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[thechosenone]

SGs better than Rip?

Kobe
Wade
Monta Ellis
Marcus Thornton
James Harden
Demar Derozan
Ray Allen
Eric Gordon
Kevin Martin
Nick Young
Jason Terry
OJ Mayo
Manu Ginobili
Gerald Henderson
Aaron Afflalo
Paul George
Joe Johnson
Marshon Brooks

I was asking for fundamental SGs better than Ray and Rip but if you want to talk about every SG in the game first of all I said he is not a top10.Secondly seriously would you pick Nick Young and OJ Mayo over Hamilton?SERIOUSLY???Or you just wrote the names of every SG you have in your mind?

 

[Axl Rose]

i would rather have oj mayo over rip forsure

 

[thechosenone]

You would rather have everyone over every single player in the Bulls except Rose.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

I was asking for fundamental SGs better than Ray and Rip but if you want to talk about every SG in the game first of all I said he is not a top10.

the whole fundamental thing is completely irrelevant
rip is not a top 10 SG in any way...nor is he even in the top half

Secondly seriously would you pick Nick Young and OJ Mayo over Hamilton?SERIOUSLY???Or you just wrote the names of every SG you have in your mind?

you wouldnt trade rip for either of those two?

 

[houheffna]

I was asking for fundamental SGs better than Ray and Rip but if you want to talk about every SG in the game first of all I said he is not a top10.Secondly seriously would you pick Nick Young and OJ Mayo over Hamilton?SERIOUSLY???Or you just wrote the names of every SG you have in your mind?

Who gives a damn about fundamentals? There are more than 10 players at the position better than him...period. Hamilton is not top 10 at the position anymore. I would rather have Nick Young and Mayo over Hamilton, because both of those guys can create a shot for themselves and others.

Hamilton and Allen running through screens and being good shooters doesn't make them fundamentally sound either, there is much more to fundamentals than that.

 

[thechosenone]

the whole fundamental thing is completely irrelevant
rip is not a top 10 SG in any way...nor is he even in the top half





you wouldnt trade rip for either of those two?

Of course this is not irrelevant.When DRose is your franchise player you want a SG that knows his role in the game and knows to play the position as right as it can be played.

Of course I wouldn't trade him for Mayo or Young.I wouldn't trade Korver for one of them too.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

Of course this is not irrelevant.When DRose is your franchise player you want a SG that knows his role in the game and knows to play the position as right as it can be played.

and almost all the SGs i've listed cant do that?

you're making up some serious BS here

not to mention coming off screens, as hou said, doesnt constitute or embody sound fundamentals, necessarily

Of course I wouldn't trade him for Mayo or Young.I wouldn't trade Korver for one of them too.

 

[thechosenone]

Who gives a damn about fundamentals? There are more than 10 players at the position better than him...period. Hamilton is not top 10 at the position anymore. I would rather have Nick Young and Mayo over Hamilton, because both of those guys can create a shot for themselves and others.

Hamilton and Allen running through screens and being good shooters doesn't make them fundamentally sound either, there is much more to fundamentals than that.

1.Anyone who loves watching basketball played as it's meant to be played...
2.You mean that Hamilton can't create a shot for himself and others?
3.You make me believe that if you were a GM in a team you would have 5 players playing iso for 48 minutes.

 

[houheffna]

1.Anyone who loves watching basketball played as it's meant to be played...
2.You mean that Hamilton can't create a shot for himself and others?
3.You make me believe that if you were a GM in a team you would have 5 players playing iso for 48 minutes.

and you make me believe that you only watch games when Stacy King is talking. And no, I don't trust Hamilton to create his own shot in iso situations which IS WHAT THE BULLS NEED!

But, lets look at other top shooting guards...

Wade, Kobe, Martin, Ellis, Manu, Joe Johnson, Tyreke, Eric Gordon, Harden, Terry, Crawford, Allen, Mo Williams, Nick Young, Mayo....

Top 10 my ass!

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

bold = easily better than Hamilton
the rest = in the conversation with Hamilton

Dwyane Wade - SG/PG
Eric Gordon - SG/PG
Monta Ellis - SG/PG
Jason Terry - SG/PG
Rodney Stuckey - SG/PG
Tyreke Evans - SG/PG
Jamal Crawford - SG/PG
George Hill - SG/PG
Marcus Thornton - SG/PG
O.J. Mayo - SG/PG
Ben Gordon - SG/PG
Gary Neal - SG/PG

Kobe Bryant - SG
Manu Ginobili - SG
Ray Allen - SG
Kevin Martin - SG
Tony Allen - SG
Wesley Matthews - SG
Arron Afflalo - SG
J.R. Smith - SG
Rudy Fernandez - SG
Jodie Meeks - SG
Nick Young - SG
MarShon Brooks - SG
J.J. Redick - SG
Courtney Lee - SG
Gerald Henderson - SG

Joe Johnson - SG/SF
James Harden - SG/SF
Paul George - SG/SF
Evan Turner - SG/SF
Stephen Jackson - SG/SF
Landry Fields - SG/SF
Gordon Hayward - SG/SF
Brandon Rush - SG/SF
DeMar DeRozan - SG/SF
Ronnie Brewer - SG/SF
Thabo Sefolosha - SG/SF
DeShawn Stevenson - SG/SF
Willie Green - SG/SF

 

[thechosenone]

and almost all the SGs i've listed cant do that?

you're making up some serious BS here

not to mention coming off screens, as hou said, doesnt constitute or embody sound fundamentals, necessarily

The right way for a SG to play is the way Ray and Rip are playing.If you are not a franchise player SG then this is the way you should play.And that's why Hamilton was the first choice of the best team in the league and not Mayo or Young.They could go for Mayo or Young easily if they wanted.Of course Hamilton's injuries is an other discussion.But in terms of basketball Hamilton is way better player than both of them.You can't compare them.

