Is the DH coming to the NL?

[beckdawg]

Correct, but the potential is for high earners in the DH spot and the pitcher loss would be a depth guy. I get what you're saying though.

Not 100% sure this is accurate. Obviously i get your idea but the problem is that even today there are a lot of iffy DH's. Not every DH is David Ortiz. So, by adding another 15 DH all you are doing is diluting the hitting even further. So, there's no guarantee those hitters will command big salaries. I honestly think it's far more likely you'd just see guys who are presently bench players on NL teams being DH's and most bench bats aren't making more than $5 mil a year. Mean while, you have pitchers like Wood making $5 mil out of the bullpen. Motte IIRC also made around $5 mil last year.

 

[JefferyNotJefferies]

A DH would no doubt make the Cubs an ever more dangerous team and easily the most dangerous hitting lineup in the league by quite a stretch, but I don't want it personally. Make baseball players play baseball. Pitchers are a part of that, too.

 

[chibears55]

That's when you head to the fridge. It's all good.

I usually channel surf when i see Ross and the pitcher due up
that half inning usually last only 2 minutes

 

[chibears55]

We can see DH in NL as early as 2017

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/25457455/manfred-nl-could-get-dh-as-soon-as-2017

 

[Shawon0Meter]

I prefer the current NL style of baseball BUT it's more important to me that it be the same in both leagues...and the DH definitely isn't going away, Bring it on!

 

[TC in Mississippi]

We can see DH in NL as early as 2017

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/eye-on-baseball/25457455/manfred-nl-could-get-dh-as-soon-as-2017

From what I've been hearing there are three major changes that the MLBPA wants on the table

1. Expanded rosters either straight expansion or a "shuttle squad" concept where the roster expands to 28 or 29 but only 25 are active on game days.

2. Elimination of the QO. The players feel this is keeping QO attached players' salaries down 10%-20% and in some cases more. Dexter Fowler is a prime example; he likely would have gotten 4/$60 mil, or in the ballpark, without the QO. With it he's going to be lucky to get half that.

3. The DH in the NL.

The owners if pressed could get behind 1 & 3, they're not giving up the QO. My best guess is that they get one of the other two, maybe both with another concession to the league somewhere.

 

[Parade_Rain]

DH does not have as much traction as some on this particular forum **cough*SilenceS*cough** would have you believe-

It's the identity of the two leagues. Let's face it, NL fans think their game is better. They like the idea of incorporating offensive strategy into the pitcher's spot in the batting order.
They believe it makes managing more difficult, that it adds an assortment of twists and turns into games. And they love that part of it.
In St. Louis and Cincinnati, in Atlanta and Philadelphia and San Francisco, they like their game just the way it is
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There's a willingness to discuss the NL giving the DH a try, but that sentiment is far, far, far from actually changing the rule.
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"I think our owners in general have demonstrated a willingness to change the game in ways we think would be good for the fans -- always respecting the history and tradition of the sport."
If that sounds like there's momentum to change the DH rule, there's not. There's just a willingness to discuss it.
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http://m.mlb.com/news/article/162492422/designated-hitter-to-nl-debate-continues

 

[SilenceS]

DH does not have as much traction as some on this particular forum **cough*SilenceS*cough** would have you believe-

Yea, I am the only one saying it. lol

 

[Parade_Rain]

Yea, I am the only one saying it. lol

I used the word "some". I just happened to call you out specifically since you are the one who seems most strongly mated to it's inevitability.

 

[Diehardfan]

DH does not have as much traction as some on this particular forum **cough*SilenceS*cough** would have you believe-

Yeah, from what I'm reading it doesn't look imminent (thank God) but I do believe that it's coming within the next few years unless NL pitchers suddenly start knocking the ball around the park a bit.

 

[CSF77]

Well, unless they extend the rosters it won't be 15 new jobs. It'll be an additional 15 guys swinging a bat while subtracting 15 guys throwing pitches.

No it would add a arm if anything. Most bench depth is for PH/Depth. With a DH is almost negates the need for a PH at all. So a team could run like Maddon did with Zorbrist where he would give starters a day off. I.e. Sub vs using to PH.

