Jaeckal Blog - Power Struggle at the top of the Organ-I-zation

[the canadian dream]

I did a research last year about qs teams in the playoffs and i think the stats showed that 80percent of his playoff loses were to teams that went on to win the cup. Not sure if that means anything in the long run but it was interesting none the less. Or not i am easily amused.

i did it myself just went through the playoff years and looked through the match ups those years. 80 percent May not be right but it was some large percentage. Maybe ill do that research again tonight. For some reason q interests me. Must be the stach.



I really think q is fighting a fight he can't win with the org right now. i can't wait until he is fired....more so to hear the soundbites from him when he no longer has to suck mcdonuts. **** and kiss his ass. I think we will be in for a treat.



Speaking of sound bites. Im still waiting to hear from stan or anyone in the front office. I think the last stan interview i saw was about 7 months ago. Q seems to have to carry the weight of the head office slackers in that department also. Anyone ever get the feeling that q probably isn't given the ample time to actually coach anymore and that could be part of the issue? Never seen a coach have to answer so many questions which should be directed at management. Just saying.

 

[EspoForever]

That would be nice, but I don't think he'll come back to this circus...

That's what I am afraid of. I just hope we are imaging more drama than there is.



There is one additional possible reason why we may be so careful about committing cash too...prepping for a bidding war with Detroit and Nashville for Shea Weber? Possibility...

 

[supraman]

That's what I am afraid of. I just hope we are imaging more drama than there is.



There is one additional possible reason why we may be so careful about committing cash too...prepping for a bidding war with Detroit and Nashville for Shea Weber? Possibility...

suter please. His Uncle wore our colors, he should too.

 

[Ton]

Q's success percentage (minus the year he was fired before playoffs):



Out of Playoffs: 8%

Conference Quarter-final exits: 31%

Conference Semi-final exits: 38%

Conference Final exits: 15%

Stanley Cup Final exit: 0%

Stanley Cup Champion: 8%



A good majority of his career he was playing past the 1st round in the playoffs, so it's possible a good amount of teams that he played against went on to win the Cup.

 

[Pez68]

 

[Pez68]

Q's success percentage (minus the year he was fired before playoffs):



Out of Playoffs: 8%

Conference Quarter-final exits: 31%

Conference Semi-final exits: 38%

Conference Final exits: 15%

Stanley Cup Final exit: 0%

Stanley Cup Champion: 8%

So 77% of the time he either misses the playoffs or is knocked out in the first 2 rounds.



Then you look at the teams he coached.



Then you're like.....

 

[DBQHawkFan]

I don't hate Lepisto or O'Donnell as much as some, I don't think they have been far sub par of my expectation for 5-6-7 D-men.



Carcillo, Brunette, Frolik...I could do without, but they are short term and low cap hit. So I feel kind of "Meh" on that. I am a fan of letting young players have some time in the AHL to get a few things worked out.



My main problem with our team is that, starting with the banner-raising night our team stopped being coached to understand the value of posessing the puck. We want to move ahead at all cost...our guys switched on the puck posession for 5-6 games and we had a nice little run...then right back to crap. We keep making the wrong decision with the puck...over and over and over...



That is coaching. Players need to be allowed to play together to understand each other. They need to be left on a line longer than one period.



I do not think our replacement coach is sitting our on the sidelines right now, so why fire Q now unless he is a cancer. None of us really know who hates who or what's true. People in the workplace disagree all the time without neccessarily disrespecting each other.



I think our next coach is coaching the Houston Aeros now...just hope his parent club does not beat us to the chance to promote him.

Frolik? Short term, low cap hit? We got him for 2 more years at $2.333 Million.

 

[klemmer]

That's what I am afraid of. I just hope we are imaging more drama than there is.



There is one additional possible reason why we may be so careful about committing cash too...prepping for a bidding war with Detroit and Nashville for Shea Weber? Possibility...

We very well could be. The fact remains that McPimp shitcanned a NHL GM and replaced him with an accountant.



I believe that fact alone would cause most qualified candidates to think twice before working for the Hawks.

 

[LordKOTL]

Honestly, If Toews gets sick of the shenanigans and ends up being traded, I would think it would force Rocky to give the front office an enema lest the team end up like the final days of the Pullford era.

 

[DBQHawkFan]

suter please. His Uncle wore our colors, he should too.

Second that!

 

[R K]

That's what I am afraid of. I just hope we are imaging more drama than there is.



There is one additional possible reason why we may be so careful about committing cash too...prepping for a bidding war with Detroit and Nashville for Shea Weber? Possibility...

You aren't. Coach blows, owner doesn't want to spend more money, President-CEO has no clue what he's doing and the rest of the NHL hates him, which then effects the GM. I'm not sure what more drama you can have, especially two years removed from winning a Stanley Cup that really, NONE of them had much to do with.



yup that about sums it up.

 

[DBQHawkFan]

You aren't. Coach blows, owner doesn't want to spend more money, President-CEO has no clue what he's doing and the rest of the NHL hates him, which then effects the GM. I'm not sure what more drama you can have, especially two years removed from winning a Stanley Cup that really, NONE of them had much to do with.



yup that about sums it up.

