I am glad we lost and here is why

[remydat]

stop your lies, I said you made the Allen fields comparison and also think you said something stupid with a Mitch comparison as well

You doubled down in your typical vortex over and over again trying to justify your Stupid comparison so you STILL made the comparison in 2021, even though I never specified 2021 but this is how you deal with being wrong so here is one example of MANY attempts to justify your comparison in 2

The funny thing is you did it again in 2023 a few posts up

The problem with this line of attempting to save face, is this whole interaction started when you did this..



I linked to your stupid Mitch/Prescott post because of this challenge you posted above, calling you out for your horrible evaluation of not only Mitch but also your horrible evaluation of Prescott. So there is no way out of this to save face. You pretending that "he wasn't a franchise QB" when you said it is laughable in itself but trying to say he didnt blow up until the next year doesnt work either because that goes directly to the debate we where having about QB evaluations and your complete lack of evaluating a franchise QB who turned out ridiculously good.

And for more examples of your stupidity back then to now..

Prescott in 2018 (they year you said his performance wasnt "franchise QB" worthy
he was 67% 3800 yards 97 rated 22TD (6 rushing TD) and also got sacked 56 times.. funny that you give all the excuses for sacks for fields but didnt seem to stop that "non franchise QB" with prescott

You want to compare that to fields year 3? lol your evaluation of QBs is beyond terrible

Dude you already admitted you thought it was in the 2021 Pace thread. So again you are wrong.

Nothing in this new quote says anything about Mitch.

No longer a game manager, Cowboys’ Dak Prescott is on a tear

The quarterback has been fueling the league's top offense, which heads to New England for a showdown Sunday.

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The Truth About Dak Prescott

Dak has been great, mediocre and somewhere in between.

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There are literally articles from 2019 that show at the time I made the post people viewed him as a game manager so again you are being stupid. The whole reason the Cowboys franchised him instead of extending him is because they were not convinced he was a franchise QB.

Like what do you think you are proving beyond the fact you are so unhinged you are digging up factually accurate posts and cunting about them.

 

[dbldrew]

Dude you already admitted you thought it was in the 2021 Pace thread. So again you are wrong.

Nothing in this new quote says anything about Mitch.

No longer a game manager, Cowboys’ Dak Prescott is on a tear

The quarterback has been fueling the league's top offense, which heads to New England for a showdown Sunday.

www.pressherald.com

Dak Prescott Is a Game Manager | FOX Sports Radio

FOX Sports Radio. The Premiere Sports Lineup in the Nation!

www.google.com

The Truth About Dak Prescott

Dak has been great, mediocre and somewhere in between.

fftoday.com

There are literally articles from 2019 that show at the time I made the post people viewed him as a game manager so again you are being stupid. The whole reason the Cowboys franchised him instead of extending him is because they were not convinced he was a franchise QB.

Like what do you think you are proving beyond the fact you are so unhinged you are digging up factually accurate posts and cunting about them.

The fact you doubled down on it in the 2021 thread makes you saying something stupid about a Mitch comparison true.. and you also did it again in 2023..

The whole argument started because of your challenge to me about my QB evaluation skills, I pointed out how bad your evaluation skills are.

Facts matter,

1) you had a huge evaluation failure when you evaluated Mitch and Prescott as comparable in 2019, doubled down on it again in 2021 and again in 2023

2) you had a bigger evaluation failure when you evaluated Prescott after his 97rated season as "not a franchise QB" in 2019, doubled down in 2021 and again in 2023

All I said when you attempted to deflect the debate onto the Fields Jones comparison is you also made some stupid comparisons as well, and boy did you ever.

I forgot about the stupid Fields Manning and Fields Brees comparison as well,

Bottom line here Remy you are in no position to be going after anyone in regards to QB evaluation with those gems under your belt. You live in a glass house Remy

 

[dbldrew]

The whole reason the Cowboys franchised him instead of extending him is because they were not convinced he was a franchise QB.

Omg I missed this the first time lol my God you are a clown..

With franchise tag signed, what's next for Cowboys' Dak Prescott?

Start the clock and circle July 15 because that becomes the most important deadline to date for the Cowboys and their franchise quarterback.

www.espn.com

"The Cowboys have an offer on the table that sources have said would make Prescott the second-highest paid quarterback in the NFL behind Russell Wilson's $35 million annual salary from the Seattle Seahawks, including guaranteed cash that is on par with the $110 million quarterback Jared Goff received from the Los Angeles Rams."

