IST: Cubs vs. Mets

[Ari Bear]

And thats why we need pen help.

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[TC in Mississippi]

Cause maybe a scout recently said his swing is one of the worst he has seen in his career? Or that he continues to try to pull everything and has earned his nickname: "4-3", except recently he can barely get the ball to the second baseman.

My guess is that he works at it in the offseason and gets back to the .265/.350/.450 hitter he's always been. He was a 6 WAR player a year ago.

 

[beckdawg]

What makes you believe he won't get back to his career numbers? Usually 26 year olds don't fall off the map.

And more to the point, Heyward's been worth 1.4 fWAR this year while hitting .236/.326/.326. He's roughly on a 2.5-3 fWAR pace this season. The most he makes at any point in that contract is next year at $28.2 mil. Given that you're generally talking around $8 mil per fWAR to buy a FA, he's within range of that value already. If he doesn't opt out the back end of his contract looks fine if he continues to be a 3 fWAR player. He makes 20, 21, 21, 22, and 22 mil each of the final 5 years.

 

[Ari Bear]

 

[Ari Bear]

Rizzo owns Colon! Three homers against him in his last two outings!

 

[TC in Mississippi]

4 out of 6 since the break, 2 series won from teams with an aggregate .555 winning percentage. Oh and every starting pitcher has pitched well. Let's lay off the doom and gloom for a while shall we?

 

[beckdawg]

Like i said before the game, with the way Hendricks is pitching right now you might as well hang the W

 

[DJMoore_is_fat]

4 out of 6 since the break, 2 series won from teams with an aggregate .555 winning percentage. Oh and every starting pitcher has pitched well. Let's lay off the doom and gloom for a while shall we?

We're a different team after that final Pirates game. I was very doom and gloom during our stunning free fall -- but what I didn't consider at the time was we had played 24 games in a row. The Players Union should throw a fit about that. No team should ever play 24 straight games -- its absolutely appalling that it happened.

We were in a rut which was exasperated by injuries and a crippling 24 straight games.

The W flag is flying once again. Now its time for Thed Hoystein to fill our holes and let's see how it shakes out in the post season.

#Cardinals_Suck

 

[DJMoore_is_fat]

Like i said before the game, with the way Hendricks is pitching right now you might as well hang the W

He's the best pitcher on the staff and one of the best pitchers in the NL. The dude deals like he's at a Vegas poker table.

 

[Ari Bear]

Yess! And we won the series against the Mets who before won 8 straight games against us! Before this series I was beginning to that the Mets were the Cubs Kryptonite. But not anymore.
:buttrock::cubs:

 

[DanTown]

We're a different team after that final Pirates game. I was very doom and gloom during our stunning free fall -- but what I didn't consider at the time was we had played 24 games in a row. The Players Union should throw a fit about that. No team should ever play 24 straight games -- its absolutely appalling that it happened.

We were in a rut which was exasperated by injuries and a crippling 24 straight games.

The W flag is flying once again. Now its time for Thed Hoystein to fill our holes and let's see how it shakes out in the post season.

#Cardinals_Suck

Cubs played that makeup game (hence the consecutive nature of 24 games) and the players would have had to approve it for it to happen.

 

[Parade_Rain]

My guess is that he works at it in the offseason and gets back to the .265/.350/.450 hitter he's always been. He was a 6 WAR player a year ago.

His hands are too high and he swings the bat like a club. I see many 11-12 year old kids that come through my facility who swing similarly. He needs work. Does not understand the relationship of the back elbow being up/coming down correctly.

 

[TC in Mississippi]

His hands are too high and he swings the bat like a club. I see many 11-12 year old kids that come through my facility who swing similarly. He needs work. Does not understand the relationship of the back elbow being up/coming down correctly.

Oh I didn't say his swing wasn't effed up. It's gotten worse here actually and it was always screwy, especially for his gifts. I think he's young enough where he can get back to himself with some incremental improvments. I don't think the bum wrist happening while he was just getting used to working with john Mallee helped either. By all accounts this is a good, hardworking kid and I don't believe he's gone to hell in 10 months.

 

[beckdawg]

I don't remember where I read it but some where I read that they noticed a particular hitch in his swing recently and have been working to iron it out. He's probably never going to have a majestic swing like say Griffey Jr. but clearly in the past he had one that worked well enough for him.

 

[Diehardfan]

4 out of 6 since the break, 2 series won from teams with an aggregate .555 winning percentage. Oh and every starting pitcher has pitched well. Let's lay off the doom and gloom for a while shall we?

One win sends the chicken little's of the CCS scurrying back to their coop.

 

[SilenceS]

I don't remember where I read it but some where I read that they noticed a particular hitch in his swing recently and have been working to iron it out. He's probably never going to have a majestic swing like say Griffey Jr. but clearly in the past he had one that worked well enough for him.

The Cubs are saying his top hand is over powering his bottom hand which is causing him to roll over on so many pitches.

 

[Parade_Rain]

The Cubs are saying his top hand is over powering his bottom hand which is causing him to roll over on so many pitches.

That's believable. His swing is so hands-centric, they aren't tied to his rotation well.

 

[NCChiFan]

It is amazing we, as a forum, questioned Epstien's infatuation with Rizzo just a few short years ago. I question no more.

 

[CSF77]

At least Heyward is not injured like other OF...err 3 out of 4 opening day OF.

 

[SilenceS]

Fowler is back Friday!