Jeff Samardzija and Jason Hammel traded to Oakland Athletics for Addison Russell plus

[dreadpirateroberts]

If they trade with the Blue Jays, they will be looking to be getting Marcus Stroman and/or Aaron Sanchez with other prospects for compensation.

 

[chibears55]

http://www.bleachernation.com/2014/...-cubs-and-orioles-on-a-jeff-samardzija-trade/

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[Jntg4]

Give us Bundy, Gausman and the rights to the Nationals TV contracts (Orioles control it due to relocation terms) and we're good.

 

[brett05]

Micah Johnson to solve the 2b/Leadoff issue, plus Erik Johnson and one lower level spec. Deal?

 

[Sunbiz1]

Why would you trade away a proven product for prospects?...even good prospects are still prospects.

J.S still has plenty of gas left, only reason to not re-sign is the obvious...$$$.

And if that's the case, does not cutting a 5-6 year deal mean the Cubs truly believe it will take until 2020 to compete?.

 

[beckdawg]

Why would you trade away a proven product for prospects?...even good prospects are still prospects.

J.S still has plenty of gas left, only reason to not re-sign is the obvious...$$$.

And if that's the case, does not cutting a 5-6 year deal mean the Cubs truly believe it will take until 2020 to compete?.

I'm not a huge fan of them trading Shark but if you can't agree to terms with a player then that's what you do. If they were in a win now mode I suppose you could make the argument of just letting hims sweat it out until FA and take the comp. pick but that's not the case.

As for the O's, Bundy is hard to get a read on. He's only got around 100 IP in A, A+ and AA. His ERA was good and he's had a decent k/9 but his bb/9 has left something to be desired. Kevin Gausman is intriguing. His k/9 could be a tad higher but that's sort of nit picking. Best of all he's MLB ready or very very close. Hunter Harvey looks like he has pretty good stuff with a very nice k/9 though he could use some work on his bb/9. Eduardo Rodriguez looked good in the lower minors but in AA the past two years his numbers aren't that exciting. Overall, if they are trading shark to the O's any deal would have to start with Gausman. Then you're talking 1 if not 2 of these players or similar level players.

All that being said, I'm still not sure I'd trade Shark unless a team blows you away with something you can't turn down. Also, I have no sources here but I still feel like the Rockies should get involved if the cubs are seriously taking offers. They have 4 pitchers in the mid 3's in ERAs and a 5th starter platoon that's been pretty terrible. Shark's game should play well in Coors and the Rockies have a team that can really compete.

 

[SilenceS]

Trading Shark would be a huge mistake. You are lucky to get a pitcher with his durabilty and stuff. He has learned how to pitch not just throw. If the Cubs trade him, it would be a slap into the face to every fan. The Cubs have plenty of money to sign him. If the Reds can sign Homer Bailey, the Cubs can sign Shark.

 

[2323]

Trading Shark would be a huge mistake. You are lucky to get a pitcher with his durabilty and stuff. He has learned how to pitch not just throw. If the Cubs trade him, it would be a slap into the face to every fan. The Cubs have plenty of money to sign him. If the Reds can sign Homer Bailey, the Cubs can sign Shark.

Agreed. But part of me wonders if they're so hard wired to flip players because they've been doing it for so long.

 

[brett05]

Agreed. But part of me wonders if they're so hard wired to flip players because they've been doing it for so long.

If that is true this is the worst front office in the history of sports

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[beckdawg]

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/47833/surprising-marlins-should-go-for-samardzija

I really don't see this personally but meh.

 

[2323]

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/47833/surprising-marlins-should-go-for-samardzija

I really don't see this personally but meh.

One thing that's certain is that all of these speculative articles can only help the Cubs.

 

[brett05]

One thing that's certain is that all of these speculative articles can only help the Cubs.

How?

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[2323]

How?

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Does it really need explanation? Or was your question designed to get in a discussion where you claim GMs are oblivious to outside perception?

 

[CSF77]

Team needs:
TBJ:
After Buehrle at 9-1 the rotation has Dickey 5-4 3.95 and Hutchison 4-3 3.88. After that not much to speak about. They have a clear need.

NYY:
Kuroda 4-3 4.57, Tanaka 7-1 2.29 Sabathia 3-4 5.28 (not the same guy)

Nuno 2-3 4.43
Nova 2-2 8.27
Pineda 2-2 1.83

I'll bet Yanks win this sweepstakes.

What I would like to see:
Castro and Shark! Yep Yanks have a clear need at both going into 2015.