The fact that you are saying after a 5000 yard season the cowboys still didn't think he was a franchise QB?

Just stop with your terrible takes, I'm actually embarrassed for you

 

[remydat]

The fact you doubled down on it in the 2021 thread makes you saying something stupid about a Mitch comparison true.. and you also did it again in 2023..

The whole argument started because of your challenge to me about my QB evaluation skills, I pointed out how bad your evaluation skills are.

Facts matter,

1) you had a huge evaluation failure when you evaluated Mitch and Prescott as comparable in 2019, doubled down on it again in 2021 and again in 2023

2) you had a bigger evaluation failure when you evaluated Prescott after his 97rated season as "not a franchise QB" in 2019, doubled down in 2021 and again in 2023

All I said when you attempted to deflect the debate onto the Fields Jones comparison is you also made some stupid comparisons as well, and boy did you ever.

I forgot about the stupid Fields Manning and Fields Brees comparison as well,

Bottom line here Remy you are in no position to be going after anyone in regards to QB evaluation with those gems under your belt. You live in a glass house Remy

1. Incorrect. I said Mitch back in 2019 is more of a game manager like Prescott. That is not saying he is as good as Prescott dumbass.

2. I have provided evidence that Prescott at the time I called him a game manager was in fact considered a game manager. No different than the fact Brady and Russ were considered game managers early in their careers.

3. Your claim was that great QBs are great right away. I disproved that claim by noting Allen, Manning and Brees all had issues early on in their careers. In no way is that saying Fields or Mitch are as good as those guys.

Can you show me an actual quote where I actually said that Fields or Mitch is just as good as any one of these guys? All you have provided is evidence I compared their play style or their early career struggles.

 

[remydat]

Omg I missed this the first time lol my God you are a clown..

With franchise tag signed, what's next for Cowboys' Dak Prescott?

Start the clock and circle July 15 because that becomes the most important deadline to date for the Cowboys and their franchise quarterback.

www.espn.com

"The Cowboys have an offer on the table that sources have said would make Prescott the second-highest paid quarterback in the NFL behind Russell Wilson's $35 million annual salary from the Seattle Seahawks, including guaranteed cash that is on par with the $110 million quarterback Jared Goff received from the Los Angeles Rams."

The fact that you are saying after a 5000 yard season the cowboys still didn't think he was a franchise QB?

Just stop with your terrible takes, I'm actually embarrassed for you

From the ESPN article you linked.

"For those who still believe the Cowboys aren't sold on Prescott despite their offers throughout the negotiating process, the fact Prescott signed the tender opens up the possibility of something else that will not happen -- the Cowboys trading him."

Thanks for linking to evidence that people were not convinced the Cowboys were sold on him. Boy are you stupid.

If the Cowboys had believed he was a franchise QB he gets extended before the last year of his contract. Instead he had to play out the 2019 season. He had a great year and the Cowboys had to franchise him because of the fact they had not signed him earlier. So them tagging him is a direct result of the fact they were not sold on him going into the 2019 season. Hence the articles I linked noting him as a game manager and hence the article you linked noting that some doubt the Cowboys are sold on him.

So not sure what this unhinged stupidity is all about. You are literally dredging up posts from 4 years ago to showcase that you are still wrong all these years later.

 

[dbldrew]

From the ESPN article you linked.

"For those who still believe the Cowboys aren't sold on Prescott despite their offers throughout the negotiating process, the fact Prescott signed the tender opens up the possibility of something else that will not happen -- the Cowboys trading him."

Thanks for linking to evidence that people were not convinced the Cowboys were sold on him. Boy are you stupid.

If the Cowboys had believed he was a franchise QB he gets extended before the last year of his contract. Instead he had to play out the 2019 season. He had a great year and the Cowboys had to franchise him because of the fact they had not signed him earlier. So them tagging him is a direct result of the fact they were not sold on him going into the 2019 season. Hence the articles I linked noting him as a game manager and hence the article you linked noting that some doubt the Cowboys are sold on him.

So not sure what this unhinged stupidity is all about. You are literally dredging up posts from 4 years ago to showcase that you are still wrong all these years later.

