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More points:

A) DRtg doesn't measure how much the guy Boozer is guarding PER100. It is a team statistic.

B) Noah or Asik always guards the best scoring big man on the opposing offense. Boozer always guards the lesser of the two.

C) Noah or Asik and Deng and Brewer give Boozer plenty of help on defensive rotations. It is called TEAM defense. The NBA is NOT played in a vacuum.
 

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I hope the Bulls get this done and land Howard in Chicago and we will lol together when in every sports site in the world we will se pics of big3 teams with Chicago Rose-Howard-Boozer being one of them.
 

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More points:

A) DRtg doesn't measure how much the guy Boozer is guarding PER100. It is a team statistic.

B) Noah or Asik always guards the best scoring big man on the opposing offense. Boozer always guards the lesser of the two.

C) Noah or Asik and Deng and Brewer give Boozer plenty of help on defensive rotations. It is called TEAM defense. The NBA is NOT played in a vacuum.
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pretty hard to play basketball there :troll:
 

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But the thing is that Boozer sucks pretty much at everything except defense. And yes you just confirmed what I am saying. You just wrote that Boozer is worse than all of these players/contracts. The only thing left is one of them becoming a bull. I am sure that then they won't be worse than Boozer

This is a terrible statement. I think Boozer would laugh at you if he were reading these posts.

Boozer is a capable offensive player (who has been a massive disappointment because of all the money he was given).

Boozer is a VERY good rebounder.

Boozer is a bad defender. He doesn't defend the pick-and-roll game. He doesn't rotate at all. He has short arms with no jumping ability. He never takes charges nor would ever dream of it.

We are being more fair to Boozer than you are.
 

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More points:

A) DRtg doesn't measure how much the guy Boozer is guarding PER100. It is a team statistic.

B) Noah or Asik always guards the best scoring big man on the opposing offense. Boozer always guards the lesser of the two.

C) Noah or Asik and Deng and Brewer give Boozer plenty of help on defensive rotations. It is called TEAM defense. The NBA is NOT played in a vacuum.

Once again repeating the same things. So Boozer's defense worse than Boozer's offense right?
 

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boozer might be attractive to a team that needs some rebounding and post+/a pick and pop player

charlotte? toronto?

:dunno:
 

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This is a terrible statement. I think Boozer would laugh at you if he were reading these posts.

Boozer is a capable offensive player (who has been a massive disappointment because of all the money he was given).

Boozer is a VERY good rebounder.

Boozer is a bad defender. He doesn't defend the pick-and-roll game. He doesn't rotate at all. He has short arms with no jumping ability. He never takes charges nor would ever dream of it.

We are being more fair to Boozer than you are.

How the hell someone can be a very good rebounder without "defending" his position to block out the opponent? I don't get it but I won't continue it.


Capable in what? Getting in the rim aggressively? NO
Not losing the ball? NO
Not missing open shots? NO
Not missing open layups?NO
Positioning? NO
Making free throws? NO
The only good thing he has offensively is a good mid range shot and a decent screen. Nothing else.
 
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6team deal involving Bulls, Minny, Cavs, Clippers, Nets, and Magic
Dwight 2 Nets.
Love 2 Chicago.
 

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boozer might be attractive to a team that needs some rebounding and post+/a pick and pop player

charlotte? toronto?

:dunno:

Nice. So you can use them as a 3rd team in a blockbuster trade. Sounds good.
 

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How the hell someone can be a very good rebounder without "defending" his position to block out the opponent? I don't get it but I won't continue it.

The only reason Boozer is capable of being in a line-up in which the team is good defensively is that he is good at putting a strong body on low-post scorers/rebounders. That doesn't mean Boozer will block a decent number of shots, rotate and play help defense, take charges, or contest any outside shot.
 

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Capable in what? Getting in the rim aggressively? NO
he can clean up and score in the post well

do you REALLY expect boozer,who's upwards of 30 with injury trouble,lack of speed and jumping ability, to be get to the rim aggressively?
Not losing the ball? NO
no argument here
Not missing open shots? NO
every player misses open shots..durant misses open shots


Making free throws? NO
in the long run...the difference between him being average in free throws(for a big) and what he is now is very slim

he could stand to improve it...but it's not as important as other things

The only good thing he has offensively is a good mid range shot and a decent screen. Nothing else.
yet he averages 15 PPG on 53% shooting

this is silly..you're trying to discredit boozer's offense and pimp up his defense

WTF is going on?
 

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Boozer also has good hands and gets a solid number of steals and balls swatted away. He is hard to back down.

If he didn't have those two features about his defense, he would be as big of a liability on D as Jose Calderon or Steve Nash.
 

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First he says:



And then he says:



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Is this real life?

Of course it is. How many times he missed a really open shot that Asik would have made it this year? And yes Boozer has some games he is making every fucking shot and some games he can't make a shot to save his life. And it's more harmful for the team than his defense especially with Rose out..
 

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his D isn't glaringly harmful because the bulls have guys to cover it up
 

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It is no coincidence that the Bulls have the best defense in the NBA. They have over 5 guys (and have defenders at every position) who are very good-great. It has shit-all to do with Boozer. He is there for offensive and rebounding purposes. What he brings on defense is easily replaceable and also easy to upgrade.

Their offense is top 6 as well and that is mainly because Rose, Deng, and Boozer are on the team. Noah is raw and is there for offensive rebounds and when you ignore him. Taj is too inconsistent with his jump-shot and is sloppy offensively in general. Asik is a complete liability.
 

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Of course it is. How many times he missed a really open shot that Asik would have made it this year? And yes Boozer has some games he is making every fucking shot and some games he can't make a shot to save his life. And it's more harmful for the team than his defense especially with Rose out..

Boozer is a very good wide open jump-shooter for the most part. When Rose is out, that is when he gets cold because he is much more easily contested. And Rose was out half of the year.

Boozer is also an option as a post-up scorer and pick-and-roll scorer. He is valuable for their offense because of that. Does he utilize that part of his game enough? Hell no. And that is why he is not worth the money considering that his defense is FULL of holes.
 

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he can clean up and score in the post well

do you REALLY expect boozer,who's upwards of 30 with injury trouble,lack of speed and jumping ability, to be get to the rim aggressively?

no argument here

every player misses open shots..durant misses open shots

in the long run...the difference between him being average in free throws(for a big) and what he is now is very slim

he could stand to improve it...but it's not as important as other things


yet he averages 15 PPG on 53% shooting

this is silly..you're trying to discredit boozer's offense and pimp up his defense

WTF is going on?

Yes I DEMAND the PF to get to the rim aggressively and not hesitating even when nobody is guarding him. I also demand from a PF whose best thing offensively is his mid range shot to make his free throws. And I also demand from a basketball player to hit the open shots without hesitation that leads to a badly missed shot or a block or a steal. Durant doesn't pump fake 10 times before shooting the ball even when nobody is guarding him. :D

Basically this stupid 10 times pump fake when nobody is guarding him may be Boozer's signature move! lol
 

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It is no coincidence that the Bulls have the best defense in the NBA. They have over 5 guys (and have defenders at every position) who are very good-great. It has shit-all to do with Boozer. He is there for offensive and rebounding purposes. What he brings on defense is easily replaceable and also easy to upgrade.

Their offense is top 6 as well and that is mainly because Rose, Deng, and Boozer are on the team. Noah is raw and is there for offensive rebounds and when you ignore him. Taj is too inconsistent with his jump-shot and is sloppy offensively in general. Asik is a complete liability.

the rest of this post is good..but i disagree with this
 

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