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yep, he is the size of A Real Bear. played mostly inside at Texas ?
yes he was a DT at Texas
yep, he is the size of A Real Bear. played mostly inside at Texas ?
Houston got up to 300lbs during the pre-draft process and entered the NFL, hence the erroneous weight listing, but he's never played professionally or in college at that weight. Can we put this to bed already?
"Though listed at 6-foot-3 and 300 pounds, the 25-year-old reported to summer training camp 20 pounds lighter than he had been in 2011, and started this past season at 285 pounds.
Head coach Dennis Allen – who’d asked Houston to lose 10 pounds before summer camp – was impressed by Houston’s weight loss, which gave him extra quickness and mobility. Before the season began, Allen told CBSSports.com, “I would expect good things out of him.”
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Raiders-Have-a-Building-Block-in-Houston-188847521.html
"Houston has come a long way as a pass-rusher. He dropped weight to hopefully be quicker off the edge in 2012, which seems to have helped him. He’s never going to be an elite speed rusher, but he can still be quite effective."
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...w-lamarr-houston-is-making-a-name-for-himself
"Lamarr Houston wouldn't have to lose that much weight. He's listed at 300 pounds -- that's what he entered the NFL at -- but does not look close to that weight. He plays around 280-285 pounds"
http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/tag/_/name/lamarr-houston
"At 6-foot-3 and believed to have been playing around 280 pounds after previously being around 300 pounds, Houston moves like a much smaller man, putting him in the category of a hybrid defender. He’s nimble enough to drop into coverage when asked, quick enough to bend the edge from a two-point stance as a pass rusher and strong enough to set the edge against the run."
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2014/03/12/free-agent-spotlight-de-lamarr-houston-film-breakdown/
"Houston was one of the Longhorns to really show up in the National Championship Game against Alabama in January 2010. He put on good weight after the season, and measured in at 305 lbs at the 2010 NFL Scouting Combine. He ran 4.84 at that weight, which was faster than he timed as a high school running back (standard caveats about reported high school times apply here). That time caught the eye of Al Davis, patriarch owner of the Raiders, who traded back to draft Houston in the second round in the 2010 draft."
http://www.chatsports.com/texas-longhorns/a/Longhorn-Alumni-Lamarr-Houston-2-9409226
Houston will most likely be rotated all over the line and play inside on passing downs but I dont think hes going to be starting at DT.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/04/26/arkush-phil-emery-just-blew-that-pick/
“I don’t look to get too far out on a limb if I can avoid it, but Phil Emery just blew that pick. I’m sorry. I’m not going to back away from it. I don’t like Kyle Long in the second round."
That right there is why I dont listen to a word Hug Arbush says anymore. I used to agree with most of the hate he spewed during the Angelo days, but have hated most all of his analysis since Phil took over.
:andruw:
Holy shit this is laughably wrong.
Tell me where. Here's a sample, three of his games. Watch him exclusively, then tell me how it's wrong. Do some actual analysis instead of concluding with no basis for your reasoning. At least I provided substance:
[video=youtube;kLRv6MnI1b8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLRv6MnI1b8[/video]
I like how the title video is of the USC game where Tuitt basically destroyed the Trojans entire offense the entire game and you're using the video to prove Tuitt had issues.
I've watched Tuitt more than anyone on this board. One on one 99% of teams couldn't handle him, especially once he was healthy. His 2012 tape is absurd. He ate Lewan alive. As the 2013 season wore on he rounded back into shape after offseason hernia surgery.
Tuitt is an athletic freak.
Tuitt isn't a perfect prospect but virtually no team could handle him one on one in passing situations and you also have to understand the scheme he was playing in at ND as well. It was hyper conservative at times.
You're clueless. Stop.
3rd-5th round.
:andruw:
Probably not....but it really depends on the draft and what the Bears think about Young......If they really want Young as a starting DE then Houston will have to be at the 3 tech.
I was hoping you'd be foolish enough to say he dominated one of these games. For those of you who don't want to read the whole thing here's a summary: the majority of his tackles are assists on running plays right at him where another lineman makes the play.
Care to guess how many holding calls he generated as well?He gets two sacks in the game.
This might be the worst play by play break down/synopsis I have ever seen.Let's break it down play by play:
[video=youtube;kLRv6MnI1b8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLRv6MnI1b8[/video]
Just an awful recap
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So you're saying Tuitt did his job at the point of attack as an anchor end in a 3-4?
