Game 1 Stanley Cup Finals Bruins at Blackhawks 6/12/13 7 PM CT

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DMelt36

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The Bruins are good, but they aren't Hawks good.

How'd you to come around to this view after the Wings' series? Is it because of the belief among some that the Eastern Conference is rather inferior to the West this season or something else?
 

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How'd you to come around to this view after the Wings' series? Is it because of the belief among some that the Eastern Conference is rather inferior to the West this season or something else?
Well, Mike Babcock scares the living hell outta me as a coach. That was Q's biggest challenge considering Babcock is supremely that much better a coach. Claude Julien, not so much. My personal opinion is that the Hawks can win just on skill alone, but they could be out coached. Q did the right things to get past the Wings. I was more worried about the Wings then I will be the Bruins.



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False.

And if you are under estimating the Bruins that badly, I bet you haven't watched any Bruins games this year and especially this playoff run.

Speaking of which.

:shifty:

Can anyone give me a crash course on the Bruins outside of Seguin and the goalie that allowed 2 goals in the ECF.
 

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The Bruins are good, but they aren't Hawks good.
Then explain why they've been to two Cups in the last three years.

While the Hawks had two consecutive 1st round exits before this season.

Yep, they aren't Hawks good. Give me a break.
 
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Then explain why they've been to two Cups in the last three years.

While the Hawks had two consecutive 1st round exits before this season.

Yep, they aren't Hawks good. Give me a break.

The Bs have been to two Finals the past 3 years? Oif.
 

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False.

And if you are under estimating the Bruins that badly, I bet you haven't watched any Bruins games this year and especially this playoff run.
Actually, I have watched the Bruins, thank you. And what I see is a team similarly built to the Kings with the exception that they have a guy on defense who is over seven feet tall on skates.

The Leafs exposed them as a slow team, which is funny considering the Laffs are trying to rebuild themselves into a team similar in style to the Hawks. The Bruins sure didn't have the wheels to keep up with them, nor did the Laffs have the defense to stop them, nor a goalie who could stop a puck when it mattered. That's what I saw that round, and pardon me for putting a bit more stock into a fast team pushing the Bruins to the brink then a top heavy with two star team that shot themselves in the foot because their main player is a cry baby.

Not that what has happened in other series actually matters in the finals, it doesn't. Nor is there some sort of mutual handicap placed upon the Bruins name on the score board for past deeds. Shit like that logic works for imbeciles with a insecurity complex, not me. They won a Cup, great, they know how to win, but they only won one, so they also know how to lose. I stated earlier the Pens wernt shit, somebody here also said I was underestimating them, well, guess what?

Whats next? Snooping around at Johnnys to see if I am manning an umbrella power play?



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Then explain why they've been to two Cups in the last three years.

While the Hawks had two consecutive 1st round exits before this season.

Yep, they aren't Hawks good. Give me a break.

Da **** does last year mean this year?



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Actually, I have watched the Bruins, thank you. And what I see is a team similarly built to the Kings with the exception that they have a guy on defense who is over seven feet tall on skates.

The Leafs exposed them as a slow team, which is funny considering the Laffs are trying to rebuild themselves into a team similar in style to the Hawks. The Bruins sure didn't have the wheels to keep up with them, nor did the Laffs have the defense to stop them, nor a goalie who could stop a puck when it mattered. That's what I saw that round, and pardon me for putting a bit more stock into a fast team pushing the Bruins to the brink then a top heavy with two star team that shot themselves in the foot because their main player is a cry baby.

Not that what has happened in other series actually matters in the finals, it doesn't. Nor is there some sort of mutual handicap placed upon the Bruins name on the score board for past deeds. Shit like that logic works for imbeciles with a insecurity complex, not me. They won a Cup, great, they know how to win, but they only won one, so they also know how to lose. I stated earlier the Pens wernt shit, somebody here also said I was underestimating them, well, guess what?

Whats next? Snooping around at Johnnys to see if I am manning an umbrella power play?



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I think another major difference is an actual, NHL-worthy offense capable of scoring more than one or two goals a game.

But I also don't think the Bruins have seen a defense quite as strong as they're going to see in this series.
 

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I think dmelt is using tapatalk claiming his spot for the ticker tape parade already....i think i saw him this morning. thats pretty much what im getting out of the last few pages.
 

