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I am a bit of a Trubisky fan, but that throw was no where near Graham...what route was he stopping...the ball was not in his reachPlays such as this, where Graham stops his route because he doesn’t want to take contact and in turn offers up a freebie INT to the defense, are not going to help a rookie QB...
I really hate this guys game.
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That's what i was gonna say that it looks like the ball is overthrown a bit.
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Yeah - I looked at it from a couple of different angles, trying to see what Adi was talking about, and I just don't see it.
Both don't have a great angle, but what Adi doesn't understand is that not all routes are full go, top speed. There are tempo changes in routes to throw DBs off kilter, and other routes where a receiver gets to a spot, sits, and then starts up again.
This didn't look like a miscommunication of the route - as a matter of fact, if ball placement was better, Graham had the opportunity to have a reception underneath, even with 2 defenders behind him. The ball almost seems like it sailed high and to the left of the spot where it needed to go. And if the route was where Adi was saying it should have been, that would have actually given the defender behind and to the left of Graham an even better shot at an INT given the pass sailed.
As it is, it looks like an errant throw. And Graham's body language suggests he thought so as well...
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Well if anyone can find the right angle on any play to tell us if the ball was on target or overthrown or badly thrown it's our guy Adi the All-22 king....
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Regardless of Graham’s route it was an absolutely terrible read from Trubs. His eyes lead the D to converge on Graham and he forced it in there because he has no field awareness. That should’ve been a pitch and catch to Kmet for a walk in TD. That play is a microcosm of Trubs career here.
Plays like this are why I still have the slightest sliver of hope for Nagy’s offense, even though Lazor called that game it’s still Nagy’s playbook. The plays are there to be made. Maybe with a decent QB Nagy can find a rhythm once plays like that are executed correctly.
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Yeah a QB that can read a defense and see the whole field could make Nagy look like he knows what he's doing again.
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Don't think they cut Fuller first cause they thought Graham was a better player. Cutting him just freed up twice the cap space that cutting Graham would have at a time they were desperate to sign another crap FA QB.
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Two things can be true.
1. Trubs is garbage.
2. Graham is soft as hell and grossly overrated by Bears fans.
1. Trubs is garbage.
2. Graham is soft as hell and grossly overrated by Bears fans.
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Bears had already signed Dalton when they cut Fuller...they could have restructured Fuller and cut Graham to free up as much room
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We would need to find another option at TE and the list isn’t great.
Jesse James
Richard Rodgers
Tyler Eifert
But if you told me we could turn that Graham money into a full time starter or contributor at a more valuable position I would have to listen.
Jesse James
Richard Rodgers
Tyler Eifert
But if you told me we could turn that Graham money into a full time starter or contributor at a more valuable position I would have to listen.
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......If he doesn't agree to pay cut.
Chicago Bears: Is Jimmy Graham on his way out the door?
The Chicago Bears are still dealing with some salary cap restraints that could affect Jimmy Graham staying on the team. Rumors are a pay cut or pink slip.beargoggleson.com
How do feel about Graham potentially leaving?
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We are probably still paying him.
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Maybe it was just me but I thought that starting around the second half of the season that I saw Kmet wide open down the field.
Alot of the time it seemed like the offensive line was giving the QB plenty of time, Kmet would be open, but the ball found its way to a fixated target caught in tight coverage.
For as much flack as the Oline caught last season, and in need of clear upgrades, I still dont think they were nearly as bad as advertised.
I still believe the biggest problems were a HC who refused to adjust and a couple QBs who couldnt adjust.
Getting Fields to me almost feels like having a brand new BITCHIN' 2021 Camero dropped into your lap, better yet driveway & theyre going full throttle with the mthrfkr along with Mooney and Kmet.
Things are gonna change & change for the better(I think)...
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I'd rather he stay for this year but it'd be nice if he took a pay cut.
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I have a feeling the high majority of bears fans know what we have in jimmy graham.
He's just a guy. Replaceable, but not at this point of the offseason.
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I agree. For the limited playing time Kmet received I saw him get open on a number of occasions and with different routes. Like you mentioned, we didn’t have the QBs capable of finding him when he was open. Instead of forcing it downfield, hit the wide open TE for a 5-6 yard gain
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Honestly, I made a big thread about cutting jimmy but I don't see the point now.
The roster is mostly set, unless some stupid gets cut at CB/RT that could help the roster a lot more than Jimmy G I think its pointless.
Gotta give fields as many vets to learn from on offense as possible. Outside of the two ancient dinosaurs we have at backup QB there isn't many savvy vets on this offensive side of the ball. Mostly young dudes.
I just don't want fields throwing an INT because dumbass antmill ran the wrong route. Least with jimmy G you know that probably won't happen.
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Eh I would rather roll the 7m over to next year when it can be used to actually help build a contender. Graham is not the difference between playoffs or not this year. He also isnt the difference between Fields being a stud or not.