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[anotheridiot]

IDK. Maybe they should push Contreras into RF full time. Let him play every day and keep status Que with this situation. Mald sucks at hitting but can frame at least.

yeah, good call for a guy with a foot issue.

 

[CSF77]

He got thru a post without discussing Whit Merrifield, and you criticize?! ?

Think he gave up because Garcia went splash.

 

[CSF77]

yeah, good call for a guy with a foot issue.

Do you really think it matters if he is squatting or running? Gravity is a ***** either way.

Add to it they won't push him back unless he is past the arch strain.

 

[anotheridiot]

This is stupidity in action right here.

You know that there are plenty of shit show corner OF in baseball right. Det is selling one right now.

Contreras has 2 things going for himself right now.

A plus bat.

A plus arm.

Everything else takes time and training. And he has another skill set. He is athletic. Which makes the learning curve smaller.

They put them in left field, not right field.

 

[anotheridiot]

Do you really think it matters if he is squatting or running? Gravity is a ***** either way.

Add to it they won't push him back unless he is past the arch strain.

Really? Either move 4 feet around the plate or run 200 feet to try to catch a ball. Well, unless Lester our ace is pitching who cannot field and refuses to throw to bases, then he gets to sprint 60 feet.

Huge difference. I guess you would have had to feel the pain to know you can do less and live with it.

I dont see much more than insurance with Maldonado when Contrares returns. We know Maldonado cannot field for lester, he might get the kid, but Schwarber could have handled the kid.

Sometimes they make a move just to make a move.

 

[Omeletpants]

This is stupidity in action right here.

You know that there are plenty of shit show corner OF in baseball right. Det is selling one right now.

Contreras has 2 things going for himself right now.

A plus bat.

A plus arm.

Everything else takes time and training. And he has another skill set. He is athletic. Which makes the learning curve smaller.

The limited time in RF he has looked bad. You talk like anyone can be made into a plus RF

 

[CSF77]

The limited time in RF he has looked bad. You talk like anyone can be made into a plus RF

Not anyone.

But in his combined 16 innings at RF in his career he has a 60 UZR150 AND A 0 DRS.

Ok there is this thing called a limited exposure. And in his your eyeball exam says he looks like a butcher. And metrics say that he has been accually not a butcher.

But we can take this with a grain of salt. There is not enough exposure to call him out on. That is why I just said tool set vs anything concrete.

Just to toss it out there. If a far less athletic Schwarber can become a neutral valued LF then why can't a far more athletic Contreras not be a neutral valued RF?


Now everything aside in defense and other crybaby bull shit stuff. The real reason why I would like to see a position change?

As a catcher he is playing 120 games on avg. As a OF he would be in the 155 game range.

That is about 120 more PA's per year from one of your premier hitters in the line up.

Every day that he sits the Cubs have a less of a chance of winning that day.

That is why it is worth taking the time to test it out. They did it with Garcia who has far less exposure.

 

[CSF77]

They put them in left field, not right field.

Really? I remember a RF in SD that looked pretty lost out there. The better one was in LF.

Det has a DH out there.

The notion that every RF in baseball is a D God is laughable.

 

[DB012031]

Strop, at least to me, has not looked right since that game last year where Joe had him bat with the base loaded against Washington and he popped that hamstring running to first. That killed the bullpen towards the end of last season and then Strop had a hamstring/groin issue again this year. Again, perhaps its nothing, but it seems like he has never been the same since that game.

 

[DB012031]

I was wondering about this too. Mill's gets pulled sooner than Maddon would have liked, so why not bring in Chatwood to possibly burn 2 innings, thus saving Ryan for later in the game. He had a solid April and May, but June wasn't great. However, if you look at his splits, he seems to be better when he is getting more frequent appearances. The longer the layoff, he has a tendency to get hit. Hindsight always 20/20 but pulling Mills that early, Chatwood seems like the more logical choice.

What I also didn't understand is that I don't recall a single mound visit when Strop lost it...WTF, we had plenty of visits left. Why didn't the pitching coach or the catcher go out there, take a few to calm him down, get him refocused AND get Joe to get Kintzler up and ready. Kintzler has been our best reliever this year and had 2 days of rest, no reason not to have him warming up. Joe's tendency to just leave a guy in is maddening at best (yes pun intended).

Yes, Strop didn't get it done, that's a fact... But Joe didn't help himself either....Should have used a mound visit, a couple of pitch outs to first base and had Kintzler warming up.

 

[Omeletpants]

Not anyone.

But in his combined 16 innings at RF in his career he has a 60 UZR150 AND A 0 DRS.

Ok there is this thing called a limited exposure. And in his your eyeball exam says he looks like a butcher. And metrics say that he has been accually not a butcher.

But we can take this with a grain of salt. There is not enough exposure to call him out on. That is why I just said tool set vs anything concrete.

Just to toss it out there. If a far less athletic Schwarber can become a neutral valued LF then why can't a far more athletic Contreras not be a neutral valued RF?


Now everything aside in defense and other crybaby bull shit stuff. The real reason why I would like to see a position change?

As a catcher he is playing 120 games on avg. As a OF he would be in the 155 game range.

That is about 120 more PA's per year from one of your premier hitters in the line up.

Every day that he sits the Cubs have a less of a chance of winning that day.

That is why it is worth taking the time to test it out. They did it with Garcia who has far less exposure.

Cause Contreras-Heyward-Schwarber is a brutal OF

 

[CSF77]

Cause Contreras-Heyward-Schwarber is a brutal OF

 

[anotheridiot]

Really? I remember a RF in SD that looked pretty lost out there. The better one was in LF.

Det has a DH out there.

The notion that every RF in baseball is a D God is laughable.

Did you see Bryant lose that ball in the sun and the wind when he was playing right field?

So now, because both San Diego and Detroit ( division leading clubs) have butchers in right field its OK for the cubs to have one? Is this butcher you claim detroit has out there the Castellanos guy that the cubs have been rumored to be looking at?

All Heywards value is in right field, not center. Theo realized that in spring training and brought Fowler back because of it. Might as well put Bryant in center where he would rather play or put Contrares out there.

 

[Omeletpants]

AGAIN: Schwarber, Heyward, Contreras in the palyoffs is like a highwire act over the grand canyon

 

[CSF77]

All Heywards value is in right field, not center. Theo realized that in spring training and brought Fowler back because of it. Might as well put Bryant in center where he would rather play or put Contrares out there.

They brought him back because he did not get the deal that he wanted and took a 1 year deal.

You don't go into spring training with a glaring position void like that.

You crack me up some times. One side of your mouth you speak non sense about Bryant losing the sun in the OF then out of your other side clamouring about Schwarber catching again.

Catcher is a far more vital role than a corner OF.

 

[CSF77]

AGAIN: Schwarber, Heyward, Contreras in the palyoffs is like a highwire act over the grand canyon

 

[jooo83]

What's the alternative?

I hear ya. The answer to that question may ultimately determine how far the cubs go this season.

 

[Omeletpants]

SCHWARBER IS THE PERFECT MATCH UP AGAINST MADBUM. GOOD CALL JOE

 

[DanTown]

Do you guys remember the guy who said Kris Bryant was a shell of himself? God, I think about that post at least once a day.

 

[TL1961]

Do you guys remember the guy who said Kris Bryant was a shell of himself? God, I think about that post at least once a day.

7th best WRC+ in MLB. Ol Shel can play a little.