That in my opinion lowers the bench to 1 back up catcher. 1 rotating depth guy then 1-2 other players for emergency depth. A team could get away with 4 on the bench. That in turn adds to the pen.

 

[SilenceS]

I used the word "some". I just happened to call you out specifically since you are the one who seems most strongly mated to it's inevitability.

Cause it is. It's just when. I don't think it's 2017 but some do.


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[Parade_Rain]

Cause it is. It's just when. I don't think it's 2017 but some do.


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The DH may not come to the NL until the year 2525 and you could still claim it's inevitable.

 

[Diehardfan]

The DH may not come to the NL until the year 2525 and you could still claim it's inevitable.

LOL...no time frame on being inevitable.

[video=youtube;yesyhQkYrQM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yesyhQkYrQM[/video]

 

[brett05]

I hate the DH as an NL fan since birth. But that said, I think both leagues should play by the same rules. It's obvious the AL isn't going to abandon the DH and the NL is at a disadvantage vs. the AL who has the DH. So yes, I'd like to see the DH come to the NL.

Plus, you know.... *cough* Schwarber *cough*...

The only disadvantage to the unbalanced rules s the AL. It loses a bat in the NL parks and the NL team gains a bat int he AL parks.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

The only disadvantage to the unbalanced rules s the AL. It loses a bat in the NL parks and the NL team gains a bat int he AL parks.

It's a mixed bag. Yes the NL has the advantage of an extra hitter but with the way benches are constructed in the NL most don't have a guy that adds as much as an AL DH would.

 

[CSF77]

The only disadvantage to the unbalanced rules s the AL. It loses a bat in the NL parks and the NL team gains a bat int he AL parks.

I would say it would be the AL managers not knowing how to utilize their bench later game and NL starters now having to deal with a line up with no easy inning.

 

[DanTown]

The only disadvantage to the unbalanced rules s the AL. It loses a bat in the NL parks and the NL team gains a bat int he AL parks.

AL teams can afford to pay David Ortiz to DH 150 games and know they're getting value; an NL teams 4th OF/5th IF/2nd C is going to be a significantly worse bat.

While I'd prefer a game without a DH because it creates more strategy to the game, I think both leagues should share the same rules and the AL isn't going to get rid of the DH.

 

[Parade_Rain]

I have a hard time understanding why people feel both leagues need to share the same rules. I'm not singling out Dantown just because he posted above. It's a repeated perspective from many posters. Outside of fantasy baseball and pitching stats, I just don't get the need for both leagues to conform.

One of the best ways I can think of to minimize the differences would be to eliminate most interleague play. Just have a rival for each team. The same rival every year (Cubs/Sox, Yanks/Mets, KC/StL, LAAoA/Dodgers, etc.) I get it. It isn't balanced. It isn't fair. Are all of you Packers fans whining about overtime rules, too? Can someone explain to me with good reason why both leagues must be identical?

 

[TC in Mississippi]

I have a hard time understanding why people feel both leagues need to share the same rules. I'm not singling out Dantown just because he posted above. It's a repeated perspective from many posters. Outside of fantasy baseball and pitching stats, I just don't get the need for both leagues to conform.

One of the best ways I can think of to minimize the differences would be to eliminate most interleague play. Just have a rival for each team. The same rival every year (Cubs/Sox, Yanks/Mets, KC/StL, LAAoA/Dodgers, etc.) I get it. It isn't balanced. It isn't fair. Are all of you Packers fans whining about overtime rules, too? Can someone explain to me with good reason why both leagues must be identical?

Honestly, eliminating interleague play would be my solution as well but it helps sell merchandise in cities it's played in appealing to fans of say the Reds in Kansas City where they would otherwise never play. I would have honestly never thought of that until a friend of mine in marketing pointed it out to me a couple of years ago an showed me some numbers. With the availability of just about anything you want on the web the concept is bizarre to me but apparently many people are too ADD to think of their teams until they come to their hometown. Because of that his opinion, and I tend to share it now, is that interleague will never go away. If it's not then I'd like to see the same rules. I'm not at all an advocate for the DH, in fact I was vehemently opposed until recently, but if it is inevitable I would just as soon it be implemented at a time that the Cubs can take advantage of it. If it's not implemented ever I'm not going to be upset. I just think it's odd to have a sport with two different sets of rules.