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[jakobeast]

Personally I prefer posting articles on failed "green" jobs. Tesla, Solyindra.... Hard to keep track of them all. I did read recently that Solyindra's bankruptcy was more about dodging taxes than anything else. I'll see if I can find the article for that.



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Solyndra dodging tax burden through bankruptcy

Like a lot of businesses and people do.

 

[Pez68]

Personally I prefer posting articles on failed "green" jobs. Tesla, Solyindra.... Hard to keep track of them all. I did read recently that Solyindra's bankruptcy was more about dodging taxes than anything else. I'll see if I can find the article for that.



Edit:There you go



Solyndra dodging tax burden through bankruptcy

So you prefer to misdirect, rather than address the fact that Romney is no better than the current asshole?

 

[winos5]

More like I prefer to be critical of those currently in charge and making decisions than those asking for the job. And given Obama's record of failure and picking losers there is plenty of material to choose from. Am I biased? Sure. So is everyone else posting on this forum.

 

[IceHogsFan]

More like I prefer to be critical of those currently in charge and making decisions than those asking for the job. And given Obama's record of failure and picking losers there is plenty of material to choose from. Am I biased? Sure. So is everyone else posting on this forum.

Well said.



We can critique Obama on what he said and what he actually did/ did not do. It is an experienced evaluation.



Rather then those who say Romney is blah, blah, blah based upon their assumptions and what the media has portrayed him to be. Three and a half years into his reign as POTUS we can then evaluate what he has done as well. Whether you agree at that time is undecided right now but one thing is certain in my mind. It will be vastly different then the direction Obama is taking us.

 

[R K]

Well said.



We can critique Obama on what he said and what he actually did/ did not do. It is an experienced evaluation.



Rather then those who say Romney is blah, blah, blah based upon their assumptions and what the media has portrayed him to be. Three and a half years into his reign as POTUS we can then evaluate what he has done as well. Whether you agree at that time is undecided right now but one thing is certain in my mind. It will be vastly different then the direction Obama is taking us.

You two should get a room after the election.

 

[winos5]

You two should get a room after the election.

Wouldn't you get jealous?

 

[R K]

Wouldn't you get jealous?

Not a chance. I have my own padded room. Because I never agree with anyone on everything.

 

[Pez68]

Well said.



We can critique Obama on what he said and what he actually did/ did not do. It is an experienced evaluation.



Rather then those who say Romney is blah, blah, blah based upon their assumptions and what the media has portrayed him to be. Three and a half years into his reign as POTUS we can then evaluate what he has done as well. Whether you agree at that time is undecided right now but one thing is certain in my mind. It will be vastly different then the direction Obama is taking us.

And what has Romney DONE, that makes you think he'll do a better job than Obama? Never mind what he SAYS. What they say means nothing. They're politicians. If they aren't lying, they aren't talking. What has he DONE? I look at his actions, and I see a guy that has been a part of the problem his entire life. He's your typical big wig executive who only gives a **** about profit margins and stock prices. The guy has made his living off of sucking the working class dry, and then sending their jobs overseas. What the **** does he know about the problems facing the middle class in this country? He's guilty of the very things he claims to oppose....

 

[IceHogsFan]

And what has Romney DONE, that makes you think he'll do a better job than Obama? Never mind what he SAYS. What they say means nothing. They're politicians. If they aren't lying, they aren't talking. What has he DONE? I look at his actions, and I see a guy that has been a part of the problem his entire life. He's your typical big wig executive who only gives a **** about profit margins and stock prices. The guy has made his living off of sucking the working class dry, and then sending their jobs overseas. What the **** does he know about the problems facing the middle class in this country? He's guilty of the very things he claims to oppose....

So, I get my opinion by what Obama has done that I have personally witnessed.



Where does your disdain for Romney come from?

 

[Pez68]

You didn't answer the question. I answered your question in the very post you quoted..... He's your prototypical, greedy executive, that has used and stepped on the middle class to get ahead his entire life. What is to like about this guy? He's a phony and a bullshit artist.

 

[IceHogsFan]

You didn't answer the question. I answered your question in the very post you quoted..... He's your prototypical, greedy executive, that has used and stepped on the middle class to get ahead his entire life. What is to like about this guy? He's a phony and a bullshit artist.

A canned response from someone who has not researched the opponent I can only assume.



Why not just come out and state you do not like the party nor would you ever vote for any Republican? We can find the bad in everyone and with today's media it is easily done. Again, what is it in particular about Romney that you have such passionate hate for him? The fact that he is a wealthy business man?

 

[Pez68]

Romney is not "my opponent". I did not vote for Obama, I will not vote for him this time, and I will not vote at the federal level at all this election. I am completely done with participating in the scam that is the federal government in this country.



I am friends with lots of wealthy businessmen. I am friends with lots of small businessmen. I play hockey with them and they sponsor teams I play on. They are genuinely good people. Did you know that the Blackhawks are still paying all their regular employees, even though there's a lockout? How do you think I know that?



