Free Agent Buzz

[PolarBear]

if I had to make a list, of all the positions the Bears need an upgrade/ help at . WR and guard would be last on that list.
there's no way the only position worth picking at 7 is a WR.

The old drafting for need approach...you are a draft rookie.

 

[-Cago34-]

The nice part of these moves is that it really does open up the draft a lot at the top end.

The Bears could use a true difference making pass rusher, but they have enough guys at the position.

The Bears could use a 5 technique, but they have guys who can play and they could add a 2nd-3rd round pick to compete and develop.

The Bears could use a safety, but this draft sucks.


With the number of defensive needs that were addressed today I think the possibility of WR went up as well.

With the new moves, how about me, you, and kangaroofucker have a mock draft champ do-over.

If you win, you reclaim King of the mocks status.

If I win, I want you to post my mock on the front page of CCS because you have the writer symbol.

If kangaroofucker wins, he'll still be a kangaroofucker, so let's not even consider him as a possibility.

#GAMEFACE

 

[strobiwan]

The old drafting for need approach...you are a draft rookie.

oh bullshit. BPA is relative. some schemes require a different type of player and some position groups carry a lot more value than others.
for fuck sakes, people were spending top 5 picks on running backs 10 years ago.
Any asshole can say just pick the best player available.

wait for it








I think we should just go BPA.......iam officially a pro draft genius!!!!!!!!

 

[WindyCity]

With the new moves, how about me, you, and kangaroofucker have a mock draft champ do-over.

If you win, you reclaim King of the mocks status.

If I win, I want you to post my mock on the front page of CCS because you have the writer symbol.

If kangaroofucker wins, he'll still be a kangaroofucker, so let's not even consider him as a possibility.

#GAMEFACE

Sounds good.

But you may need to dial back the Cago charm in the write ups.

 

[-Cago34-]

Sounds good.

Deal. You better bring the swag cuz last time I e-kicked your ass by a TD & 2 pt conversion, jus say'n.

 

[Breaston Plants]

I could now see a potential trade with Cleveland. We get their #12 pick, a 3rd and a 4th. Then we take Trae Waynes. We are thin at CB currently... We get to bolster that spot and then have 2 extra mid round picks in the top half of the round to stock the cupboard with prospects in other areas of need. Might even allow us to snag a QB more easily.

 

[Doubledown]

Free Agency: Five Best Signings
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/03/24/free-agency-five-best-signings/

Pernell McPhee, DE/OLB, Chicago Bears

Coming off a strong season with the Baltimore Ravens, McPhee adds a valuable chess piece to the Bears’ front-7. It’s tough to pigeonhole a position for McPhee – he finished with the third-highest pass rushing grade among 3-4 OLBs at +23.1 – but it was his versatility up front that made him an attractive free agent commodity. He lined up at outside linebacker on 230 snaps, defensive end (3 or 4-man line) for 204 snaps and even playing inside linebacker for 149 snaps, showing that he can win in multiple roles. His ability to move around certainly helped his production as the Ravens used him to find favorable matchups, but that’s a big part of McPhee’s value. If the Bears continue to use him in this way, they’ll have added a pass rushing presence to go along with last year’s free agent signings Willie Young and Jared Allen.

We have some concerns internally that McPhee can hold up as an every down run stopper, but he may not need to. He’s certainly no slouch in that area with positive grades the last two seasons, but playing the run has been more of an afterthought in his situational pass rushing role. If the Bears try to get 800 or so snaps out of McPhee just to get their money’s worth, they may be disappointed, but if deployed in a similar manner as he was in Baltimore, McPhee should cause opposing offenses headaches while making the rest of the pieces in Chicago’s front-7 better in the process.

 

[RisWell]

I could now see a potential trade with Cleveland. We get their #12 pick, a 3rd and a 4th. Then we take Trae Waynes. We are thin at CB currently... We get to bolster that spot and then have 2 extra mid round picks in the top half of the round to stock the cupboard with prospects in other areas of need. Might even allow us to snag a QB more easily.

If Bears like Waynes you gotta take him @ 7

 

[RiDLer80]

I could now see a potential trade with Cleveland. We get their #12 pick, a 3rd and a 4th. Then we take Trae Waynes. We are thin at CB currently... We get to bolster that spot and then have 2 extra mid round picks in the top half of the round to stock the cupboard with prospects in other areas of need. Might even allow us to snag a QB more easily.

Why does everybody assume that Cleveland wants to give up their two picks to move up a few spots?

 

[strobiwan]

If Bears like Waynes you gotta take him @ 7

that makes sense to me. I still really like Shelton to.

 

[Breaston Plants]

Why does everybody assume that Cleveland wants to give up their two picks to move up a few spots?