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Leafs exposed them as a slow team?

Yeah, that's why they went on & wiped the floor with the Rangers & Pens.

If the Bruins do win the Cup, let me know your opinion of how they aren't "Hawks good".
 
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Actually, I have watched the Bruins, thank you. And what I see is a team similarly built to the Kings with the exception that they have a guy on defense who is over seven feet tall on skates.

The Leafs exposed them as a slow team, which is funny considering the Laffs are trying to rebuild themselves into a team similar in style to the Hawks. The Bruins sure didn't have the wheels to keep up with them, nor did the Laffs have the defense to stop them, nor a goalie who could stop a puck when it mattered. That's what I saw that round, and pardon me for putting a bit more stock into a fast team pushing the Bruins to the brink then a top heavy with two star team that shot themselves in the foot because their main player is a cry baby.

Not that what has happened in other series actually matters in the finals, it doesn't. Nor is there some sort of mutual handicap placed upon the Bruins name on the score board for past deeds. Shit like that logic works for imbeciles with a insecurity complex, not me. They won a Cup, great, they know how to win, but they only won one, so they also know how to lose. I stated earlier the Pens wernt shit, somebody here also said I was underestimating them, well, guess what?

Whats next? Snooping around at Johnnys to see if I am manning an umbrella power play?



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Haha.... No, seriously, hahahahahaha.

Wow, what an ignorant opinion. And by ignorant, I don't mean it as an insult thrown around, I mean it as you just have no clue about what you are talking about.

The Bruins have a better defense then the Kings. Raask isn't as decorated as Quick, but with a .985 save % against the Penguins, he is playing like Quick on steroids. The Bruins have a MUCH better offense then we saw last round in the Kings. Granted, Richards was out, Stoll was coming back from a concussion, and Kopitar was injured, so if you want to compare them "on paper" its more even, but the way they are playing, Boston is much deadlier on offense and has a lot more depth. Boston is just as good on the PK as us. The "amazing" Penguin PP went 0 for 15 against Boston. Boston is a TON better on the faceoffs, with Bergeron, #1 faceoff man the past two years and last years Selke winner, going against Toews, who has a hand injury he isn't disclosing. Their second and fourth line guys are above 54%.

Please show me where Toronto showed that Boston doesn't have speed? I'm encouraged by Toronto's series vs Boston because Toronto is a balanced team, much like we are, but in no way did Toronto blow by Boston left and right. Stop speaking in meatball, radio-type generalizations and lay some facts down, all you are doing is talking out of your ass.
 

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Read one page of this thread and it sounds like Boston will sweep the Hawks.... anyone who thinks the Hawks can win are fucking insane.... I guess I won't even tune in to the games... :lol: /sarcasm

They have not even played a game yet and people are talking up Boston so they can be the "I told you so" crowd.... how bout the Hawks are a really good team that has fought hard and played well and could certainly beat Boston.... geeze
 

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Haha.... No, seriously, hahahahahaha.

Wow, what an ignorant opinion. And by ignorant, I don't mean it as an insult thrown around, I mean it as you just have no clue about what you are talking about.
Of course. A generic cop out when somebody has an opinion that doesn't agree with your very own is something to be expected on a message board. It happens. I get it. You want everybody to know that you don't take the Bruins lightly and must push that opinion on anybody who reads here so you get to call others "ignorant" or throw out the prized "you have no clue" generic in a similar fashion to one of the limpwits here who also stated "you haven't played hockey, you don't know anything" or how the vaunted Johnny's ice house core of beer leaguers know how to run an umbrella power play so much better then the Hawks players and coaches. Good job placing yourself in that group of delusional, fanboi rhetorical, self absorbed futility while I will keep clearly stating the Hawks are a better team and that past accomplishments during this playoff run don't mean jack shit.

The Bruins arent as good as the Hawks, deal with it.
The Bruins have a better defense then the Kings.
The Bruins have Chara, he is a lot better then Doughty. The Kings had a group of six that were better then the Bruins who are icing three rookies and have a pairing of Boychuck and Ference which is possibly the slowest D pairing left in the finals. The Kings also had a much better transition game compared the Bruins whose only hint of a transition game is coming from a rookie. The Bruins have to respect the Hawks defensemans passing skills, and play back to respect the home run pass, every Hawk defenseman can do it. Right there, is a mis match. They can clog up the neutral zone, the Hawks have the speed to retrieve the puck. That's just from watching the Bruins, btw. Not rocket science.
Raask isn't as decorated as Quick, but with a .985 save % against the Penguins, he is playing like Quick on steroids.
And? It was the Pens, what does that matter to the Hawks? Focusing on what the Bruins did against the Pens is humorous. Try putting your effort into comprehending how, specifically, does Rask perform against a fast team with a lot more skill then two over hyped morons who like to dive and cry to the refs.

