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He's been throwing for what now, three or four weeks between here and Iowa? After all that time and energy spent staying ready to go?

The thing about closers and relievers is the line between great and terrible is so thin for them. I really think he needs a new pitch; his two pitch routine doesn't work at 94-95.
What worries me about that is he was hitting 95-96 last year and he was down on velocity. Tonight, he pumped straight 94 and was yanking fastballs.
 

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- When does this Addison Russell experiment end? When? This is ridiculous.

- Kimbrel didn't do his job. You can't walk Diaz there and then give up a meatball to a .194 hitter.

- This team STINKS right now. I hope they lose these next 3 and it serves as a wake up call at the all-star break because right now? They are lucky to even be a game back.
 

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Jesse Rogers reported that Heyward is hurt or hurting right now. It seems to be the reason Joe stayed away.
Hey...here is an idea for you. Play outfielders in the outfield and play infielders on the infield. Stop pretending since Contreras played outfield in 2nd grade he is good to go in the major leagues. No other outfielders sitting on the bench to cover right field in the ninth inning of a one run game? Maddon thinks he is so fucking smart. Unfortunately it is far from the truth. Can't wait for his presser blaming anyone and everything except himself. Or maybe the art on the wall.
 

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- When does this Addison Russell experiment end? When? This is ridiculous.

- Kimbrel didn't do his job. You can't walk Diaz there and then give up a meatball to a .194 hitter.

- This team STINKS right now. I hope they lose these next 3 and it serves as a wake up call at the all-star break because right now? They are lucky to even be a game back.
Not only is his a shitty person, he is fucking stupid. The worst part was they even had a meeting on the mound. I highly doubt he was told play back, but go home with it.
 

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Until otherwise changed, this would be lineup

Heyward - CF
Bryant - 3B
Rizzo - 1B
Baez - SS
Contreras - RF
Caratini - C
Schwarber - LF
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Bote - 2B

Just get them all out there for a week, let them figure it out and go.
 

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I dont care what anyone says this team is still the best in the division. They have all the talent. They need the all star break and they need to regroup. They have played like absolute shit and still a game out.

All BS aside

It gonna come down to who able to go on a hot run in the 2nd half between the Cubs and Brewers ..

But Theo gonna need to find a way to add some help for the bats and BP..
Money tight, and I'm not sure they want to unload their better prospects now..
We'll see
 

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Not only is his a shitty person, he is fucking stupid. The worst part was they even had a meeting on the mound. I highly doubt he was told play back, but go home with it.

There is not one positive he brings to the table. His defense isn't good anymore, he can't hit and he's a PR nightmare.
 

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Hey...here is an idea for you. Play outfielders in the outfield and play infielders on the infield. Stop pretending since Contreras played outfield in 2nd grade he is good to go in the major leagues. No other outfielders sitting on the bench to cover right field in the ninth inning of a one run game? Maddon thinks he is so fucking smart. Unfortunately it is far from the truth. Can't wait for his presser blaming anyone and everything except himself. Or maybe the art on the wall.
That catcher hosed a runner the inning before. Stop being pretentious dick cause you have a hard on for Joe. These are professional athletes that collectively collapsed on their own.
 

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Hey...here is an idea for you. Play outfielders in the outfield and play infielders on the infield. Stop pretending since Contreras played outfield in 2nd grade he is good to go in the major leagues. No other outfielders sitting on the bench to cover right field in the ninth inning of a one run game? Maddon thinks he is so fucking smart. Unfortunately it is far from the truth. Can't wait for his presser blaming anyone and everything except himself. Or maybe the art on the wall.

He gunned down a runner in the 8th and nobody complained.
 

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Ok. I get that people are upset.
But are we seriously blaming Kimbrel for that inning?
What game were you watching?

Blame him? No, that's not how this works. I'm saying I wasn't impressed and that wasn't some case of super tough luck. He walked a guy he shouldn't and gave up the winning hit fairly cleanly. He didn't generate swings and misses. What do you want me to say about the high priced closer - he got bad luck when they made contact? He's paid and asked to limit contact, that's the whole point here.
 

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Until otherwise changed, this would be lineup

Heyward - CF
Bryant - 3B
Rizzo - 1B
Baez - SS
Contreras - RF
Caratini - C
Schwarber - LF
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Bote - 2B

Just get them all out there for a week, let them figure it out and go.
Yeah...let's put the all star catcher out in right field where he just muffed a simple fly ball and lost the game. Fucking genius
 

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All BS aside

It gonna come down to who able to go on a hot run in the 2nd half between the Cubs and Brewers ..

But Theo gonna need to find a way to add some help for the bats and BP..
Money tight, and I'm not sure they want to unload their better prospects now..
We'll see
I dont disagree with that. I dont think they need bats. They need a bat that elongates their lineup. It also doesnt help that Rizzo has hit like shit for over a month. BP they need a LOOGY. But, if Kimbrel isnt Kimbrel then we have problems
 

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Is the reason they're not sending Russell down/DFA the issue that if they release him for poor performance and didn't release him for being a terrible human being that they value winning more than people? We already knew that when they brought Chapman in AND when they kept Russell anyway.

Russell nor Schwarber has looked any better for any consistent amount of time since 2016 yet here we sit in 2019.
 

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I dont care what anyone says this team is still the best in the division. They have all the talent. They need the all star break and they need to regroup. They have played like absolute shit and still a game out.
Silence what happened on the Contreras play? I had to watch the 8th and 9th on my phone on mlb.com’s game cast riding home from being gone all day and it just said Jung doubled to Contreras in right but keep seeing people say it should have been caught and he didn’t squeeze it
 

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I really hope Zobrist comes back. I know he wasnt good when he played, but that could of been the whole divorce thing. We miss his calmness and professional at bats.
 

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That catcher hosed a runner the inning before. Stop being pretentious dick cause you have a hard on for Joe. These are professional athletes that collectively collapsed on their own.
Not a pretentious dick ..Just a dick because I think Maddon believes he is smarter than everyone else and he isn't. That catcher still flubbed a ball 99 percent of major league outfielders make.

I didn't put him in right field. Maddon did.
 

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Silence what happened on the Contreras play? I had to watch the 8th and 9th on my phone on mlb.com’s game cast riding home from being gone all day and it just said Jung doubled to Contreras in right but keep seeing people say it should have been caught and he didn’t squeeze it
He was playing no double, so he was far into the group. He had to make a full sprint for the ball and just kind of whiffed on it. It was a really hard play, but one he would say he should make. He didnt get glove.
 

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Ok. I get that people are upset.
But are we seriously blaming Kimbrel for that inning?
What game were you watching?


No. There's a lot of blame to go around. I just don't think he did his job. The walk hurt and then giving up the hit to a poor hitter. However, they still should have been out of that inning at worst tied.v
 

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Not a pretentious dick ..Just a dick because I think Maddon believes he is smarter than everyone else and he isn't. That catcher still flubbed a ball 99 percent of major league outfielders make.

I didn't put him in right field. Maddon did.
99% Schwarber gets no where near that ball and he is just on our team. Contreras can run which is what made it close.
 

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Yeah...let's put the all star catcher out in right field where he just muffed a simple fly ball and lost the game. Fucking genius

He literally saved the game at the time being in the 8th..
 

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