I think we’re going to have to worry about Jordan Love being great, guys.

[Montucky]

70 sacks, played all 17 games,troll.

And Jayden Daniels is starting his nineteenth game next week. I guess a track record of durability only counts when its a Bears player.

 

[onebud34]

And Jayden Daniels is starting his nineteenth game next week. I guess a track record of durability only counts when its a Bears player.

Remember when you were worried about Jordan Love being great?

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

I wouldn’t have made such a bold proclamation. But if I’m looking to defend our friend, I would say that the following needs to happen for that prediction to come true:

*Jordan Love essentially stops growing (I think we’re basically there now)

*Sam Darnold signs a contract elsewhere this offseason (seems likely)

*JJ McCarthy becomes the Vikings QB and goes through the typical first-year starting QB troubles.

*Ben Johnson takes the Bears job, which elevates Williams enough and de-elevates Goff enough for Williams to become the best QB in the NFC North.

I wouldn’t be so bold as to predict it, but that list of factors wouldn’t be so outlandishly crazy to actually happen.

Even if Sam Darnold were to stay, everyone saw his limitations that last game.

Your take is pretty much my take right now.

And it's still holds true if the bears end up be coached by Joe Brady or Monken, and Ben Johnson still leaves the Lions for another job.

 

[Montucky]

Remember when you were worried about Jordan Love being great?

He’s still plenty “great” enough to keep the Bears buried in fourth place for the rest of the decade.

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

Remember when you were worried about Jordan Love being great?

I mean at this point do we just say Montucky is really a Packers troll pretending to be a Bears fan?

Based on his horrible takes you could make the argument.....


Maybe we should all just start calling him Wardtucki

 

[HeHateMe]

And Jayden Daniels is starting his nineteenth game next week. I guess a track record of durability only counts when its a Bears player.

Idk why you come to that conclusion but have fun with it!

 

[HeHateMe]

He’s still plenty “great” enough to keep the Bears buried in fourth place for the rest of the decade.

He's plenty great enough to take up a ton of cap!

 

[DefNextYear]

Personally, I think Daniels will be a solid QB, however there's 2 things I worry about:

1) I think he's significantly closer to his ceiling than Caleb is right now (recall how much experience JD already has)
2) Daniels is not a thick QB. At some point a hit is going to be far worse than his somewhat minor mid-season rib injury. Can Daniels live long term in the pocket and not run?

People are going to flip this on me and say I'm discrediting Jayden... maybe I am, but I'll start by saying that Daniels is clearly above the rest right now. He's actually performing at a top 10 QB level. Some would argue higher, and I am too lazy to argue that and simply don't care. I am not saying he hasn't been the most impressive rookie or that he doesn't deserve kudos.

That out of the way, Daniels beat 1 playoff team all year before yesterday. That one team was the Eagles without Hurts. He lost the other 4 games. He even lost to Dallas with Rush. He had the 2nd easiest SOS in football. Even some of the semi good teams he beat... he got great matchups. Like I said, no Hurts... He beat Penix and the Falcons. The Rattler Saints... Daniels had 7 wins against the bottom 10 teams in the league. It's honestly difficult to find a more unimpressive list of opponents. For reference, Caleb had the 2nd hardest SOS. Good on him for taking care of business. Good players do that.

But that said, the book is far from closed when he's asked to compete consistently with the higher end teams. People closing it already are probably doing so cause of other motivations... or the 'woe is me' type of people.

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

People are going to flip this on me and say I'm discrediting Jayden... maybe I am, but I'll start by saying that Daniels is clearly above the rest right now. He's actually performing at a top 10 QB level. Some would argue higher, and I am too lazy to argue that and simply don't care. I am not saying he hasn't been the most impressive rookie or that he doesn't deserve kudos.

That out of the way, Daniels beat 1 playoff team all year before yesterday. That one team was the Eagles without Hurts. He lost the other 4 games. He even lost to Dallas with Rush. He had the 2nd easiest SOS in football. Even some of the semi good teams he beat... he got great matchups. Like I said, no Hurts... He beat Penix and the Falcons. The Rattler Saints... Daniel had 7 wins against the bottom 10 teams in the league. It's honestly difficult to find a more unimpressive list of opponents. For reference, Caleb had the 2nd hardest SOS.

So that said, the book is far from closed when he's asked to compete consistently with the higher end teams. People closing it already are probably doing so cause of other motivations... or the 'woe is me' type of people.

Let's not forget that they cut the field in half and pared down the playbook for Daniels.

He's going to struggle a bit next year as a result of them opening up the playbook and him now needing to fully learn to read defenses.
I expect him to have a down year like CJ Stroud did this year.