Hint- The numbers arent that good.
The Bruins have a MUCH better offense then we saw last round in the Kings. Granted, Richards was out, Stoll was coming back from a concussion, and Kopitar was injured, so if you want to compare them "on paper" its more even, but the way they are playing, Boston is much deadlier on offense and has a lot more depth.
Really? The Kings were better down the middle and had more speed down the wings. The Bruins have been basically a one line team so far this playoffs;

Goals by line: Bruins........
Line 1 = 19
Line 2 = 9
Line 3 = 2
Line 4 = 2


Goals by line: Blackhawks....
Line 1 = 15
Line 2 = 17
Line 3 = 4
Line 4 = 5

Oh my. Look at all that Bruin depth (shakes head)
Boston is just as good on the PK as us. The "amazing" Penguin PP went 0 for 15 against Boston. Boston is a TON better on the faceoffs, with Bergeron, #1 faceoff man the past two years and last years Selke winner, going against Toews, who has a hand injury he isn't disclosing. Their second and fourth line guys are above 54%.
FO's wont mean a thing. The Hawks are excellent at creating turnovers and have the speed to chase. Whats next, Corsi stats?
Please show me where Toronto showed that Boston doesn't have speed? I'm encouraged by Toronto's series vs Boston because Toronto is a balanced team, much like we are, but in no way did Toronto blow by Boston left and right. Stop speaking in meatball, radio-type generalizations and lay some facts down, all you are doing is talking out of your ass.
You can go to NHL.Com and see the games, or better yet, they pretty much play them on a routine on the NHL network. The Laffs speed made the Bruins look bad thru out their series, so save your meatball comment for Bears fans who think a Canadian league coach will suddenly turn them into a playoff team just on the principal that he is a new coach. You like to point out all these stats about how the all mighty Bruins man handled a team filled with washed up players who were acquired at the deadline, who slowed down their team in general, and who made it a point to focus on their two star players. **** the Bruins. Let them, and the blind fans here, focus on what they did against the Pens. Chances are the Hawks are focusing on the Bruins.

Take off your blinders- see what I did there?




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Read one page of this thread and it sounds like Boston will sweep the Hawks.... anyone who thinks the Hawks can win are fucking insane.... I guess I won't even tune in to the games... :lol: /sarcasm

They have not even played a game yet and people are talking up Boston so they can be the "I told you so" crowd.... how bout the Hawks are a really good team that has fought hard and played well and could certainly beat Boston.... geeze

That's what most everyone here thinks....well, maybe not Joe. He's the ultimate Chicago anti-fan. Follows all the teams but hates them all. But I digress....most of us here think the Hawks can win the Cup but also think they have a tough opponent who is also capable of winning it.
 

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I have Blackhawks in 6.

Boston can certainly win this series though. Rask seems to be vastly underrated around here and he is the type of goalie that is very capable of stealing games for his team. The Blackhawks have probably never seen a team as physical as the Bruins. Shouldn't be an issue with the Blackhawks speed unless the Blackhawks let the Bruins dictate the type of game they play - much like the Bruins did to the Pens. We all saw Zetterberg and the Wings throw Toews off his game, I'd be very surprised if the Bruins don't take an in your face approach to Toews, considering they do it with almost player as that is their game. The key will be how the superstars on this team react to the crap and how they are able to play through. Leddy and Oduya will have to be strong on the back end as Boston has a solid forecheck game and those have been known in the past to go into the corners a little soft which would create turnovers for Boston. Finally...the PP could be the X-factor for both teams. The Bruins and Blackhawks are both great on the PK and terrible on the PP. Blackhawks speed should create some opportunities, and they need to create some chances out of those opportunities. Would be great to pop a few but they, at the very least, need to create and build momentum off of the man advantage.
 

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WHAT THE **** ARE YOU DOING

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