John Fox and the end of the game

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Well, THB, I just wanted an excuse to use the CUBSfailpalm today. You provided.
 
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Not trying to give him an excuse. He blew it, looked like an idiot, and then was insulting in his post game comments.

But that is going to happen.

You cannot judge John Fox simply on his weaknesses.
just one statement, if winning isn't the expected result, why be conservative?
 

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well again, if there is no expectation from this coaching staff, why run a conservative offense?

What is there to lose to open it up?

A loss is a loss is a loss.
 

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Lovie Smith did the same shit. Lovie Smith probably did worse, in fact, much larger body of work to **** up. I'd also rather have John Fox over the likes of say, Dave Wannstedt and Dick Jauron. and his Monday-Saturday coaching regimen certainly has to be better than taking a group picture in the locker room of mixed positions singing kumbaya together or whatever the **** Trestman had going on to procure Brandon Marshall into a locker room cancer again. but to each his own.

I really don't care about how shitty Lovie, Jauron, or Wannstedt were when discussing what Fox is doing with this team now. You guys fall back to this same tactic all the time... People criticize someone, bring up how shitty previous QBs or coaches were... as if we're supposed to give the current QB or coach a free pass because previous QB's or coaches were worse... NEWSFLASH - Just because Lovie Smith was terrible with challenges and clock management doesn't mean it's cool for Fox or the next coaching staff to suck at those things too.


in fact, every coach that loses, let's just call them conservative and stupid. we'll set aside the fact there has to be a loser, or make them a half loser if they tie.

Nobody is saying every coach that loses is conservative and stupid. People are merely criticizing (and rightfully so) the way Fox managed the game last Sunday. Is that not allowed on here? Is everyone supposed to just sweep it under the rug and act like he did a fantastic job on Sunday because he's such an amazing motivator Monday-Sat?

My main beef is I simply don't like conservative coaches that play not to lose and are more concerned with making sure they keep the game close and minimizing criticism over playing to win the damn game.

I mean what the ****, if Fox is this conservative now during a season with literally zero expectations and no real pressure to win how the **** worse is it going to get when there are actual expectations in the years to follow? Why the **** are you running it 3 times only needing 1 more first down to ice the game.. You're coaching a shit team that nobody expects to do anything, you have nothing to lose, play to win the damn game.


you loved Jay Cutler once, and I'll continue to throw it in your face.

LOL um ok, and I'll continue to not give 2 shit's? I'm really not sure why you continue to think this is some big egg on my face thing to bring up. Are people not allowed to change their opinions based on changes in data over time? I supported him for years, stated last year was a step up or step out year, he subsequently failed to step up and thus lost my support.. so what's the big deal exactly? Seems like a pretty straight forward chain of events, no? I still root for the guy to succeed on Sundays since he's still the QB for now, I just don't have any faith in him. What exactly is the problem?

this is a relative moot point though, disregarding he turned the ball over something like 8 times so far, he's not the reason they're losing games, SO WE HAVE THAT GOING FOR US RIGHT GUYS???

Yes, disregarding all his negative plays he's been great! LOL. What the **** kind of logic is this? Oh yes, my bad, disregarding all the coaching mistakes he made on Sunday, Fox wasn't a reason we lost that game... uh wut.. :bizarro::bizarro::bizarro:

the Seahawks got unbelievably lucky with their drafting. there's probably never going to be a team that ever pulls that off again, that's how insane it was. they're not all gonna stay with the team forever though, they can't pay everyone. I don't follow any other team outside the Bears

I stopped reading right that train-wreck of a paragraph right there. This explains a lot.

can we at least let the rest of the season play out before we call him a cotton-headed ninnymuggins?

No. Why do I have to wait for the entire season to play out to comment on something? When someone does dumb shit they are going to get called on it. We don't have to wait for the entire fucking season to play out before we comment on events that happen during a game. Should we shut down the entire CSS until the season finishes? Sorry boys, no one is allowed to comment on anything until the season is over! Give me a fucking break.
 

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You can say that again.

LOL the network at my work is being super weird today... took like 18 minutes for it to submit that post and clearly something went wrong as it submitted it like 80 times.
 

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The rest of the season will be fun learning the nuances of a 34 prevent defense.
 

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well again, if there is no expectation from this coaching staff, why run a conservative offense?

What is there to lose to open it up?

A loss is a loss is a loss.

Are you fucking for real? What is there to lose?

Remember when there was basically unanimous agreement around here that the less you ask Cutler to do, the better he is? Which this year has pretty much demonstrated so far?
 

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Well, THB, I just wanted an excuse to use the CUBSfailpalm today. You provided.
After you jumped into a conversation that wasn't directed towards you? You seem to be stalking me cause you were mad i disagreed with some of your game day posts. Funny how others called you names and insulted your football intelligence but i was polite in my disagreement. And then you show up in this thread, responding to another's post who was responding to me only to call me names and insults. I'm surprised you're a jesus fan because that's not what Jesus would do. And all this started on god's day. How christian of you.

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Are you fucking for real? What is there to lose?

Remember when there was basically unanimous agreement around here that the less you ask Cutler to do, the better he is? Which this year has pretty much demonstrated so far?

yep, what is there to lose?

Many on here wanted the bears to go 0-16. So what difference does how any player plays make if the ultimate goal is to lose every game? Can't say for sure you were one of those.
 

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yep, what is there to lose?

Many on here wanted the bears to go 0-16. So what difference does how any player plays make if the ultimate goal is to lose every game? Can't say for sure you were one of those.
The team.
 

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yep, what is there to lose?

Many on here wanted the bears to go 0-16. So what difference does how any player plays make if the ultimate goal is to lose every game? Can't say for sure you were one of those.

Nobody wanted that, they wanted 1-15
 

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The team.
well if there is to be a 50% turnover, then being conservative still doesn't make sense. See what kind of players you have. No need to run three straight up the middle for a two yard gain. Isn't logical.
 

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It was that you lose teams by trying to go 0-16. There is something to lose. If they stop trying, you don't even know who can play.
 

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It was that you lose teams by trying to go 0-16. There is something to lose. If they stop trying, you don't even know who can play.

how do you know who can play if you don't find out by running more difficult plays. Sorry, but your logic isn't lining up to the objective.

BTW, isn't conservative play calling basically not trying?
 

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