 

[Axl Rose]

Of course I wouldn't trade him for Mayo or Young.I wouldn't trade Korver for one of them too.

 

[houheffna]

The right way for a SG to play is the way Ray and Rip are playing.If you are not a franchise player SG then this is the way you should play.And that's why Hamilton was the first choice of the best team in the league and not Mayo or Young.They could go for Mayo or Young easily if they wanted.Of course Hamilton's injuries is an other discussion.But in terms of basketball Hamilton is way better player than both of them.You can't compare them.

WTF are you talking about? They couldn't get Mayo because Memphis' owner hates Reinsdorf. They couldn't get Young because Washington wasn't moving him at the time. Believe me, if they could get Young right now...they would.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

The right way for a SG to play is the way Ray and Rip are playing.If you are not a franchise player SG then this is the way you should play.And that's why Hamilton was the first choice of the best team in the league and not Mayo or Young.They could go for Mayo or Young easily if they wanted.Of course Hamilton's injuries is an other discussion.But in terms of basketball Hamilton is way better player than both of them.You can't compare them.

Hamilton is a pure shooting guard but that doesn't mean guys like Paul George or Jason Terry don't play the "right way." Hamilton is not close to being a top 10 SG in this league. He's a very good player when healthy but he's not that top caliber SG anymore. And he never was close to being a superstar player even in his younger years.

 

[thechosenone]

and you make me believe that you only watch games when Stacy King is talking. And no, I don't trust Hamilton to create his own shot in iso situations which IS WHAT THE BULLS NEED!

Nah I don't watch basketball when Stacy King is talking.And nah the Bulls don't need someone for iso situations.They have a guy for that plays.They need a role player there who can play the position as proper as it can be played.If we have Young or Mayo instead of Hamilton or Korver we probably would lose games by their missing shoots.You can't have many guys in your team with a freedom to take 30+ shoots/game.You have ONE.That's enough.

 

[RamiTheBullsFan]

Nah I don't watch basketball when Stacy King is talking.And nah the Bulls don't need someone for iso situations.They have a guy for that plays.They need a role player there who can play the position as proper as it can be played.If we have Young or Mayo instead of Hamilton or Korver we probably would lose games by their missing shoots.You can't have many guys in your team with a freedom to take 30+ shoots/game.You have ONE.That's enough.

You are overrating the hell out of Kyle Korver. Ronnie Brewer has been a far better SG for us than Korver. Korver is a pure shooter who can't defend or create off the dribble. He is lucky he is as tall as he is for someone as one-dimensional as he is.

Nick Young and O.J. Mayo are SO much better than Korver.

 

[houheffna]

Nah I don't watch basketball when Stacy King is talking.And nah the Bulls don't need someone for iso situations.They have a guy for that plays.They need a role player there who can play the position as proper as it can be played.If we have Young or Mayo instead of Hamilton or Korver we probably would lose games by their missing shoots.You can't have many guys in your team with a freedom to take 30+ shoots/game.You have ONE.That's enough.

If you watched the ECF last year...you wouldn't be saying that stuff because its wrong. You are way off.

 

[thechosenone]

Hamilton is a pure shooting guard but that doesn't mean guys like Paul George or Jason Terry don't play the "right way." Hamilton is not close to being a top 10 SG in this league. He's a very good player when healthy but he's not that top caliber SG anymore. And he never was close to being a superstar player even in his younger years.

I agree with that.With every word you use.I didn't say he is a top 10 SG in the league.I didn't say that Terry or George don't play the right way.I said that Hamilton is a top "role player SG","pure SG".I can't express it the right way probably.And I said that the fundamentally right way for someone to play the SG position is just the way Ray Allen or Rip Hamilton played.

Who gives a **** for fundamentals when you are Kobe or Wade?Of course if they had them they would be Jordan but who cares.As long as they can score many points they can play the way they like to play.BUT if you are a role player in your team then fundamentals is the Alpha and Omega in basketball.

 

[houheffna]

I agree with that.With every word you use.I didn't say he is a top 10 SG in the league.I didn't say that Terry or George don't play the right way.I said that Hamilton is a top "role player SG","pure SG".I can't express it the right way probably.And I said that the fundamentally right way for someone to play the SG position is just the way Ray Allen or Rip Hamilton played.

Who gives a **** for fundamentals when you are Kobe or Wade?Of course if they had them they would be Jordan but who cares.As long as they can score many points they can play the way they like to play.BUT if you are a role player in your team then fundamentals is the Alpha and Omega in basketball.

I see what you were trying to say...I disagree, but I understand better now.

 

[thechosenone]

You are overrating the hell out of Kyle Korver. Ronnie Brewer has been a far better SG for us than Korver. Korver is a pure shooter who can't defend or create off the dribble. He is lucky he is as tall as he is for someone as one-dimensional as he is.

Nick Young and O.J. Mayo are SO much better than Korver.

OJ Mayo isn't a starter in Memphis and they are looking for trading him as soon as possible.Nick Young is a player who shoots a lot and misses a lot.Of course I would like him in my team if I couldn't have someone more solid than him but I wouldn't trade him for Korver.When you move the ball right and create open shots like the Bulls then Korver is a guy you should have in your team.