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Herp derp.

I know what you were showing.

The "conclusions" people come to based off of them are many times rolled into "advanced" stats.

who are these people? If I saw those stats, I wouldn't look into it any more than what it's showing. And what it was showing was how many shots each team took from a certain spot on the floor.

from your last post:

Pretty stupid analysis saying that the only time the Heat took it to the rim resulted in shots

No one said that. I did write "took it to the rim" but what I meant was shots attempted at the rim... and if you looked at the links, you would have got what I meant since the number was right there showing how many times each team "took it to the rim"

The stats I showed were just basic and pretty straightforward trying to show 1 thing. I think you looked into it too much. That, or you took "took it to the rim" too literally.
Based on the previous quote and this:

It's as though I would think that in order to see "at rim" takes you'd also have to somewhat look at assists generated and from where on the floor they came from.

Lebron taking it at the rim doesn't always equate to a shot. it could equate to a kick out as well.

I think you might have taken it too literally.
 

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No one said that.
Read your post again artard.

You said "took it to the rim" and simply counted up the total "at rim" shot attempts.

Herp Derp.



That, or you took "took it to the rim" too literally.
Yeah, silly me. I figured a "took it to the rim" stat would show all times the ball was taken "to the rim".
 

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Read your post again artard.

You said "took it to the rim" and simply counted up the total "at rim" shot attempts.

Herp Derp.

Why only post part of my quote? I also said, right after that: "I did write "took it to the rim" but what I meant was shots attempted at the rim."

I bet nearly everyone would read that and assume that I meant shots attempted at the rim.

Even if they didn't assume that... after I posted the links, you/they could have clicked on them to see that the "at rim" attempts were the same exact numbers I put for "took it to the rim." So there shouldn't have been any confusion... right?



Yeah, silly me. I figured a "took it to the rim" stat would show all times the ball was taken "to the rim".

So you did take it too literally... and probably didn't look at the links after you asked me to cite it? Because I don't think there even is a stat on those links that even show how many times a player LITERALLY took it to the rim.
 

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Why only post part of my quote?
Because the rest of it was pretty stupid.



I bet nearly everyone would read that and assume that I meant shots attempted at the rim.
There are a lot of stupid people at this site.



Even if they didn't assume that... after I posted the links, you/they could have clicked on them to see that the "at rim" attempts were the same exact numbers I put for "took it to the rim." So there shouldn't have been any confusion... right?
I agree, there should have been no confusion..that you were being pretty dumb/lazy.





So you did take it too literally
No, I took the "stat" to tell me what you said it did. "Took it to the rim". Taking the ball to the rim doesn't require/always end in a shot. Thus your statements were not only lazy, but not factual.

Don't get pissy with me just because you're too stupid and/or lazy to put any thought into a post.
 

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LOL at Rami saying Thabo is playing the 4 for a large chunk of the game.

The issue here isn't the pacing of the game for OKC it's that Harden has been completely taken out of the series for the most part. Frankly he looks like the moment is too big for him. He just seems to be really lacking confidence right now and seems shook.

It also helps the Heat out a lot that Shane Battier decided to show up and after having a pretty uninspiring regular season has been playing his best basketball at the right time.

Obviously Lebron is playing like a man amongst boys as well.

OKC's pacing isn't the issue. The issue is the Heat have more key players playing well/really well than the Thunder do right now.



Tough to hate on Westbrook last night after a 43 point game but that turnover off his foot with the Thunder up two really hurt...a lot.

that tip to chalmers was reminiscent of his tip in the Arizona NC game
 

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Because the rest of it was pretty stupid.




There are a lot of stupid people at this site.




I agree, there should have been no confusion..that you were being pretty dumb/lazy.






No, I took the "stat" to tell me what you said it did. "Took it to the rim". Taking the ball to the rim doesn't require/always end in a shot. Thus your statements were not only lazy, but not factual.

Don't get pissy with me just because you're too stupid and/or lazy to put any thought into a post.

hahaha. Who's getting pissy? Seems like you are. You're the one who's now insulting me calling me stupid/lazy and dislike-repping me while calling me a moron... for what? Just saying you're taking something too literally? Come on FT... You're 27?.. not 7.

If anything, you're the lazy/stupid one here for not looking at the links and putting 2 and 2 together and taking something too literally.
 

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There is nothing outrageous about pointing out Sefolosha/Harden/Durant all have taken turns guarding Miami's offensive PF (LeBron James). Sefolosha, or Harden for that matter, obviously do not play the 4 within the OKC offense nor did I state that they did.
 

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hahaha. Who's getting pissy?
You.

Seems like you are.
More lazy.bad analysis.

You're the one who's now insulting me calling me stupid/lazy and dislike-repping me while calling me a moron... for what?
I figured that'd be obvious.

For being lazy/stupid and a moron.

Did that get by you too?