It has nothing to do with his wealth, and everything to do with how he got there, and the fact that he's completely full of shit. How can you trust someone that can't take a solid stance on anything? I have never seen a politician flip flop as much as he has during this campaign. His history with Bain is suspicious, at best. He says one thing, and does another. A guy that rants on and on about China and jobs overseas, who has substantial investments in Chinese companies, and vested interests in companies that have sent jobs overseas? A guy who honestly thinks he should pay less in taxes than a guy making $50,000 a year? He cannot relate to the average American at all. He has no clue.



What is it about Romney that makes you have such a RAGING hard-on for him? Why do you have FAITH that he will be the one that turns things around?



I would vote for Ryan over Obama if he was running for president, so you're completely off the mark.

 

[R K]

So, I get my opinion by what Obama has done that I have personally witnessed.



Where does your disdain for Romney come from?

You didn't really just ask that did you? Come on... Romney's faults are just as known as Obama's, even more so as the former Governor.



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[font=Calibri, 'Trebuchet MS', 'Lucida Sans', Arial, sans-serif]1. Ranked 47th in job growth: Despite Romney’s professed expertise in creating jobs, Massachusetts ranked 47th in job growth during his time as governor. The state’s total job growth was just 0.9 percent, well behind other high-wage, high-skill economies in New York (2.7), California (4.7), and North Carolina (7.6). The national average, meanwhile, was better than 5 percent.[/font]

[font=Calibri, 'Trebuchet MS', 'Lucida Sans', Arial, sans-serif]2. Suffered the second-largest labor force decline in the nation: Only Louisiana, which was ravaged by Hurricane Katrina in 2005, saw a bigger decline in its labor force than Massachusetts during Romney’s tenure as governor. The US Census Bureau estimated that between July 2002 and July 2006, 222,000 more residents left Massachusetts for other states than came to it. That decline largely explains the state’s decreasing unemployment rate (from 5.6 to 4.7 percent) while Romney was in office, according to Northeastern University economics professor Andrew Sum. At the same time, the nation as a whole added 8 millionpeople to the labor force.[/font]

[font=Calibri, 'Trebuchet MS', 'Lucida Sans', Arial, sans-serif]3. Lost 14 percent of its manufacturing jobs: Massachusetts lost 14 percent of its manufacturing jobs during Romney’s time in office, according to Sum. The loss was double the rate that the nation as a whole lost manufacturing jobs. In 2004, Romney vetoed legislation that would have banned companies doing business with the state from outsourcing jobs to other countries.[/font]

[font=Calibri, 'Trebuchet MS', 'Lucida Sans', Arial, sans-serif]4. Experienced “below average” economic growth and was “often near the bottom”: “There was not one measure where the state did well under his term in office. We were below average and often near the bottom,” Sum told the Washington Post in February. As a result, the state was more comparable to Rust Belt states like Illinois, Michigan, and Ohio than it was to other high-tech economies it typically competes with.[/font]

5. Piled on more debt than any other state[font="Calibri, Trebuchet MS, Lucida Sans, Arial, sans-serif"]: Romney left Massachusetts residents with $10,504 in per capita bond debt, the[/font]highest of any state[font="Calibri, Trebuchet MS, Lucida Sans, Arial, sans-serif"] in the nation when he left office in 2007. The state ranked second in debt as a percentage of personal income. Romney regularly omits those statistics from his Massachusetts record, instead touting the fact that he balanced the state’s budget (he was constitutionally required to do so). He wouldn’t be much different as president: his proposed tax plan adds [/font]more than $10 trillion[font="Calibri, Trebuchet MS, Lucida Sans, Arial, sans-serif"] to the national debt.[/font]



[font=Calibri, 'Trebuchet MS', 'Lucida Sans', Arial, sans-serif]I sure hope he runs the entire Country better than he did for 2% of the Nation that's for sure.[/font]



[font=Calibri, 'Trebuchet MS', 'Lucida Sans', Arial, sans-serif]Really the wrong thread but you just can't be serious and at least keep a straight face.[/font]

 

[TSD]

Well said.



We can critique Obama on what he said and what he actually did/ did not do. It is an experienced evaluation.



Rather then those who say Romney is blah, blah, blah based upon their assumptions and what the media has portrayed him to be. Three and a half years into his reign as POTUS we can then evaluate what he has done as well. Whether you agree at that time is undecided right now but one thing is certain in my mind. It will be vastly different then the direction Obama is taking us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBEXSiFzOfU

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

Filled up for $3.45/gallon this morning.

 

[winos5]

3.38 in South Texas where I live. HEB grocery store gives a $0.12 discount for using the grocery store's gift card to buy it so paid 3.26. Was in Houston this weekend and saw it for 3.29.

 

[LordKOTL]

So far out here: Cheapest in my area is $3.96. That's only down about $0.04. If there is a drop in price we ain't seeing it yet.

 

[MassHavoc]

Yeah, still $4+ everywhere in the city.

 

[TSD]

Ive worked from home the last 5 weeks. I filled up once in that time, I don't remember what it cost.

 

[MassHavoc]

Ive worked from home the last 5 weeks. I filled up once in that time, I don't remember what it cost.

Great contribution... haha