Only in your vortex of stupidity can you think that after a 5000yard season and the cowboys having an offer on the table to make him the 2nd highest payed QB, you would think they weren't convinced he was a franchise QB lol


This is as bad as you playing flag football and claiming you almost made varsity! Or was it you almost went pro? Lol

When you spin up your vortex all it does is make you look stupid

Never change Remy, you are amusing

Also might want to look at the bolded part of that quote.. lol what a clown

 

[dbldrew]

I'm still laughing at the fact you quoted the part of the article that is literally mocking idiots like you thinking the cowboys where not sold on him and used that to try and prove the cowboys where not sold on him..

Might just have to bookmark this other little gem..

You should seriously give up on the whole vortex attempt it never works out for you

 

[remydat]

Only in your vortex of stupidity can you think that after a 5000yard season and the cowboys having an offer on the table to make him the 2nd highest payed QB, you would think they weren't convinced he was a franchise QB lol


This is as bad as you playing flag football and claiming you almost made varsity! Or was it you almost went pro? Lol

When you spin up your vortex all it does is make you look stupid

Never change Remy, you are amusing

Also might want to look at the bolded part of that quote.. lol what a clown

You seem confused. The point was they werent convinced going into 2019 which is why after the 2019 season they had to franchise him. If they were convinced they would have extended him before 2019. My comment about his being a game manager was at the start of the 2019 season not after his 5k yard season.

He was considered a game manager going into 2019 season. That is the point you tried to challenge and you were incorrect. The end.

 

[dbldrew]

You seem confused. The point was they werent convinced going into 2019 which is why after the 2019 season they had to franchise him. If they were convinced they would have extended him before 2019. My comment about his being a game manager was at the start of the 2019 season not after his 5k yard season.

He was considered a game manager going into 2019 season. That is the point you tried to challenge and you were incorrect. The end.

Lol they offered him 30mil after his "not franchise QB" season in 2018, the offer was BEFORE the 2019 season started. Prescott thought he was worth 40

NFL Contracts: Cowboys’ Dak Prescott Demanding $40 Million Annually?

Dallas Cowboys Pro Bowl quarterback Dak Prescott is reportedly demanding $40 million annually on a new contract. Here, we dive into what this means for Prescott and the Boys.

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And you bringing up "game manager" is just you attempting to change the subject away from you saying something stupid.

Game manager and franchise QB are 2 completely different things, just like gun slinger and franchise QB are also 2 completely different things, you can have a terrible gun slinger QB and you can also have a terrible game manager QB, also you can have a franchise QB who is a gun slinger or a game manager.

The fact here Remy is you said that Prescott was not a franchise QB after his 2018 season. That is a very bad evaluation on your part.

You trying to justify such a stupid take has only made you look stupid, again you literally quoted part of the article mocking idiots like you thinking it made your point.

You need to turn off your vortex and walk away, every post you make, makes you look dumber

 

[remydat]

Lol they offered him 30mil after his "not franchise QB" season in 2018, the offer was BEFORE the 2019 season started. Prescott thought he was worth 40

NFL Contracts: Cowboys’ Dak Prescott Demanding $40 Million Annually?

Dallas Cowboys Pro Bowl quarterback Dak Prescott is reportedly demanding $40 million annually on a new contract. Here, we dive into what this means for Prescott and the Boys.

www-forbes-com.cdn.ampproject.org

And you bringing up "game manager" is just you attempting to change the subject away from you saying something stupid.

Game manager and franchise QB are 2 completely different things, just like gun slinger and franchise QB are also 2 completely different things, you can have a terrible gun slinger QB and you can also have a terrible game manager QB, also you can have a franchise QB who is a gun slinger or a game manager.

The fact here Remy is you said that Prescott was not a franchise QB after his 2018 season. That is a very bad evaluation on your part.

You trying to justify such a stupid take has only made you look stupid, again you literally quoted part of the article mocking idiots like you thinking it made your point.

You need to turn off your vortex and walk away, every post you make, makes you look dumber

Lol the Giants gave Jones 40m and he is not a franchise QB. As QBs are hard to find they get overpaid even if they are not frachise QBs.

The Cowboys offered less than the going rate at the time as Willson signed for 35m before Prescott. Hence why Prescott wanted 40m and Dallas eventually gave it to him once he had a franchise QB like season.

And again I already posted articles that confirmed he was considered more of a game manager. You are are making up your own definitions of what game manager and franchise QB means. How you chose to define it has no relevance to how I chose to define it. The Cowboys were not willing to pay the going rate for a franchise QB until Prescott put up franchise QB numbers in 2019 and beyond.