If anything, you're the lazy/stupid one here for not looking at the links and putting 2 and 2 together and taking something too literally.
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I did look at the links dipshit. Hence how I knew how/why you came to the "take it to the rim" numbers. Which was my entire point in your flawed "analysis".

The issue isn't that I didn't look at the link. The issue is that I did, and realized you labeling "take it to the rim" and using nothing more than total shot attempts was hilariously bad way of approaching things.

Again, not my fault you were too lazy to use your words and type out what you were saying.
 

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More lazy.bad analysis.


I figured that'd be obvious.

For being lazy/stupid and a moron.

Did that get by you too?



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I did look at the links dipshit. Hence how I knew how/why you came to the "take it to the rim" numbers. Which was my entire point in your flawed "analysis".

The issue isn't that I didn't look at the link. The issue is that I did, and realized you labeling "take it to the rim" and using nothing more than total shot attempts was hilariously bad way of approaching things.

Again, not my fault you were too lazy to use your words and type out what you were saying.

If you knew my point and what I was trying to say, then why even write about taking it to the rim and kicking it out?

"hahahah he said they "took it to the rim" when they really attempted a shot at the rim. Let me waste my time on this post to show that taking it to the rim can also mean kicking it out when getting there and mention advanced stats even though he didn't show any! HAHA!"

I bet when someone says "I'm so hungry I can eat a horse.." You reply with "That's impossible. The human stomach is not large enough to contain a whole horse. I think what you meant to say is "You're so hungry you can eat a small portion of a horse."

Or when watching a game and someone says "Wow! he flew past the defender!" You say, "Actually... he ran quickly past the defender. he didn't fly as he didn't leave the ground and didn't take flight"

And watch the insults man. Did you real the new CCS guidelines? Insulting me after I have made you look bad is a new no-no.
 

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If you knew my point and what I was trying to say

then why even write about taking it to the rim and kicking it out?
Because I knew what you were trying to say, but you were looking at it incorrectly.

It's possible to draw correct conclusions with flawed/semi flawed analysis. Essentially the "Even Rami is right occasionally" law of message board science.




I bet when someone says "I'm so hungry I can eat a horse.."
Metaphors/anecdotes =/= shitty statistical analysis.




Insulting me after I have made you look bad is a new no-no.
You'd have to make me look bad first there Sir Dippum Shits.
 
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OKC really needed to play a fundamentally-sound style of basketball in this series. You can't beat Miami with talent; it has to be with strategy and coaching. That has been a failure so far.

They need to either put Ibaka on LeBron or play zone defense. Or else LeBron will keep pounding the ball into the paint at will and OKC can watch them raise the trophy as a result. They need Ibaka on LeBron and Perkins/Collison on Bosh. Sure, you can put KD/Sef/Harden on James at times. But you NEED to force LeBron into being a jump-shooter because that isn't how he typically beats you.

That part is true. Lebron taking jumpers is what you want. Thabo will have a chance of doing that. Ibaka will not. He's too slow and he will get blown by every possession. The Thunder aren't losing this game because of their defense, they're losing because their offense has been way worse than earlier in the playoffs. Even their free throw shooting has taken a huge dive...and they were one of the best free throw shooting teams (or the best, don't remember) during the playoffs. James Harden has vanished offensively. The only guy playing up to the moment is Durant. Westbrook has been pretty much the same as he has been so I won't fault him either, but as for the rest of the team, they need to step it up.
 

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Because I knew what you were trying to say, but you were looking at it incorrectly.

It's possible to draw correct conclusions with flawed-semi flawed analysis. Essentially the "Even Rami is right occasionally" law of message board science.





Metaphors/anecdotes =/= shitty statistical analysis.





You'd have to make me look bad first there Sir Dippum Shits.

so instead of replying with "Do you mean shots attempted at the rim?" why pretend to act like I literally meant them taking it to the rim? If you just asked if I meant shots attempted at the rim, it could have ended there.

So it's either you were just pretending to not know what I meant and reply to me as if I meant "took it to the rim" literally as a bad troll attempt... or you realized I didn't mean that literally after I pointed it out, and now you're trying to say I'm an idiot for using "wrong wording" while claiming to know what I was talking about the whole time. I would hope that it's the former.

Either way, I find it amusing how offended you seem to have gotten when I said you took something literally.
 
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so instead of replying with "Do you mean shots attempted at the rim?" why pretend to act like I literally meant them taking it to the rim?
I wasn't "pretending" anything.

I seriously thought you were that stupid to analyze "took it to the rim" based off nothing more than shot attempts.
 
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I wasn't "pretending" anything.

I seriously thought you were that stupid to analyze "took it to the rim" based off nothing more than shot attempts.

Then you thought wrong haha... because I was well aware that the attempts at the rim stat were just that. Attempts at the rim.


Well...I guess that's that then..
 
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