What they have:
Michael Pineda 25 YO. D.R. RHSP. 6'7" His fastball in 2011 averaged 94.7 miles per hour
Manny Banueos 5'10" LHSP 23 YO. AA right now. He is in his first year back from injury.

http://bleedingyankeeblue.blogspot....n=Feed:+blogspot/oWzDD+(Bleeding+Yankee+Blue)

They have the O's as the Fav

Now though, it's being reported that the Orioles may be in the "lead" for Jeff Samardzija. According to Bruce Levine as CBS Local, "...Orioles appear to be the leading team of interest in the sweepstakes for Cubs right-hander Jeff Samardzija, as sources confirmed the two teams are mutually interested...The Orioles have premium young pitching that the Cubs will insist on if they are going to move their ace. Right-handed pitchers Dylan Bundy, Kevin Gausman, Hunter Harvey and left-handed pitcher Eduardo Rodriguez top the list of young arms the Cubs are scouting."

Now if it becomes a 3 team race between the Yanks, O's and Jays.

That website said any deal would have to be centered around Manny Banuelos and Ian Clarkin.

O's Bundy (DL) and
Gausman AAA (gets up into the high 90's.)
Selected by the Orioles in the 1st round of the 2012 First Year Player Draft out of Louisiana State University, the third Orioles' 1st round pick out of LSU (Mike Fontenot 19th in 2001 and Ben McDonald 1st in 1989)…Signed by scout Dave Jennings… Graduated from Grandview HS (Centennial, CO)…Also drafted by the LA Dodgers in the 6th round of the 2010 First Year Player Draft, but did not sign.

 

[brett05]

Does it really need explanation? Or was your question designed to get in a discussion where you claim GMs are oblivious to outside perception?

Yes it needs explanation. You thinking any GM cares about a speculative article is hilarious but I asked simply, How?, just in case something is missed by the readers, myself included.

 

[X]

Trading Shark would be a huge mistake. You are lucky to get a pitcher with his durabilty and stuff. He has learned how to pitch not just throw. If the Cubs trade him, it would be a slap into the face to every fan. The Cubs have plenty of money to sign him. If the Reds can sign Homer Bailey, the Cubs can sign Shark.

Agreed. But part of me wonders if they're so hard wired to flip players because they've been doing it for so long.

You guys are seeing a LOT more out of Samardzija than I am. I'm all for trading him before his ERA gets back to 3.9.

 

[brett05]

You guys are seeing a LOT more out of Samardzija than I am. I'm all for trading him before his ERA gets back to 3.9.

X,

You know me, so take this for what it's worth.

Shark to me looks like he's learned to pitch. I see him getting hitters to swing at garbage and then paint a corner when it's needed. He's like a mix of power (Kerry Wood) and control (Maddux). I am really believing he has figured it out. Will he be a 4.00 era or a 2.00 era? I see a 3-3.3 guy in the NL. 3.75-4 in the AL. That's pretty solid.

 

[nwfisch]

[video=youtube;lTHCwU9rUdY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTHCwU9rUdY[/video]

My reaction the Cubs potentially trading Shark.

 

[SilenceS]

You guys are seeing a LOT more out of Samardzija than I am. I'm all for trading him before his ERA gets back to 3.9.

What are you seeing?

 

[Sunbiz1]

I'm not a huge fan of them trading Shark but if you can't agree to terms with a player then that's what you do. If they were in a win now mode I suppose you could make the argument of just letting hims sweat it out until FA and take the comp. pick but that's not the case.

As for the O's, Bundy is hard to get a read on. He's only got around 100 IP in A, A+ and AA. His ERA was good and he's had a decent k/9 but his bb/9 has left something to be desired. Kevin Gausman is intriguing. His k/9 could be a tad higher but that's sort of nit picking. Best of all he's MLB ready or very very close. Hunter Harvey looks like he has pretty good stuff with a very nice k/9 though he could use some work on his bb/9. Eduardo Rodriguez looked good in the lower minors but in AA the past two years his numbers aren't that exciting. Overall, if they are trading shark to the O's any deal would have to start with Gausman. Then you're talking 1 if not 2 of these players or similar level players.

All that being said, I'm still not sure I'd trade Shark unless a team blows you away with something you can't turn down. Also, I have no sources here but I still feel like the Rockies should get involved if the cubs are seriously taking offers. They have 4 pitchers in the mid 3's in ERAs and a 5th starter platoon that's been pretty terrible. Shark's game should play well in Coors and the Rockies have a team that can really compete.

I think he's gone, for several reasons.

The main one being he cannot help the Cubs for who knows how long. If you dole out a 6 year deal, and the team isn't set to compete for 3 or 4 more years...then it would seem half the $$ is being wasted. And does Shark really want to remain on a lousy team?...would guess not.