 

[dbldrew]

Lol the Giants gave Jones 40m and he is not a franchise QB. As QBs are hard to find they get overpaid even if they are not frachise QBs.

The Cowboys offered less than the going rate at the time as Willson signed for 35m before Prescott. Hence why Prescott wanted 40m and Dallas eventually gave it to him once he had a franchise QB like season.

And again I already posted articles that confirmed he was considered more of a game manager. You are are making up your own definitions of what game manager and franchise QB means. How you chose to define it has no relevance to how I chose to define it. The Cowboys were not willing to pay the going rate for a franchise QB until Prescott put up franchise QB numbers in 2019 and beyond.

Yes willson signed for 35mil.. making him the HIGHEST PAYED QB.

Only in your vortex of stupidity can you point to the Highest payed QB and say that's the "going rate"

Every thing you have said to try and justify your terrible take on Prescott has been 100% wrong and just has made you look stupid.

Turn off your vortex, it's just making you look the fool

 

[onebud34]

Yes willson signed for 35mil.. making him the HIGHEST PAYED QB.

Only in your vortex of stupidity can you point to the Highest payed QB and say that's the "going rate"

Every thing you have said to try and justify your terrible take on Prescott has been 100% wrong and just has made you look stupid.

Turn off your vortex, it's just making you look the fool

That's going to take on a whole new meaning next March when reigning NFL MVP Patrick Mahomes becomes eligible for an extension. He'll likely be the first $40 million per year quarterback. Houston Texans signal caller Deshaun Watson will also be eligible for an extension in March.

This doesn't even take into account Jared Goff's pending extension after he led the Los Angeles Rams to the Super Bowl last season.

The moral of the story here? Based on his body of work, Prescott shouldn't receive a pay day comparable to these three. But based on the market dynamic, they will be used as fodder for Prescott's camp should nothing come to fruition on this end here soon.

 

[remydat]

Yes willson signed for 35mil.. making him the HIGHEST PAYED QB.

Only in your vortex of stupidity can you point to the Highest payed QB and say that's the "going rate"

Every thing you have said to try and justify your terrible take on Prescott has been 100% wrong and just has made you look stupid.

Turn off your vortex, it's just making you look the fool

You may need to learn how FA works. The next guy up generally gets the same or more than the guy before if they are similar caliber players.

Juat like JJ wants around what the top CBs on the market is getting. So no Dallas was not offering franchise QB money. They were less because Prescot was not quite a franchise QB. Once he showed he was a franchise QB Dallas gave him 40m

 

[dbldrew]

You may need to learn how FA works. The next guy up generally gets the same or more than the guy before if they are similar caliber players.

Juat like JJ wants around what the top CBs on the market is getting. So no Dallas was not offering franchise QB money. They were less because Prescot was not quite a franchise QB. Once he showed he was a franchise QB Dallas gave him 40m

Man I keep telling you your vortex is just destroying you here and you let it do it again.

So the only way that consider Prescott a franchise QB is to make him the highest payed QB? the stupidity of this line of thinking. So when Brady signed a 30 mil contract 15 mil per year the year before.. HALF of what Prescott was offered you would also say that Brady would NOT be considered a franchise QB based on vortex logic.. and this is the problem with vortex logic.. there isnt any logic to it and all it does is make you look stupid

I keep thinking this is as low as you can go and you keep surprising me. I am actually shocked at how stupid you are willing to make yourself look all to attempt to vortex your way out of a simple bad take on a QB. You have done so much more damage to your reputation it is starting to actually be sad.

 

[onebud34]

Man I keep telling you your vortex is just destroying you here and you let it do it again.

So the only way that consider Prescott a franchise QB is to make him the highest payed QB? the stupidity of this line of thinking. So when Brady signed a 30 mil contract 15 mil per year the year before.. HALF of what Prescott was offered you would also say that Brady would NOT be considered a franchise QB based on vortex logic.. and this is the problem with vortex logic.. there isnt any logic to it and all it does is make you look stupid

I keep thinking this is as low as you can go and you keep surprising me. I am actually shocked at how stupid you are willing to make yourself look all to attempt to vortex your way out of a simple bad take on a QB. You have done so much more damage to your reputation it is starting to actually be sad.

That's going to take on a whole new meaning next March when reigning NFL MVP Patrick Mahomes becomes eligible for an extension. He'll likely be the first $40 million per year quarterback. Houston Texans signal caller Deshaun Watson will also be eligible for an extension in March.