The only way Rocky will get a clue is if it starts hitting him in the pocket book. I truly believe that now that he has the cup, that is all he cares about. Yet ticket prices are through the damn roof. And probably going up again next year. But they will have people buying them until they come up with a 1st line like Armason, Bell and Calder again. But that type of shit is going to wear on the core.....BIG TIME!!!!!

 

[the canadian dream]

So 77% of the time he either misses the playoffs or is knocked out in the first 2 rounds.



Then you look at the teams he coached.



Then you're like.....

or you could look at it as he has made the playoffs 92 percent of the time. Find me a coach with that sort of percentage.



Coaches with good teams lose in the playoffs. Its not some sort of low percentage. Even good old scotty bowman Mr greatest coach of all time lost with good teams. Even the oilers and pens lost with good teams.



Hell on a rare occasion the worst team in the playoffs win the cup or go to the finals. Its a strange hockey world sometimes.



I think those stats ton posted are interesting but they have to be presented along side other coaches stats if we want a real solid evidence or argument.

 

[Pez68]

You're delusional if you think that. The UC is not like Wrigley field. People will not continue to come if the team sucks. Those bandwagon idiots will disappear as soon as they appeared. All it takes is finishing low in the standings and missing the playoffs for those people to pull a "Hawks suck, **** this" and disappear.

or you could look at it as he has made the playoffs 92 percent of the time. Find me a coach with that sort of percentage.



Coaches with good teams lose in the playoffs. Its not some sort of low percentage. Even good old scotty bowman Mr greatest coach of all time lost with good teams. Even the oilers and pens lost with good teams.



Hell on a rare occasion the worst team in the playoffs win the cup or go to the finals. Its a strange hockey world sometimes.



I think those stats ton posted are interesting but they have to be presented along side other coaches stats if we want a real solid evidence or argument.

I really couldn't care less about his numbers. I look at the talent on the teams he coaches, and I see them underachieving, and repeating the same mistakes over and over throughout his career, and that's all I need to form my opinion.



Here's one stat I can get behind. Playoff win percentage: .526

 

[DBQHawkFan]

You're delusional if you think that. The UC is not like Wrigley field. People will not continue to come if the team sucks. Those bandwagon idiots will disappear as soon as they appeared. All it takes is finishing low in the standings and missing the playoffs for those people to pull a "Hawks suck, **** this" and disappear.

But I think that as long as they have the core, they will always be decent. Just not cup contenders unless they fill in around them properly. Which did not happen this year.

 

[R K]

The only way Rocky will get a clue is if it starts hitting him in the pocket book. I truly believe that now that he has the cup, that is all he cares about. Yet ticket prices are through the damn roof. And probably going up again next year. But they will have people buying them until they come up with a 1st line like Armason, Bell and Calder again. But that type of shit is going to wear on the core.....BIG TIME!!!!!

Ironic my ticket rep quit last week. The new one called today to introduce herself as my new rep and "remind" me the playoff invoice is due on Friday. She got an ear full. Don't think she expected that. **** them. Damn right I'm pissed for a multitude of reasons. Not even high on the list our inept GM that sat buy and did nothing to help this team yesterday. A team that has the talent to win, but needed help in 2 basic areas.



Top that off with they have raised priced 150-300% all over the building in four years. The could give a shit about the very few of us that supported the team previous to 4 years ago, and have basically screwed the experience IMO.

 

[inhoc83]

Bravo RK!

 

[Maiden]

Ironic my ticket rep quit last week. The new one called today to introduce herself as my new rep and "remind" me the playoff invoice is due on Friday. She got an ear full. Don't think she expected that. **** them. Damn right I'm pissed for a multitude of reasons. Not even high on the list our inept GM that sat buy and did nothing to help this team yesterday. A team that has the talent to win, but needed help in 2 basic areas.



Top that off with they have raised priced 150-300% all over the building in four years. The could give a shit about the very few of us that supported the team previous to 4 years ago, and have basically screwed the experience IMO.

My ticket rep in a totally different level also quit and the new one called to remind me of the playoff invoice.

The shine has worn off of that Cup won just 2 short years ago.

 

[EspoForever]

Frolik? Short term, low cap hit? We got him for 2 more years at $2.333 Million.

By big and long term I was thinking of Huet, Habby, Campbell or Augroin...etc.

2.33 for 2 more is not the end of the world.

 

[LordKOTL]

The only way Rocky will get a clue is if it starts hitting him in the pocket book. I truly believe that now that he has the cup, that is all he cares about. Yet ticket prices are through the damn roof. And probably going up again next year. But they will have people buying them until they come up with a 1st line like Armason, Bell and Calder again. But that type of shit is going to wear on the core.....BIG TIME!!!!!

That's what I mean. If Toews asks for a trade (or Kane asks for a trade), and they don't want to be resigned, it would spell doom. Unless we have another "face of the franchise", unlike the Cubs, people would not flock in droves for the blackhawks--hockey doesn't work like that. At that point it's not going to matter what McDoorknob does for marketing, attendance will fall. It will hit Rocky's pocketbook.



The question then would be if Rocky goes for loyalty, or the money.