teams draft BPA for position of need. As they should.

As for your list, you forgot RB, C, RT, TE.

Translation: Bears had a SHIT ton of holes to fill. Unfortunately, they created another one to fill by trading #15.

RB and TE arnt "major" needs. And im still holding out hope for Wisniewski and some RT competition.
 

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Which is why I didn't like the Marshall trade. It created a hole where there wasn't one.

Doesn't matter if the team can't function with him here. What does he help us if he's suspended instead? He's a player but he's also a problem and not part of our future. The dude turned on what was supposedly his best friend in the game. What's next? He praises the new regime as best ever and his team mates tentatively wait for the other shoe to drop. The you're not worthy to question me in the locker room shit he gave Gould was 'special'. I want his talent but after last year he's worn out his welcome. I expect he'll do well with a fresh start in NY but he was done here, just like twice before.
 
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That's just it. He makes everything look easy. He just does his job, but to say he isn't explosive isn't true. He reminds me of Marvin Harrison. He changes gears nicely and often times leaves his corner in the dust.


https://youtu.be/I3X3h8p-_Xo
Ive seen his highlight reel a few times and watch him plenty. Every receiver with decent speed in this draft looks equally as smooth or more so.

Parker, Perriman, Coates looks equally as good at getting open and running with defenders. Even if Cooper is better is the drop off that great?

Strong and Becham brings NFL size.
 

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But let's play a hypothetical - Colts have the 29th pick. Let's just say that Mariotta, for whatever reason, drops and he's considered 'BPA'. Colts have massive needs on defense and need to get younger at RB.

Since they have a once in a lifetime QB on the payroll, do they draft Mariotta since he'd be the BPA, or do they draft the best defensive player available to fill those needs?

I would think that if a QB that other teams coveted fell to them, they would be spending a lot of time listening to trade proposals.
 

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