I didn't say their two 1st rounders, they wouldn't do that... I said one first, a 3rd and a 4th. This works as far as trade value points are concerned. I think if Cooper, White, or Mariota are there, it's a trade that makes sense for both sides.

 

[Breaston Plants]

Then you could be looking at something like this:

1.) T Waynes CB
2.) T Coleman RB
3.) D Randall FS
3.) Havenstein OT
4.) S Mannion QB
4.) H Anderson DE
5.) WR (I like Conley from GA)
6.) J Sylvestre LB

 

[pseudonym]

It's all based on the Bears big board. For example, here are the top seven players at NFL.com, in order by ranking:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/track...ar-drafteventpage-tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-grade

9.00-10 Once-in-lifetime player
8.00-8.99 Perennial All-Pro
7.50-7.99 Future All-Pro
7.00-7.49 Pro Bowl-caliber player
6.50-6.99 Chance to become Pro Bowl-caliber player
6.00-6.49 Should become instant starter

Williams 7.6
Cooper 7.1
Fowler 7.0
White 6.7
Ray 6.6
Beasley 6.6
Gregory 6.6

So, if this was your big board for the top seven picks, and Cooper was there, assuming Williams is long gone, YOU TAKE HIM. BPA. NOW, if Williams, Cooper, White and Fowler are all gone, and you are down to Ray, Beasley and Gregory all at 6.6...then you have to go to your next variable. Maybe it's need, maybe it's something else. I'm sure every team is different, or has their own ranking so there is no way to tie.

More and more I think we're going Cooper at 7. And after the FA moves (and I don't think we're quite done yet) I'd be okay with that.

 

[didshereallysaythat]

It would be nice to get a RB, QB and C in the middle rounds.

 

[PolarBear]

oh bullshit. BPA is relative. some schemes require a different type of player and some position groups carry a lot more value than others.
for fuck sakes, people were spending top 5 picks on running backs 10 years ago.
Any asshole can say just pick the best player available.

wait for it








I think we should just go BPA.......iam officially a pro draft genius!!!!!!!!

Sometimes it's just that simple. No need to over complicate things. Rank the players, cross them off as they get drafted and take the guy at the top when it's your turn to pick. With the amount of holes in this team on both sides of the ball, I think you can comfortably do that.

 

[PolarBear]

that makes sense to me. I still really like Shelton to.

So you want to take a 2 down player over a blue chip WR? After his pro day, Shelton doesn't match up to the elite guys athletically like Poe, Ngata and Wilfork.

 

[strobiwan]

So you want to take a 2 down player over a blue chip WR? After his pro day, Shelton doesn't match up to the elite guys athletically like Poe, Ngata and Wilfork.

but yet a lot of experts compare him to Wilfork and Ngata........fucking weird

 

[Svic]

but yet a lot of experts compare him to Wilfork and Ngata........fucking weird

That really stopped because it really showed he is not athletic as wilfork or poe. He can't compare to ngata different type of players

 

[Enasic]

The way I look at it like this. And please, chime in if you disagree. BPA is tricky. It's not like you're picking with the fortune of hindsight. The Bears defense was utter trash the past two seasons. We've addressed that by first and foremost, getting one of the best DC who's replacing one of the worst DC. We've also probably downgraded offensively THUS FAR. Now, will the best offensive player be head and shoulders above the best defensive player? Furthermore, if the philosophy is to be run heavy and not have Jay be the centerpiece of the offense (which is the correct decision), is a guy like Cooper more valuable to the team than say Fowler or Beasley who somehow got rated lower by NFL.com? My answer is, hell fucking no. But beyond that, the difference in talent in the top 10 is very minimal, and BPA gets very foggy. And like I said, the pieces have to fit with your team. Someone like Cooper or White wouldn't bring as much value to us in comparison to a team who is deficient in WR and has a QB who possesses the ability to go through progressions and makes his reads by going to what the defense gives him. Jay is not that guy and he's not going to be asked to be that guy.

To me, WR is off the board at our pick. There are no elite offensive lineman that I would take there either. Gurley is way too much of a risk with his injury history and not to mention, this is one of the deepest drafts for RB in quite some time I believe. I think the Bears should either draft the best defensive prospect available, or trade down and get another pick. However, I would possibly change my stance if Pace wasn't sold on Jeffrey or wasn't confident on extending him. I personally think Alshon will be here for a long time and he should be. He's a legit number 1 and you could add pieces, like a 2nd TE, a deep threat, and you're pretty much good to go. I think Wilson should be solid and Royal will play a key role.

 

[strobiwan]

That really stopped because it really showed he is not athletic as wilfork or poe. He can't compare to ngata different type of players

there is still a lot of Wilfork comparisons. Shelton is bigger but not as fast and agile, about the same strength, same arm length, better vert. how ever since he ran such a horrible 40 time everyone is down on him now. which is kinda nuts considering the position he plays.