This doesn't even take into account Jared Goff's pending extension after he led the Los Angeles Rams to the Super Bowl last season.

The moral of the story here? Based on his body of work, Prescott shouldn't receive a pay day comparable to these three. But based on the market dynamic, they will be used as fodder for Prescott's camp should nothing come to fruition on this end here soon.

 

[remydat]

Man I keep telling you your vortex is just destroying you here and you let it do it again.

So the only way that consider Prescott a franchise QB is to make him the highest payed QB? the stupidity of this line of thinking. So when Brady signed a 30 mil contract 15 mil per year the year before.. HALF of what Prescott was offered you would also say that Brady would NOT be considered a franchise QB based on vortex logic.. and this is the problem with vortex logic.. there isnt any logic to it and all it does is make you look stupid

I keep thinking this is as low as you can go and you keep surprising me. I am actually shocked at how stupid you are willing to make yourself look all to attempt to vortex your way out of a simple bad take on a QB. You have done so much more damage to your reputation it is starting to actually be sad.

It was known Brady took below market deals so dont be stupid. In Prescot's situation he wanted 40m and the Cowboys refused. Only after his 5k season and the tag did they agree to 40m. So in the end he had to put up bigger numbers to get the 40m he thought he deserved.

Is Daniel Jones a franchise QB?

 

[dbldrew]

It was known Brady took below market deals so dont be stupid. In Prescot's situation he wanted 40m and the Cowboys refused. Only after his 5k season and the tag did they agree to 40m. So in the end he had to put up bigger numbers to get the 40m he thought he deserved.

Is Daniel Jones a franchise QB?

Your stupidity keeps on going I see. Prescott earning more $$ is not the debate, you said he was not a franchise QB, you also made the stupid claim that the Cowboys didn't think he was a franchise QB after the 2018 season.

The fact that they offered him franchise QB money completely destroyed your point.

You don't build a team by offering franchise money to just a guy.

You asking if Daniel Jones is a franchise QB is just you attempting to change the subject. Remember your statement was that the cowboys didn't view Prescott as a franchise QB, so your question about Jones should be did the Giants think Jones was a franchise QB, the answer would be yes they did because they payed him like he was, looks like they might of been wrong in that thinking, but them being wrong is irrelevant to your incorrect statement that the Cowboys didn't view Prescott as a franchise QB.

Give up your vortex of stupidity, I have never fallen for your attempts at changing the subject, all it will do is just give more examples of how stupid it makes you look.

 

[Anytime23]

Man I keep telling you your vortex is just destroying you here

You bumped a thread from 2019. Dug your own grave.

 

[dbldrew]

You bumped a thread from 2019. Dug your own grave.

Remy demanded I quote him and he is now making a complaint fool of himself is me digging my own grave?

I don't think you coming in here and displaying your own stupidity is going to work to detract from Remy's. Although he might appreciate the sentiment, all it will do is embarrass both of you.

 

[remydat]

Your stupidity keeps on going I see. Prescott earning more $$ is not the debate, you said he was not a franchise QB, you also made the stupid claim that the Cowboys didn't think he was a franchise QB after the 2018 season.

The fact that they offered him franchise QB money completely destroyed your point.

You don't build a team by offering franchise money to just a guy.

You asking if Daniel Jones is a franchise QB is just you attempting to change the subject. Remember your statement was that the cowboys didn't view Prescott as a franchise QB, so your question about Jones should be did the Giants think Jones was a franchise QB, the answer would be yes they did because they payed him like he was, looks like they might of been wrong in that thinking, but them being wrong is irrelevant to your incorrect statement that the Cowboys didn't view Prescott as a franchise QB.

Give up your vortex of stupidity, I have never fallen for your attempts at changing the subject, all it will do is just give more examples of how stupid it makes you look.

They offered him below market for a franchise QB. Just like the Giants offered below market for a franchise QB. And given QBs are hard to find yes teams sometimes offer guys below market deals.

Remy demanded I quote him and he is now making a complaint fool of himself is me digging my own grave?

I don't think you coming in here and displaying your own stupidity is going to work to detract from Remy's. Although he might appreciate the sentiment, all it will do is embarrass both of you.

You still have provided the quote I asked. In all of this you have yet to show where I said Fields or Mitch are as good as Manning, Brees, Allen or Prescott.

So again where is that quote?