 

[cwcwcwcw1]

People are going to flip this on me and say I'm discrediting Jayden... maybe I am, but I'll start by saying that Daniels is clearly above the rest right now. He's actually performing at a top 10 QB level. Some would argue higher, and I am too lazy to argue that and simply don't care. I am not saying he hasn't been the most impressive rookie or that he doesn't deserve kudos.

That out of the way, Daniels beat 1 playoff team all year before yesterday. That one team was the Eagles without Hurts. He lost the other 4 games. He even lost to Dallas with Rush. He had the 2nd easiest SOS in football. Even some of the semi good teams he beat... he got great matchups. Like I said, no Hurts... He beat Penix and the Falcons. The Rattler Saints... Daniels had 7 wins against the bottom 10 teams in the league. It's honestly difficult to find a more unimpressive list of opponents. For reference, Caleb had the 2nd hardest SOS. Good on him for taking care of business. Good players do that.

So that said, the book is far from closed when he's asked to compete consistently with the higher end teams. People closing it already are probably doing so cause of other motivations... or the 'woe is me' type of people.

He also had much better coaching. Which of course REALLY matters in the NFL.

 

[onebud34]

He’s still plenty “great” enough to keep the Bears buried in fourth place for the rest of the decade.

That's not "great" though

 

[Montucky]

People are going to flip this on me and say I'm discrediting Jayden... maybe I am, but I'll start by saying that Daniels is clearly above the rest right now. He's actually performing at a top 10 QB level. Some would argue higher, and I am too lazy to argue that and simply don't care. I am not saying he hasn't been the most impressive rookie or that he doesn't deserve kudos.

That out of the way, Daniels beat 1 playoff team all year before yesterday. That one team was the Eagles without Hurts. He lost the other 4 games. He even lost to Dallas with Rush. He had the 2nd easiest SOS in football. Even some of the semi good teams he beat... he got great matchups. Like I said, no Hurts... He beat Penix and the Falcons. The Rattler Saints... Daniels had 7 wins against the bottom 10 teams in the league. It's honestly difficult to find a more unimpressive list of opponents. For reference, Caleb had the 2nd hardest SOS. Good on him for taking care of business. Good players do that.

But that said, the book is far from closed when he's asked to compete consistently with the higher end teams. People closing it already are probably doing so cause of other motivations... or the 'woe is me' type of people.

Jayden Daniels just won an away playoff game. This holds zero water.

 

[HeHateMe]

Let's not forget that they cut the field in half and pared down the playbook for Daniels.

He's going to struggle a bit next year as a result of them opening up the playbook and him now needing to fully learn to read defenses.
I expect him to have a down year like CJ Stroud did this year.

Don't see any reason why he would struggle next year, and he progressed with whole field reads as this season went on. He's a star and could very well slump next season, but there's nothing that says he won't still be great. And if you're going to reference Stroud and say he had a "down year" maybe you didn't really watch the games he played in or see the challenges he overcame, and maybe you don't know that he advanced his team to a second playoff game this weekend?

I'll take a "down year" like that any season lol

 

[DC]

He believes in the concept of free speech so much that he freely used his speech to say that suggesting that black people got their job without being properly qualified for the sake of diversity evokes bigotry in a way that might violate the rules for posting on this forum.

It’s totally understandable since Caleb is the first black quarterback to ever be drafted.

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

Jayden Daniels just won an away playoff game. This holds zero water.

Football is a team sport, and you don't get to cherry pick when wins are a team stat and when they are a QB stat.

 

[Neckbeard]

Football is a team sport, and you don't get to cherry pick when wins are a team stat and when they are a QB stat.

They were also given a Baker Mayfield gift fumble at the 13 yard line. They don't win without that.

 

[onebud34]

The NFC South might be the worst division in all of football.

Who else here is worried about Love being great besides @Montucky?

 

[DefNextYear]

Jayden Daniels just won an away playoff game. This holds zero water.

That's not at all true. People were crapping on Stroud this year and he won a playoff game last year... and this year. Last year, he was already being talked about as a top 5 QB and he's not anymore. That's the point.

 

[HeHateMe]

The NFC South might be the worst division in all of football.

Who else here is worried about Love being great besides @Montucky?

I think he's more worried about Caleb being a bust, which he himself said he determined early in the season.

Or he's just trolling (more likely) and will let us know In a year or so if Caleb does progress and live up to the talent proposition he presented when he was concensus #1 overall and the Bears "passed up" on Daniels to pick the consensus #1 overall pick.

 

[DC]

Some of us have families, businesses, passions, and even **** buddies. @Montucky has this board.

Take it easy on the lil fella.