Do you understand the type of defense Notre Dame played last year? Most notably Tuitt who played more anchor end after the constant injuries to Day as well as the loss of Kapron Lewis-Moore? Tuitt wasn't asked to pin his ears back as much in 2013 as he was in 2012. You have no idea the context about what you're talking about.
Care to guess how many holding calls he generated as well?
This might be the worst play by play break down/synopsis I have ever seen.
You're basically punishing Tuitt for playing technique sound and having defenses refuse to run at him.
Tuitt's issues are that he's a one move rusher right now. He's kind of a bull-rush possible spin off of it type guy. He needs to develop a swim counter of some kind and he has problems with leverage.
Watching the USC tape all you see if a guy playing technique sound football, creating holding penalties and pressures, and a team basically refusing to run at him because they can run at the other end(mainly Shembo the Rapist) more easily..and when they do run at him they get virtually nothing out of it.
It's pretty funny that most every draft writer says his USC game was a dominate performance by him yet you go in, not understanding a 3-4 defense and term it as nothing more than a two sack game.
TL;DR: You have no idea what you're watching or talking about.
I'm about 10 minutes through this film and have yet to see Tuitt make more than one or two mistakes or bad plays.(semi-whiffs on tackles on run plays).
There's no way anyone can watch the USC game, especially the second half and come away saying that it wasn't dominant. You're an idiot.
Wait, let me get this straight, a guy who is good against the run has solid technique, but provides no basis for anyone to call him special should be drafted in the first or second round. Let me remind you what the issue here is: you said my original assessment of him was wrong. Yet, you site his run support as the reason it's wrong. Please note that my original post makes no statement about run support. He doesn't consistently win his one on one battles at the college level, how do you expect him to do it against bigger stronger tackles and guards in the NFL? He certainly doesn't provide consistent pressure by any means, even in his dominant game, how do you expect him to do so against players in the NFL? Please show me exactly how or why my original assessment was wrong. You have not even attempted to do so. You rely on tangential points in which no one is talking about. Stay on topic.
Bearin' Down said:I don't get it either. Tuitt would get stonewalled consistently against college o-lineman. Every once in a while he'd bust through the line, or get a coverage sack. He's definitely not a DE. He's a project at DT, as that's not his natural position. I don't like his burst, I don't think he's particularly strong, and I don't think he showed an ability to consistently win one on one matchups, let alone double teams. Not that my opinion matters, but I graded him out as a 3-5th round guy. He has good athleticism for someone his size, but just hasn't shown why he should be a day 1, or even day 2, pick.
FirstTimer said:Holy shit this is laughably wrong.
FirstTimer said:You're basically punishing Tuitt for playing technique sound and having defenses refuse to run at him
Tuitt's issues are that he's a one move rusher right now. He's kind of a bull-rush possible spin off of it type guy. He needs to develop a swim counter of some kind and he has problems with leverage.
Watching the USC tape all you see if a guy playing technique sound football, creating holding penalties and pressures, and a team basically refusing to run at him because they can run at the other end(mainly Shembo the Rapist) more easily..and when they do run at him they get virtually nothing out of it.
I'm convinced you're brain dead. Tuitt was "winning" one on one blocking matchups by a. holding the point of attack like he was supposed b. playing technique sound(goes along with being able to achieve a.) and c. getting off the blocks to make tackles on run plays. His defense against the run can go directly against one of your main issues with him. Like I said, you have no clue what you're actually watching and now idea how to break down film.
Not only that as I covered repeatedly you have no idea the context of the system he was playing. It's pretty odd for a guy that "can't get consistent" pressure to lead his team in sacks for two consecutive seasons and in the game you showed above (USC) to constantly be upfield in the passing game.
Your "points" about Tuitt were Special person, your analysis was even worse. I've explained why. I'm on point. You're done.
Let me just makes this clear for you because you have a hard time staying on topic. The original statement by me was:
Your reply
After prodding, your support that you are basing your opinion that I'm laughably wrong:
So, let's break this down. Here are my claims:
1. Tuitt would get stonewalled consistently against college o-lineman
Piece of advice: stop name calling.
Lamar Houston is listed at 6'3" and 300 lbs........I think you looked at Whitney Houston's measurements.